SFO-MSP going RJ?
May 17, 2014, 2:18 am
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Just noticed my November SFO-MSP Rez changed the aircraft downgauged from 319 to ERJ175. Are you kidding me? 1,589 mile flight.
Paid F on a flight I'll now be served no meal. No thanks. I'll fly Delta.
Just noticed my November SFO-MSP Rez changed the aircraft downgauged from 319 to ERJ175. Are you kidding me? 1,589 mile flight.
Paid F on a flight I'll now be served no meal. No thanks. I'll fly Delta.
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May 17, 2014, 2:50 am
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On the dates I'm looking at in October, DL flies six daily nonstops SFO-MSP - 2 757s and 4 320s. And UA can't float a single 319 nonstop? From SFO?
May 17, 2014, 2:55 am
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Whats sad is I'd actually be OK with this b/c I like having the row to myself... But if F class were actually fed a meal on a 1589 mi flight. Thats just a dealbreaker for me.
Its surprising because there are tons of GS taking this route and I've seen it go from a 319/320, occasional 738 to a 175. United must be insane to think people are going to pay F for this anymore.
Also seeing SFO-STL RJ frequency added,
Originally Posted by Kacee
On the dates I'm looking at in October, DL flies six daily nonstops SFO-MSP - 2 757s and 4 320s. And UA can't float a single 319 nonstop? From SFO?
Its surprising because there are tons of GS taking this route and I've seen it go from a 319/320, occasional 738 to a 175. United must be insane to think people are going to pay F for this anymore.
Also seeing SFO-STL RJ frequency added,
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May 17, 2014, 3:06 am
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DL is not going to pull any international traffic from SFO, so they are apparently filling six daily flights with O/D traffic. And UA can't sustain one.
May 17, 2014, 4:49 am
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Delta also happens to have a large hub in msp. Very large hub. That's how they fill 6 flights. Ua's sfo hub is much smaller and this flight is primarily geared towards the sfo- based o/d traveler
UOTE=Kacee;22878407]It's been a full flight every time I've been on it. But that is just anecdotal.
DL is not going to pull any international traffic from SFO, so they are apparently filling six daily flights with O/D traffic. And UA can't sustain one.[/QUOTE]
UOTE=Kacee;22878407]It's been a full flight every time I've been on it. But that is just anecdotal.
DL is not going to pull any international traffic from SFO, so they are apparently filling six daily flights with O/D traffic. And UA can't sustain one.[/QUOTE]
May 17, 2014, 7:04 am
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Actually an increase in flights/improvement
Actually the schedule change is an improvement:
goes from 1 319 daily to 2 E-175 Daily (Msp-Sfo) 7:30am and 5:00pm
and allows morning and evening service
seat count goes from 120 to 152
all coaches seats are 2 and 2
first class goes from 8 to 24 seats
175s may have food
this is really a comfortable plane with more frequency
Flyer talk continues with all negative but never good news
goes from 1 319 daily to 2 E-175 Daily (Msp-Sfo) 7:30am and 5:00pm
and allows morning and evening service
seat count goes from 120 to 152
all coaches seats are 2 and 2
first class goes from 8 to 24 seats
175s may have food
this is really a comfortable plane with more frequency
Flyer talk continues with all negative but never good news
May 17, 2014, 7:17 am
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Now that's flying friendly!
May 17, 2014, 7:18 am
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Actually the schedule change is an improvement:
goes from 1 319 daily to 2 E-175 Daily (Msp-Sfo) 7:30am and 5:00pm
and allows morning and evening service
seat count goes from 120 to 152
all coaches seats are 2 and 2
first class goes from 8 to 24 seats
175s may have food
this is really a comfortable plane with more frequency
Flyer talk continues with all negative but never good news
goes from 1 319 daily to 2 E-175 Daily (Msp-Sfo) 7:30am and 5:00pm
and allows morning and evening service
seat count goes from 120 to 152
all coaches seats are 2 and 2
first class goes from 8 to 24 seats
175s may have food
this is really a comfortable plane with more frequency
Flyer talk continues with all negative but never good news
May 17, 2014, 8:30 am
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Improvement? No wifi, no meals in first, run out of liquor, flight more likely to get cancelled and contracted workers. Yup a great improvement.
Exactly. And on some days its only 1x 175. The big issue for me isn't just the flight length, but lack of F meal.
Originally Posted by LASUA1K
Actually the schedule change is an improvement:
goes from 1 319 daily to 2 E-175 Daily (Msp-Sfo) 7:30am and 5:00pm
and allows morning and evening service
seat count goes from 120 to 152
all coaches seats are 2 and 2
first class goes from 8 to 24 seats
175s may have food
this is really a comfortable plane with more frequency
Flyer talk continues with all negative but never good news
goes from 1 319 daily to 2 E-175 Daily (Msp-Sfo) 7:30am and 5:00pm
and allows morning and evening service
seat count goes from 120 to 152
all coaches seats are 2 and 2
first class goes from 8 to 24 seats
175s may have food
this is really a comfortable plane with more frequency
Flyer talk continues with all negative but never good news
Improvement? No wifi, no meals in first, run out of liquor, flight more likely to get cancelled and contracted workers. Yup a great improvement.
May 17, 2014, 8:49 am
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SFO - MSP is not just O&D. Don't forget that SFO is a hub that provides connections for the west coast. I regularly used to fly PDX - SFO - MSP. I rarely saw an empty seat on the SFO - MSP flights.
I gave that up a couple of years ago and now just fly non-stop PDX - MSP on DL for my five or six trips per year to MSP. It just isn't worth it to chase miles or status on UA. I do miss the hot pockets that I got on the UA flight when I did get upgraded. Mmmm...hot pocket.
I gave that up a couple of years ago and now just fly non-stop PDX - MSP on DL for my five or six trips per year to MSP. It just isn't worth it to chase miles or status on UA. I do miss the hot pockets that I got on the UA flight when I did get upgraded. Mmmm...hot pocket.
May 17, 2014, 9:13 am
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Have you flown an E175 yet?
In this case, I think increased frequency, on the biggest 'small' RJ, with increased F availability, is an improvement.
However, UA does need to add a meal in F (and have the fresh BoB items in in Y) on their 175's, especially on these longer flights.
In this case, I think increased frequency, on the biggest 'small' RJ, with increased F availability, is an improvement.
However, UA does need to add a meal in F (and have the fresh BoB items in in Y) on their 175's, especially on these longer flights.
May 17, 2014, 9:19 am
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May 17, 2014, 9:24 am
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Have you flown an E175 yet?
In this case, I think increased frequency, on the biggest 'small' RJ, with increased F availability, is an improvement.
However, UA does need to add a meal in F (and have the fresh BoB items in in Y) on their 175's, especially on these longer flights.
In this case, I think increased frequency, on the biggest 'small' RJ, with increased F availability, is an improvement.
However, UA does need to add a meal in F (and have the fresh BoB items in in Y) on their 175's, especially on these longer flights.
Also, it is not always 2 daily. Another ,think, didn't UA tell us these aircraft would "upgrade" smaller Express flights. Nope, all they are going to do is add another daily to either ORD, IAH or EWR. That's it.
You are trying to spin this, but the 175's were meant to upgrade smaller express not downgrade.