AMS or BRU: which is easier connection
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Change planes in AMS or BRU?
I've got my eye on "free" tickets IAD-MUC with a change in either AMS or BRU. Can go First or Biz to BRU, Biz only to AMS. Change time 1 hour 35 minutes at both. Is this reasonable at one or both? Is one preferable? I usually try for at least two hours to change so would like expert opinions. Nonstops not available so want to lock something in.
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I've got my eye on "free" tickets IAD-MUC with a change in either AMS or BRU. Can go First or Biz to BRU, Biz only to AMS. Change time 1 hour 35 minutes at both. Is this reasonable at one or both? Is one preferable? I usually try for at least two hours to change so would like expert opinions. Nonstops not available so want to lock something in.
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With that connection time, lounge access isn't much of an issue. Either airport is fairly easy to navigate.
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I'd take AMS over BRU with 95 minutes going into Schengen in the morning. The terminal change and whatnot is a bit of a pain in BRU. The lounge options are better but that's somewhat less significant to me than making the connection easily.
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It's been quite a few years since I connected in AMS, so not sure about the current set-up. The security check in AMS could be bad; they have a tendency to try outdo the TSA in nastiness. My rule has been to avoid AMS and I have done so successfully for maybe 9 years now. However, if they have a set-up where you can avoid security check like MUC, CPH, etc. (i.e. US arriving pax segregated from other "unclean" non-Schengen) but that's unlikely if I recall the airport config, then it might trump BRU.
Overall, my guess is that you are more likely to be delayed at passport or security at AMS. Although I am not sure how the security is set up for transfers based on the reconfiguration at European airports in the last ~5 years. You also have to remember that Star Alliance is going to get the worst possible gates at AMS.
BRU is ok. It's a longish walk from non-Schengen to the newer Schengen terminal through a tunnel. The security is normally painless. You can scan your BP to access gated fast-track security.
There is a decent SAS lounge in BRU. If your flight is on time you should have at least 30 min there with on time arrival. They have basic breakfast items. Often the flights into Europe are early if the winds are good.
p.s. AMS also uses body scanners..... that's enough for me to avoid it.
Overall, my guess is that you are more likely to be delayed at passport or security at AMS. Although I am not sure how the security is set up for transfers based on the reconfiguration at European airports in the last ~5 years. You also have to remember that Star Alliance is going to get the worst possible gates at AMS.
BRU is ok. It's a longish walk from non-Schengen to the newer Schengen terminal through a tunnel. The security is normally painless. You can scan your BP to access gated fast-track security.
There is a decent SAS lounge in BRU. If your flight is on time you should have at least 30 min there with on time arrival. They have basic breakfast items. Often the flights into Europe are early if the winds are good.
p.s. AMS also uses body scanners..... that's enough for me to avoid it.
Last edited by gnaget; Oct 6, 2013 at 11:03 am
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Overall, my guess is that you are more likely to be delayed at passport or security at AMS. Although I am not sure how the security is set up for transfers based on the reconfiguration at European airports in the last ~5 years. You also have to remember that Star Alliance is going to get the worst possible gates at AMS.
One could opt-out.
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Not really true. Since a while, most UA departures are from the D-gates, which are quite close to the B-gate where EU Star Alliance carriers depart from (except SK, they depart from the C-gates). UA arrivals tend to be at the G-gates. All is in walking-distance, no trains or anything needed.
One could opt-out.
One could opt-out.
So United moves the planes from G to D? That seems inefficient.
Back when I used to go thru AMS there was no security on arrival from outside Schengen. Not sure if the arrival security will have body scanners, but you certainly will experience them if you fly via AMS on the return to the US.
Opt-out of the body scan, eh? Wonderful; so that you can be groped. Thus, at AMS you will probably get body scanned at the gate when you fly to the US with United so definitely avoid it inbound. That means you will have to go through security twice on the way back: both MUC and AMS. If you fly through most other European airports you are "clean" at the first point since 2008 or 2009. AMS was doing this nonsense already in the 1990s. They used to have an interrogation at the gate as well back then. I avoided AMS when going to the US when I flew UA; I would only consider it going US-AMS-Europe and wound up using AMS ca. 2002-2005 only because of very good availability for W fares and confirmable upgrade SWUs (in case sold out in cheaper classes via FRA/MUC).
BRU used to have extra gate security for UA flights but stopped as of 2009, I think. There is no way of separating US passengers at BRU (correct me if I am wrong), so you can't avoid arrival security. (Actually you join the flow of departing passengers making their way to the Schengen A gates.) Arriving and connecting in MUC these days is wonderful. I flew ORD-MUC-IST and I would have had literally 1 minute to my next gate if I hadn't gone to the lounge.
Does the Servisair lounge at AMS or whatever it's called still have the bright blue vinyl seats? The most hideous decor ever.
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I'd do BRU. Connection time is enough to do comfortably in both airports. Lounges stink in both airports. F is simply the kicker here.
Bonus: BRU-MUC is *slightly* shorter than AMS-MUC, meaning less time on crappy narrowbody LH aircraft. And it looks like AMS-MUC is only regional aircraft, so another bonus (barely) of BRU.
Bonus: BRU-MUC is *slightly* shorter than AMS-MUC, meaning less time on crappy narrowbody LH aircraft. And it looks like AMS-MUC is only regional aircraft, so another bonus (barely) of BRU.
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I connected through AMS earlier this year from Istanbul back to Houston. The connection was relatively seamless, and I experienced no problems. On the other hand, I have flown in and out of BRU many times, and have found the staff most excellent. Personally, I would go into BRU because of the greater presence of star alliance. If anything happens there should be more opportunities to accommodate you.