SFO-MSP going RJ?
#46
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United Airlines has pulled out of the market. Skywest is not United Airlines.
I hate of Express is due to UA blaming anything that goes wrong on skywest
Again, UA is not in the market with 2 express flights with no service.
It's a shame UA thought of First Class in an rj and didn't advance it at all.
I hate of Express is due to UA blaming anything that goes wrong on skywest
Again, UA is not in the market with 2 express flights with no service.
It's a shame UA thought of First Class in an rj and didn't advance it at all.
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Totally agree. Particularly when competition outnumbers them in seats, comfort, IFE/wifi, food, the list goes on.
There comes a point where you question whether the folks at the top are actively trying to make customers leave. I wish I was being sarcastic.
Originally Posted by LASUA1K
United Airlines has pulled out of the market. Skywest is not United Airlines.
I hate of Express is due to UA blaming anything that goes wrong on skywest
Again, UA is not in the market with 2 express flights with no service.
It's a shame UA thought of First Class in an rj and didn't advance it at all.
I hate of Express is due to UA blaming anything that goes wrong on skywest
Again, UA is not in the market with 2 express flights with no service.
It's a shame UA thought of First Class in an rj and didn't advance it at all.
There comes a point where you question whether the folks at the top are actively trying to make customers leave. I wish I was being sarcastic.
#49
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Actually the schedule change is an improvement:
goes from 1 319 daily to 2 E-175 Daily (Msp-Sfo) 7:30am and 5:00pm
and allows morning and evening service
seat count goes from 120 to 152
all coaches seats are 2 and 2
first class goes from 8 to 24 seats
175s may have food
this is really a comfortable plane with more frequency
Flyer talk continues with all negative but never good news
goes from 1 319 daily to 2 E-175 Daily (Msp-Sfo) 7:30am and 5:00pm
and allows morning and evening service
seat count goes from 120 to 152
all coaches seats are 2 and 2
first class goes from 8 to 24 seats
175s may have food
this is really a comfortable plane with more frequency
Flyer talk continues with all negative but never good news
E-175s are huge upgrades over A319s. They have 12 F seats instead of 8 and E+ and E is way more spacious as well.
Some people just want to complain just to complain...
#50
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None, but that should've already been known given how UA caters everything else.
You're right that very little thought was put into the future of cabin service, but the cabin and galley were standardized items to meet the requirements of a given service; in this case, UA. However, it should be noted that there's VERY little difference in galley spec between the U.S. carriers on these planes.
U.S. planes don't, no, but they could have them. Many European, Baltic, and Asian carriers do serve hot items on their RJ flights. Also, thinking back, when SkyWest code-shared with Midwest, they installed ovens to bake the cookies.
UA will have pulled out of the market if it goes at-risk (which is transparent to the passenger,) which I don't see that happening any time soon with these planes.
UA has a perfect chance to turn things around with the E-175, but as far as I know, they didn't care enough to plan for meals, let alone order ovens.
I don't think the CRJ-700s, at least for SkyWest were ordered in UAL's spec, but that's not really the point. When ExPlus was introduced, F in a regional jet was market leading and there probably wasn't thought about what type of service might be required decades into the future.
UA has a perfect chance to turn things around with the E-175, but as far as I know, they didn't care enough to plan for meals, let alone order ovens.
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What I do care about is getting where I'm going more or less per the schedule. Express is just way more likely to cancel. That can't reasonably be disputed. And when they do cancel, it's way more likely to be a complete CF.
One of the best things about flying UA out of SFO is mainline nonstop to most places people want to go. The more that gets cut, the more likely people are to switch to OAL.
Yup. Once they go to an RJ, I'm done with UA on this route.
#52
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United Airlines has pulled out of the market. Skywest is not United Airlines.
I hate of Express is due to UA blaming anything that goes wrong on skywest
Again, UA is not in the market with 2 express flights with no service.
It's a shame UA thought of First Class in an rj and didn't advance it at all.
I hate of Express is due to UA blaming anything that goes wrong on skywest
Again, UA is not in the market with 2 express flights with no service.
It's a shame UA thought of First Class in an rj and didn't advance it at all.
#53
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The fact that the seats in F aren't that great combined with the lack of food is a pretty significant downgrade for those people who routinely fly and pay for F. But, perhaps UA doesn't have that many people in paid F on those routes.
I still can't get over the fact that UA provides a snack box filled with sodium ladened processed crap while on the same route and same plane DL would serve an actual meal with items that at least appear to have a shelf life of less than a year.
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You're right that very little thought was put into the future of cabin service, but the cabin and galley were standardized items to meet the requirements of a given service; in this case, UA. However, it should be noted that there's VERY little difference in galley spec between the U.S. carriers on these planes.
#55
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Instead of the thin bulkhead divider up front? I would believe so if it's part of the DL standard configuration, but I really couldn't tell you for sure. Checking on how a galley is configured isn't something I think about when boarding an airplane.
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#57
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What route(s) is this aircraft flying on now for UA?
#59
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I know that Skywest flights are more likely to be canceled (i just fell victim to an ATC-related cancellation on Thursday), but isn't it highly route and plane dependent? I mean, these are new planes for one, so fewer of them should go MX, and operations will still decide whether this particular flight should drop when SFO or MSP has limits on traffic.
I'm not weighing in on whether this is a good decision, but MSP-SFO on a 175 is not the same as ORD-ATW on an ERJ-145.
I'm not weighing in on whether this is a good decision, but MSP-SFO on a 175 is not the same as ORD-ATW on an ERJ-145.