Have you flown UA/ANA to Bangkok?
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If you read the thread you would see my suggestion to go through Hong Kong, not NRT.
If you did some research the W fare on UA is about 1400 RT from lax to HK.
Only 3 hours of knee crush instead of 7, HK to BKK.
Also, if you knew about the route you can get an Emirates air Bus class seat for about $550 RT, HK BKK.
So for less than $2000, you are in bus. class the entire trip. That is if you qualify for global upgrades.
If you think CX prem econ. for over 2k is worth it, then go for it.
If you did some research the W fare on UA is about 1400 RT from lax to HK.
Only 3 hours of knee crush instead of 7, HK to BKK.
Also, if you knew about the route you can get an Emirates air Bus class seat for about $550 RT, HK BKK.
So for less than $2000, you are in bus. class the entire trip. That is if you qualify for global upgrades.
If you think CX prem econ. for over 2k is worth it, then go for it.
PG works well to USM. I have been using them to get to USM direct from HKG.
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However, NH did not specify which intra-asia route will get the reconfig 787. And if the Y loads are sufficient, NH may just continue to use the intra-Asian 772 instead, given the intra-asia 772 has 271 seats in Y and intra-asia 787 only has 198 seats, that is almost a 100 seats difference.
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I just did some checking on a random date for SFO-BKK. UA gave me W class to HND and then onwards to BKK on the NH 787 for $1691 Round Trip. Eva Air has their Evergreen Deluxe class available for $1849 all the way through SFO-TPE-BKK. Cathay is available in Premium Economy for $2150 all the way SFO-HKG-BKK (all in PE even HKG-BKK).
There is no valid comparison between UA E+ and these real premium economy products. Real premium economy products are comparable to UA domestic first class.
If you're willing to risk it, you can even fly Philippine Airlines for $3000 in business class the whole way, although I'd take a pass on this.
There is no valid comparison between UA E+ and these real premium economy products. Real premium economy products are comparable to UA domestic first class.
If you're willing to risk it, you can even fly Philippine Airlines for $3000 in business class the whole way, although I'd take a pass on this.
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If you read the thread you would see my suggestion to go through Hong Kong, not NRT.
If you did some research the W fare on UA is about 1400 RT from lax to HK.
Only 3 hours of knee crush instead of 7, HK to BKK.
Also, if you knew about the route you can get an Emirates air Bus class seat for about $550 RT, HK BKK.
So for less than $2000, you are in bus. class the entire trip. That is if you qualify for global upgrades.
If you think CX prem econ. for over 2k is worth it, then go for it.
If you did some research the W fare on UA is about 1400 RT from lax to HK.
Only 3 hours of knee crush instead of 7, HK to BKK.
Also, if you knew about the route you can get an Emirates air Bus class seat for about $550 RT, HK BKK.
So for less than $2000, you are in bus. class the entire trip. That is if you qualify for global upgrades.
If you think CX prem econ. for over 2k is worth it, then go for it.
I will check out Emirates and hope to find that Bus Class seat for $550 RT HKG-BKK.
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However, NH did not specify which intra-asia route will get the reconfig 787. And if the Y loads are sufficient, NH may just continue to use the intra-Asian 772 instead, given the intra-asia 772 has 271 seats in Y and intra-asia 787 only has 198 seats, that is almost a 100 seats difference.
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If you read the thread you would see my suggestion to go through Hong Kong, not NRT.
If you did some research the W fare on UA is about 1400 RT from lax to HK.
Only 3 hours of knee crush instead of 7, HK to BKK.
Also, if you knew about the route you can get an Emirates air Bus class seat for about $550 RT, HK BKK.
So for less than $2000, you are in bus. class the entire trip. That is if you qualify for global upgrades.
If you think CX prem econ. for over 2k is worth it, then go for it.
If you did some research the W fare on UA is about 1400 RT from lax to HK.
Only 3 hours of knee crush instead of 7, HK to BKK.
Also, if you knew about the route you can get an Emirates air Bus class seat for about $550 RT, HK BKK.
So for less than $2000, you are in bus. class the entire trip. That is if you qualify for global upgrades.
If you think CX prem econ. for over 2k is worth it, then go for it.
For the trip to BKK, I can connect to the Emirates flight with just under 2 hours of connection time. Risky. The fare rules for the ~$500 business class fare do not appear to permit free changes and doesn't appear to be fully refundable. (Note: I am a novice at reading fare rules so would love to be corrected if I am in error). The one-way fare is also ~$500.
For the trip back to the USA, the Emirates flight doesn't arrive in HKG until 1730 hours. The UA flights (EWR,ORD) both depart HKG by 1200.
Are you assuming a night of layover in HKG when trying this?
Considering everything, this does not seem to be a very realistic option...at least for me.
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The problem is that UA will only sell that through-fare to BKK with a CX Y, so the fare jumps all the way to $2468 if you want to do it on a single ticket. Which kind of forces separate tickets, and that raises a whole different set of issues (discussed upthread).
Sorry you seem to be so confused about the point of this thread
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Actually, I'm flying a $1313 W fare SFO-HKG at the end of Jan.
The problem is that UA will only sell that through-fare to BKK with a CX Y, so the fare jumps all the way to $2468 if you want to do it on a single ticket. Which kind of forces separate tickets, and that raises a whole different set of issues (discussed upthread).
Sorry you seem to be so confused about the point of this thread
The problem is that UA will only sell that through-fare to BKK with a CX Y, so the fare jumps all the way to $2468 if you want to do it on a single ticket. Which kind of forces separate tickets, and that raises a whole different set of issues (discussed upthread).
Sorry you seem to be so confused about the point of this thread
Good luck with your flight!
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First everyone whines about how bad UA is. Avoid US airlines. Asian airlines are the best. NH is a five star airline.
Now everyone laments the loss of the UA 747 that they still trash in countless other threads, and NH is a airline to be avoided
I'll never understand flyertalk logic
Now everyone laments the loss of the UA 747 that they still trash in countless other threads, and NH is a airline to be avoided
I'll never understand flyertalk logic
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I just did some checking on a random date for SFO-BKK. UA gave me W class to HND and then onwards to BKK on the NH 787 for $1691 Round Trip. Eva Air has their Evergreen Deluxe class available for $1849 all the way through SFO-TPE-BKK. Cathay is available in Premium Economy for $2150 all the way SFO-HKG-BKK (all in PE even HKG-BKK).
There is no valid comparison between UA E+ and these real premium economy products. Real premium economy products are comparable to UA domestic first class.
If you're willing to risk it, you can even fly Philippine Airlines for $3000 in business class the whole way, although I'd take a pass on this.
There is no valid comparison between UA E+ and these real premium economy products. Real premium economy products are comparable to UA domestic first class.
If you're willing to risk it, you can even fly Philippine Airlines for $3000 in business class the whole way, although I'd take a pass on this.
Also even with CX's long haul premium economy, other than the seat itself, basically you are getting what Y used to have, like ice-cream and amenity kit, metal cutlery, etc. So it is basically CX downgraded its own Y product and put it in premium economy instead, nothing really upgraded except the seat. It is far from even UA domestic F !
If you talk about "real" premium economy products, I would say only BR and NZ can classify as one, when TK got the best premium economy.
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we're getting off topic
No idea, but it will still suck in Y unless you're able to score an exit row.
If one is willing to pay for J, there are lots of good options to BKK. The problem that gives rise to this endless discussion is trying to use a GPU TPAC on a single UA ticket without getting stuck in Y on NH for 7 hours.
While there are lots of theoretical connection points to various Asian carriers (TPE, ICN, etc.), the reality is that UA is funneling this business to NH via NRT with its through-fare pricing of the W. If you want to pay less than $2K, that's basically the only option.
If one is willing to pay for J, there are lots of good options to BKK. The problem that gives rise to this endless discussion is trying to use a GPU TPAC on a single UA ticket without getting stuck in Y on NH for 7 hours.
While there are lots of theoretical connection points to various Asian carriers (TPE, ICN, etc.), the reality is that UA is funneling this business to NH via NRT with its through-fare pricing of the W. If you want to pay less than $2K, that's basically the only option.
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First everyone whines about how bad UA is. Avoid US airlines. Asian airlines are the best. NH is a five star airline.
Now everyone laments the loss of the UA 747 that they still trash in countless other threads, and NH is a airline to be avoided
I'll never understand flyertalk logic
Now everyone laments the loss of the UA 747 that they still trash in countless other threads, and NH is a airline to be avoided
I'll never understand flyertalk logic
I have never had a bad experience in NH economy. In fact, economy seats on one configuration of the 787 the pitch is 33-34 inches which is essentially Y+. (Not flown on intra-Asian routes but worth mentioning.) Yes, the other configs are comparable to Y-, but if I'm getting the far better service of ANA I can get over that. (I'm 5'11" by the way)
And someone earlier mentioned how the food isn't good, which surprised me since I've always thought it very satisfying.