24% 1K CPU rate (SFO-based) typical?
My assumption is that a CPU rate of only 24% (7 of 29 flights YTD) is below average for a 1K, yes? Weekly commuter (4 legs each week) SFO-hub-spoke on 'average' fares (sometimes cheapie, sometimes mid-range .. never M/B/Y).
ExPlat friends on AA on the same routings and fares (usually cheaper actually) have averaged 80%. |
Yes, that is typical for a 1K. AA and DL are known to have much better upgrade rates.
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There is no typical -- it is highly dependent on routings, times, .... We have insufficient data for an average and that also would be meaningless since the variation is large and not applicable / useful to individual 1Ks.
For instance, some folk do regular routes, some do irregular, non-repeative routes. Data for CLE-EWR is not useful for SFO-LAX. As SFO-ORD is not useful for EWR-IAH. |
Originally Posted by amartin1979
(Post 23103160)
Yes, that is typical for a 1K. AA and DL are known to have much better upgrade rates.
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I was 3/22 last year as 1K in SFO. Mostly peak time SFO-AUS and similar flights. Mostly cr7 and a319s, so limited upgrade room anyway. But yeah, I consider even your numbers to be unusually low. Mine were insanely low.
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Originally Posted by amartin1979
(Post 23103160)
Yes, that is typical for a 1K. AA and DL are known to have much better upgrade rates.
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1K ex-SFO is usually bad without instrument (RPU/miles) or M-UP fare. I never transit SFO without supporting my upgrade effort with an instrument into R space that is open at booking. There are simply too many global service in SFO.
If you are able to transit LAX on a connection your numbers will look a lot better. DEN is going to many RJs with little or no F cabin, and IAH is also tricky at times (but worlds better than SFO). Last year starting as Gold and ending at 1K I batted about 60%, flying mostly TCON itineraries with connections in ORD or LAX and occasionally IAH. This year I have not flown enough UA to say, but I expect my UG% would be lower than 50% based on the length of the waitlists and sizes of group 1 that I see in my very limited UA flying. |
Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
(Post 23103199)
Please provide actual data for all, please. We're all interested in the data you apparently have access to. I'm north of 80%, originating out of Hawaii.
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Originating ex-YVR and flying irregular itineraries at irregular times, I'm at about 70% CPUs this year. I've had very good luck on YVR-SFO and YVR-DEN, less success YVR-ORD, and no luck on YVR-IAH legs.
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Originally Posted by amartin1979
(Post 23103225)
I'm referring to my own experience as a SFO-based 1K. I get upgraded about 1 out of every 4 flights over the last two years. This does not include instrument supported upgrades.
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Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
(Post 23103235)
Then don't reply as if that is typical for all 1Ks. It is not. Your reply - "Yes, that is typical for a 1K" - is totally bogus. If you are referring to your own experience, then say so.
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Originally Posted by amartin1979
(Post 23103244)
Considering the very large number of SFO-based 1K's, this is a *very* typical experience for many of us. ;)
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Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
(Post 23103248)
No according to DidItClear - again, presuming to speak for everyone else. My upgrades in and out of SFO are much higher - 80%+ plus because of destination/timing. You don't speak for my experience in/out of SFO.
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Originally Posted by amartin1979
(Post 23103257)
Since you aren't SFO-based, you really have zero basis for comparison. :o
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