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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:21 am
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This is the archive thread, the active thread is Lufthansa GPUs Go Electronic (How to use, will it clear?, issues w/flight credit,...)

For general information on upgrading ANA or Lufthansa flights with a GPU, see Upgrading Flights Operated by ANA or Lufthansa. You actually request the upgrade through the online form, here: Request a GPU for a Select Partner Airline.

Per United web support, you only need to fill in the required* info.

**The LH flight you are upgrading must be an LH flight, not a UA codeshare flight. If you have a UA codeshare flight, you can call websupport and they will (put you on hold and] change your itinerary to one with an LH flight#.

Note that UA websupport might give you a new ticket # when you do the above, but if the original ticket # was 016 UA stock, it will remain so, and thus you will still be earning RDMs at the UA rate (11x for a 1K), not the *A rate. In case of a $6000 biz fare for LAX-FRA that you are trying to upgrade to F for example, as a 1K you would earn 66,000 UA RDM if booked as a UA flight. And even though after booking you get them to change the UA flight # from a UA codeshare flight to an LH flight, the 016 ticket stock sticks, and you earn 66,000 RDMs.

(FYI, had the ticket stock been an LH stock, the RDM's earned would be 5790 miles x 150% = 8685 RDMs. Big difference)

Note that sometimes the online upgrading does not work, and you may get an error message to call an 877 number, which is now defunct but still resides on .bomb...Ignore it and just call web support. They might put you on hold while they call LH but they will get the job done.

Eligible Economy Fares to Apply a GPU

Upgradeable to business fares include U/H/Q the lowest eligible economy fares. G&E the two top premium economy fares and Y/B/M the most expensive economy fares. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24219165-post205.html)
While UA has not changed their T&Cs, LH appears to have expanded the potential fare classes
Originally Posted by oliver2002
For C->F upgrade, J, D, C fares are eligible, Z and P fares are not.
Originally Posted by andywaw
Effective April 20th, 2018, all Lufthansa revenue Business Class fares, including P and Z, are eligible to be upgraded to First Class using miles or eVouchers. ...
LH booking class P, Z upgreadable for miles and eVouchers
Appears this also applies to use of UA GPUs IF booked as native flight number on LH or UA ticket stock.
Presently UA is not converting codeshare to native flight numbers, as required for this process, if P or Z fare
From April to September 2018 it was possible to confirm and waitlist P ,Z-class LH flights with a GPU. Confirming and waitlisting is no now longer possible, but previously waitlisted segments will continue to clear as/if available.

Checking for Upgrade Availability

Upgrades to E, C and F come from the N, I and O fare bucket, but its a subset, which theoretically is not the same as the award subset. If awards are available it is a strong indication the upgrade is available too. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24861289-post342.html)

In case of upgrade clearing but eticket refresh problems:

Originally Posted by oliver2002
Both longhaul LH segments cleared into I after being on waitlist . The first didnt get stickered, so the DCS ( amadeus altea ) rejected online and agent checkin . The eticket helpdesk had to manually update the first coupon for the DCS to accept the coupon. My seat in C was safe, since the PNR was updated correctly, just the ticket was not updated completely to the satisfaction of the DCS. Everyone looking at the booking agreed the upgrade was legit, so you will not be denied boarding or downgraded, just budget enough time
Originally Posted by oliver2002
The LH GA must have called the eticket helpdesk and pointed out the * SSR remark in your reservation that shows an upgrade was applied and the e-ticket just needed a fix/sticker. See my experience above.
Checking for availability prior to calling
Originally Posted by oliver2002
Upgrades to E, C and F come from the N, I and O fare bucket, but its a subset, which theoretically is not the same as the award subset. If awards are available it is a strong indication the upgrade is available too.
Use ANA or even united.com to see availability.

To check if C/F upgrades may open up, ask in this thread: Determining LH Y/C/F loads? [the help me guesstimate loads thread]

Regarding ticket stock, Oliver reports:
Originally Posted by oliver2002
Any ticket stock will do.
Each LH flight segment requires a separate GPU
A single GPU can be used to only upgrade a single LH flight segment, And that GPU cannot be extended to include another LH flight segment or another UA flight segment.


Problems getting mileage credit for upgraded LH segments

Numerous reports of denial of mileage credits (RDMs, PQMs, PQSs, PQDs) for upgraded tickets. This issue is probably due to LH uses the same fare bucket for mileage awards and upgrades. It seems patience, persistence, and documentation of the originally paid fare are needed to get credit.

You probably won't get credit by simply submitting the online form or asking a CSR to do so for you. A CSR needs to submit a System Issue Form, together with the mileage request, explaining that you flew in I class, but you paid for a mileage-earning booking class.

T-10

While the original system did not allow the upgrade waitlist to carry on past t-10 hours, the have been multiple reports that this is no longer the case. If not cleared in advance - the upgrade wait-list will last all the way until the door closing. UA has not updated the text on the LH GPU upgrades to reflect this change.

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Old Aug 16, 2018, 6:47 pm
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I am trying to upgrade LH (EWR-FRA on 9/15) and FRA-EWR on 9/22). I am in paid Premium Economy (~$2,800). When I try to upgrade, I get "Upgrade Not available"on each flight. Is there a way to put myself on a list for an upgrade to Business Class using the UA website. I can't understand the process. Thanks.
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Old Aug 16, 2018, 7:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
I am trying to upgrade LH (EWR-FRA on 9/15) and FRA-EWR on 9/22). I am in paid Premium Economy (~$2,800). When I try to upgrade, I get "Upgrade Not available"on each flight. Is there a way to put myself on a list for an upgrade to Business Class using the UA website. I can't understand the process. Thanks.
What is your LH Premium Economy fare class? G & E are eligible for GPU use but N is not.

Are you using Global Premier Upgrade on ANA or Lufthansa request page ?
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Old Aug 16, 2018, 9:39 pm
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I have no GPU. Just trying to upgrade with United miles. Booked in "E" class.

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Old Aug 16, 2018, 9:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
I have no GPU. Just tryingt to upgrade with United miles. Booked in "E" class.
That's a different thread
How to upgrade with UA miles on Star Alliance carriers (see thread's wiki for details)
LH E is upgradeable with UA miles but there is no waitlisting (so if no upgrade space, the request fails) and has its own website Request a Star Alliance Upgrade Award.
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Old Aug 17, 2018, 6:14 am
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Thank you. I guess I'll just have to keep visiting that site frequently
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Old Aug 17, 2018, 10:00 am
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Cleared both directions for ORD-FRA on the 747 1st cabin!!!!! Typing from seat 1k as we speak!
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Old Aug 17, 2018, 10:59 am
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The old segment is gone and I flew to Bahrain today without incident - fingers crossed for LH first class.... FWIW UA site still shows ticket out of sync.....
Quick update - checked in on LH site and have been confirmed in F for flight from BAH to FRA - hopefully airport experience (heading there soon) is smooth. FWIW my ticket still shows out of Sync on UA website.... Glad the agent I called knew not to touch it....
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Old Aug 18, 2018, 3:16 am
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Originally Posted by Supima
Quick update - checked in on LH site and have been confirmed in F for flight from BAH to FRA - hopefully airport experience (heading there soon) is smooth. FWIW my ticket still shows out of Sync on UA website.... Glad the agent I called knew not to touch it....
Now in FRA for delayed UA961 flight home. No issues at airport at all - in fact the only issue was that LH didn’t transfer my mileage plus number to UA so had to have UA re-add here to get proper credit - wonder what will happen with the mileage credit for LH637.....
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Old Aug 27, 2018, 1:39 pm
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Hey guys, looking for some clarity on what is actually going on with fare codes...

About a month ago a friend retired from my company noted they were flying to Europe on Lufthansa at the end of August. I said I could try to upgrade them on the United site if they sent me their confirmation code. I tried the upgrade site and it placed them on the wait list.

Today I got a notice that said their upgrade was confirmed. In so doing I saw the original fare code and it said it was Lufthansa T. I know P and Z are now upgradeable, but I thought lower economy was not upgradeable to business.

Does anyone know what is going on here? Danke
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Old Aug 27, 2018, 3:50 pm
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Originally Posted by HAudidoody
Hey guys, looking for some clarity on what is actually going on with fare codes...

About a month ago a friend retired from my company noted they were flying to Europe on Lufthansa at the end of August. I said I could try to upgrade them on the United site if they sent me their confirmation code. I tried the upgrade site and it placed them on the wait list.

Today I got a notice that said their upgrade was confirmed. In so doing I saw the original fare code and it said it was Lufthansa T. I know P and Z are now upgradeable, but I thought lower economy was not upgradeable to business.

Does anyone know what is going on here? Danke
Maybe backend fare code / fare class was different from UA's point of view? As in while usually they translate 1:1 with a few airlines like TAP I've had fares translate into all sorts of things when it actually hit my mileage account. Alternatively, maybe glitch in the IT system and you got lucky? hehe
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Old Aug 28, 2018, 12:45 am
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LH recently opened up all revenue fare classes for upgrades with evouchers... the GPU seems to work too...
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Old Aug 28, 2018, 1:19 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
LH recently opened up all revenue fare classes for upgrades with evouchers... the GPU seems to work too...
Yup. Can confirm just booked a flight that’s 2 months out, Z class instantly cleared. Cabin was F8 though ... maybe explains why. Hope it stays that way
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Old Aug 28, 2018, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
LH recently opened up all revenue fare classes for upgrades with evouchers... the GPU seems to work too...
From Economy also?
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Old Aug 29, 2018, 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
LH recently opened up all revenue fare classes for upgrades with evouchers... the GPU seems to work too...
From economy lite too? T fare class? Even though it explicitly says it is non-upgradeable
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Old Aug 29, 2018, 8:34 am
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Originally Posted by azfanboy
From economy lite too? T fare class? Even though it explicitly says it is non-upgradeable
There's no way that an Economy Light fare would be upgradeable with a GPU. Whatever change they've made would not apply to Light fares. However, you can't tell whether or not a fare is Light just from the fare class itself; there are Light T and Regular T fares.
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