Dec 28, 2014, 12:27 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
If a partner option will not show on united.com for a paid booking {likely a lack of codeshare}, see if it will show as a award booking. Award booking usually provide an option to purchase for $$$.
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Feb 15, 2015, 12:20 pm
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Sure you can do both.
For PQM: buy a ticket in a booking class that qualifies for PQM based on the UA MP partner charts.
For PQD: buy a ticket in a booking class that qualifies for RDM (from the same chart above) and is issued on UA's 016 stock.
For PQM: buy a ticket in a booking class that qualifies for PQM based on the UA MP partner charts.
For PQD: buy a ticket in a booking class that qualifies for RDM (from the same chart above) and is issued on UA's 016 stock.
Feb 15, 2015, 2:03 pm
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Jul 21, 2019, 10:01 am
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That's always been the case for non-UA partners. Didn't earn any PQD, PQM, or PQS on some itineraries including a LATAM flight.
Jul 21, 2019, 1:30 pm
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Basically if I fly XXX-MEX-VER with MEX-VER on Aeromar, I earned miles and PQM, If I flew VER-MEX-XXX with VER-MEX on Aeromar - I earned only miles
Also, sometime it was miles flown and sometimes it was fare amt x 11 - all on 016 ticket stock
Wasn't enough miles to continue to waste my time calling, so I gave up.
Jul 21, 2019, 2:58 pm
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Except they are listed as partners and out of roughly 10 flights, some have earned PQM and miles, some haven't and none have earned PQD - I can't get a common answer from mileage plus service center as well
Basically if I fly XXX-MEX-VER with MEX-VER on Aeromar, I earned miles and PQM, If I flew VER-MEX-XXX with VER-MEX on Aeromar - I earned only miles
Also, sometime it was miles flown and sometimes it was fare amt x 11 - all on 016 ticket stock
Wasn't enough miles to continue to waste my time calling, so I gave up.
Basically if I fly XXX-MEX-VER with MEX-VER on Aeromar, I earned miles and PQM, If I flew VER-MEX-XXX with VER-MEX on Aeromar - I earned only miles
Also, sometime it was miles flown and sometimes it was fare amt x 11 - all on 016 ticket stock
Wasn't enough miles to continue to waste my time calling, so I gave up.
Jul 21, 2019, 4:04 pm
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Except they are listed as partners and out of roughly 10 flights, some have earned PQM and miles, some haven't and none have earned PQD - I can't get a common answer from mileage plus service center as well
Basically if I fly XXX-MEX-VER with MEX-VER on Aeromar, I earned miles and PQM, If I flew VER-MEX-XXX with VER-MEX on Aeromar - I earned only miles
Also, sometime it was miles flown and sometimes it was fare amt x 11 - all on 016 ticket stock
Wasn't enough miles to continue to waste my time calling, so I gave up.
Basically if I fly XXX-MEX-VER with MEX-VER on Aeromar, I earned miles and PQM, If I flew VER-MEX-XXX with VER-MEX on Aeromar - I earned only miles
Also, sometime it was miles flown and sometimes it was fare amt x 11 - all on 016 ticket stock
Wasn't enough miles to continue to waste my time calling, so I gave up.
I would say that the intent was not to provide PQDs, but that somebody couldn't figure out how to code that and still do fare-based accrual.
Jul 21, 2019, 5:19 pm
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Did it earn RDM based on distance? That would be odd. Non-earning fare class will not earn anything. Guess it might be the same with Amtrak on 016 ticket, does not earn PQD even on a 016 ticket ... but you said you earned PQD before so my best guess is that the mapped booking class is not eligible.
If you click through to the Aeromar page, you'll find that there is no mention of premier qualification at all, but it does have the 016 vs non-016 breakdown. The only place "PQD" appears is in footnote 1, where it mentions that you won't earn PQD for the taxes.
I would say that the intent was not to provide PQDs, but that somebody couldn't figure out how to code that and still do fare-based accrual.
I would say that the intent was not to provide PQDs, but that somebody couldn't figure out how to code that and still do fare-based accrual.
I never earned or ever expected to earn PQD
I earned PQM when they weren't the first carrier of the trip
BACK to why i made the statement - if you look above several people said "If it is 016 stock, you earn PQD" I was merely pointing out that is not always true - and it isn't
I NEVER thought i SHOULD earn it, I was merely stating I didn't and it was 016 ticket stock
PQM have been hit or miss as well as miles have been miles based and fare based - so VoV
AFAIK - Miles is the ONLY thing I should actually get from that segment
Jul 21, 2019, 6:04 pm
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It has never been the case all 016 tickets earn PQD. Only 016 tickets, however, as well as UA segments booked on other stock crediting to UA, earn PQD. And they need to be in an earning fare class - some don’t earn any mileage or PQD.
If you click through to the Aeromar page, you'll find that there is no mention of premier qualification at all, but it does have the 016 vs non-016 breakdown. The only place "PQD" appears is in footnote 1, where it mentions that you won't earn PQD for the taxes.
I would say that the intent was not to provide PQDs, but that somebody couldn't figure out how to code that and still do fare-based accrual.
I would say that the intent was not to provide PQDs, but that somebody couldn't figure out how to code that and still do fare-based accrual.
As to how they are credited, according to Aeromar page, they are supposed to be credited by fare (which in itself is a bit odd). So if you got credited more when they credited by distance, again be lucky. If you got less, I’d call and ask to have it re-done properly.
Jul 21, 2019, 6:08 pm
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Aeromar is a mileageplus partner and it was an 016 ticket
However if it was a non-mileage earning fare class on VW, then no.
Non-mileage earn fare classes on VW are
No mileage credit A, C, D, E, F, I, J, L, O, P, R, U, X
Why? You have to dig deep for this one, Additional Conditions
If a partner flight is not eligible to earn award miles, then it is also not eligible to earn Premier qualifying miles, segments or dollars.
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Jul 21, 2019, 6:27 pm
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OK, this is getting out of hand and now the posts have been moved and it is taken out of context....
Previously in a different thread.....
Someone ELSE - made a statement
All 016 ticket stock flights earn PQD
I was simply refuting that claim and now everyone seems to think i didn't know it was going to happen
What i didn't expect was the PQM, which i received (and shouldn't have and Mileage plus can't seem to figure out why)
Also, i should have been credited miles (like sky pesos - but for UA - just regular old miles to buy tickets with miles) were sometimes credited (incorrectly) due to flight distance - sometimes by fare paid x 11 - again, no one at mileage plus can figure out why
So - one more time -
PQD were not expected
PQD were not earned
ticket was 016 - not ALL 016 ticket stock earns PQD - which someone on a different thread was saying - but now that the posts are moved it doesn't much matter as this thread seems to be all about the fact that the system works as advertised
Previously in a different thread.....
Someone ELSE - made a statement
All 016 ticket stock flights earn PQD
I was simply refuting that claim and now everyone seems to think i didn't know it was going to happen
What i didn't expect was the PQM, which i received (and shouldn't have and Mileage plus can't seem to figure out why)
Also, i should have been credited miles (like sky pesos - but for UA - just regular old miles to buy tickets with miles) were sometimes credited (incorrectly) due to flight distance - sometimes by fare paid x 11 - again, no one at mileage plus can figure out why
So - one more time -
PQD were not expected
PQD were not earned
ticket was 016 - not ALL 016 ticket stock earns PQD - which someone on a different thread was saying - but now that the posts are moved it doesn't much matter as this thread seems to be all about the fact that the system works as advertised
Jul 21, 2019, 6:33 pm
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This is likely why you see varying results. VW just happens have many non-mileage earning fares.
Jul 21, 2019, 6:43 pm
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Aeromar is not *A, so shouldn’t earn PQ-anything. Only *A flights earn PQM (and PQD if booked on UA stock). AC, I believe, used to have (and maybe still does) some non * partners that earned elite qualifying if booked on the AC codeshare flight number - I think Jet Airways might have been one. But i don’t think UA has non-* partners that earn like that.
It has never been the case all 016 tickets earn PQD. Only 016 tickets, however, as well as UA segments booked on other stock crediting to UA, earn PQD. And they need to be in an earning fare class - some don’t earn any mileage or PQD.
Fares that book into earning booking classes on 016 will always earn PQD, e.g. on HA inter-island flights.
Jul 21, 2019, 10:42 pm
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Right, but for a 016 ticket - all VW fares should earn miles via the typical fare class x modifier formula (11 in my case as a 1K)
It is the non 016 fares that earn either 100%, 75%, 50% or 0% of distance flown in miles
VW doesn't have a fare class that earns PQD or PQM on any ticket stock for UA