United Charter's 747 (N194UA) Hull Punctured in July Airport Mishap
Aug 18, 2014, 2:57 pm
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Slim line seating doesn't exist in ANY UA widebodies. And no, it is not 100% Y, the nose number is 8194, 81xx are OB config with F/C/Y.
When someone charter the entire plane, it doesn't matter what kind of seating it is, or if the whole plane is full, as someone paid in full. Similarly, years ago TZ use to have a L1011 in all business class, it was used as charter almost exclusively. I suspect UA pick up some of the military charter left from TZ. (TZ was the old ATA, don't confuse with Scoot - a low cost starter by SQ, as Scoot is now using the TZ code)
UA own it, and that's why this plane actually had been to the desert twice and UA can still reactivate it.
When someone charter the entire plane, it doesn't matter what kind of seating it is, or if the whole plane is full, as someone paid in full. Similarly, years ago TZ use to have a L1011 in all business class, it was used as charter almost exclusively. I suspect UA pick up some of the military charter left from TZ. (TZ was the old ATA, don't confuse with Scoot - a low cost starter by SQ, as Scoot is now using the TZ code)
UA own it, and that's why this plane actually had been to the desert twice and UA can still reactivate it.
Aug 18, 2014, 3:52 pm
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744 has OA, OB, and OP, with OC is the current IPTE config.
OA - F18 C80 Y320
OB - F18 C84 Y270 (later become F14 C73 Y+88 Y172)
OC - F12 C52 Y+70 Y240
OP - F36 C123 Y142
742 has YR and YJ.
YR - F18 C79 Y272
YJ - F35 C109 Y124
OA and OP phased out when it starts to install E+, OP usually only flew ORD-NRT and SFO-HKG. My very first UA flight was on a OP flying ORD-NRT, and because of high number of C class, I got op up from Y to C.
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Aug 18, 2014, 4:03 pm
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That makes me sad; N195UA was the aircraft on which I flew LAX-HKG back in 1998 on UA1; my one and only landing at Kai Tak.
Aug 18, 2014, 5:16 pm
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Aug 19, 2014, 8:17 am
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Just kind of amused to see this thread. One of my longest delays occurred when N194UA had an engine struck by some sort of a ramp vehicle when it was doing the domestic ORD-SFO turns. Big wait in ORD, but I got some nice compensation and a nice upper deck lie-flat in the new config subbed in.
Seems like people just like to drive things into this plane.
Seems like people just like to drive things into this plane.
Aug 19, 2014, 9:52 am
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Please don't share the photos. 
How much is the lease on the AC, or does UA own it? I see the plane was used to move military around. Why on a 747? Fuel guzzler. I guess tax payers don't mind. Who gets to sit in the upper deck? Officers and Generals?
Did the person that caused the damage get fired or promoted to safety supervisor for UA? As ESPN would say... Come on man!
How much is the lease on the AC, or does UA own it? I see the plane was used to move military around. Why on a 747? Fuel guzzler. I guess tax payers don't mind. Who gets to sit in the upper deck? Officers and Generals?Did the person that caused the damage get fired or promoted to safety supervisor for UA? As ESPN would say... Come on man!
Aug 19, 2014, 10:10 am
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Aug 19, 2014, 10:12 am
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Back then PMUA had multiple 744 configs, so did 742 too.
744 has OA, OB, and OP, with OC is the current IPTE config.
OA - F18 C80 Y320
OB - F18 C84 Y270 (later become F14 C73 Y+88 Y172)
OC - F12 C52 Y+70 Y240
OP - F36 C123 Y142
742 has YR and YJ.
YR - F18 C79 Y272
YJ - F35 C109 Y124
OA and OP phased out when it starts to install E+, OP usually only flew ORD-NRT and SFO-HKG. My very first UA flight was on a OP flying ORD-NRT, and because of high number of C class, I got op up from Y to C.
744 has OA, OB, and OP, with OC is the current IPTE config.
OA - F18 C80 Y320
OB - F18 C84 Y270 (later become F14 C73 Y+88 Y172)
OC - F12 C52 Y+70 Y240
OP - F36 C123 Y142
742 has YR and YJ.
YR - F18 C79 Y272
YJ - F35 C109 Y124
OA and OP phased out when it starts to install E+, OP usually only flew ORD-NRT and SFO-HKG. My very first UA flight was on a OP flying ORD-NRT, and because of high number of C class, I got op up from Y to C.
Aug 19, 2014, 10:13 am
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But as far as fastair releasing his.... I would rather he not have to go through a corrective action from management.
Do you have the a link to them? Not that I don't believe you, I want to see them. (I searched a boat load of phrases to find them, and came up empty. As N195UA holds a special place in my heart as it was my one and only intl op-up).
Aug 19, 2014, 11:17 am
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Aug 19, 2014, 11:45 am
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Aug 19, 2014, 12:14 pm
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Much like airbus did to pmUA.... pmUA was an all Boeing fleet.... Airbus came and gave them a deal they could not refuse.
Not saying it is likely.... just saying it could be a factor.
Aug 19, 2014, 2:21 pm
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While I agree it does indeed fly in the face of the plan in place, the only wild card is that Boeing is super duper hungry to sell some 748's (IIRC, there are about 50 orders, and about 1/2 have been delivered). I also seem to recall they *could* produce 2 a month, so that leaves a hole starting 2 years from now.
Much like airbus did to pmUA.... pmUA was an all Boeing fleet.... Airbus came and gave them a deal they could not refuse.
Not saying it is likely.... just saying it could be a factor.
Much like airbus did to pmUA.... pmUA was an all Boeing fleet.... Airbus came and gave them a deal they could not refuse.
Not saying it is likely.... just saying it could be a factor.