UA TATL Pricing Change?
I've been trying to book a flight from the US to Austria at the end of May - best RT business class fares are over $8k! Never seen such ridiculous fares in the past three years...
All the flights go through FRA and MUC - any suggestions on alternate routings to get the cost a little more reasonable? Previously I could reliably get this routing for $3.5k - $5k max... I know its the spring travel season but something seems off... Originating airports could be BUF,SYR,ALB,ROC and arrival airport needs to be GRZ. Maybe the flights are all full but I really doubt that LOL! |
Try pricing just the TATL segments, e.g. EWR/IAD-FRA/MUC to see how those price and then determine whether your US departure or EU segments are somehow jacking the price.
It may simply be that with capacity cuts and significantly increased demand, discounted premium is a dodo bird during this season. |
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 22723869)
Try pricing just the TATL segments, e.g. EWR/IAD-FRA/MUC to see how those price and then determine whether your US departure or EU segments are somehow jacking the price.
It may simply be that with capacity cuts and significantly increased demand, discounted premium is a dodo bird during this season. EDIT: Actually found R space leaving from US on the 27th - Might actually purchase Economy and then upgrade to business. R space on the return still not available though and can't farelock due to LH segments - funny that their pricing strategy might encourage me to spend less and upgrade - but maybe that's what they want! |
Even coach fares seem higher than ever. I was hoping to take a trip in September, but the prices appear way out of line.
And not only that, but it appears that United is using a bigger font with their quoted fares, making them seem even bigger. |
Originally Posted by bearwoody
(Post 22723908)
Even coach fares seem higher than ever. I was hoping to take a trip in September, but the prices appear way out of line.
Originally Posted by bearwoody
(Post 22723908)
And not only that, but it appears that United is using a bigger font with their quoted fares, making them seem even bigger.
Maybe it's to inspire shock and awe? |
Originally Posted by Eric Westby
(Post 22723926)
Maybe it's to inspire shock and awe?
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Originally Posted by bmwe92fan
(Post 22723862)
I've been trying to book a flight from the US to Austria at the end of May - best RT business class fares are over $8k! Never seen such ridiculous fares in the past three years...
All the flights go through FRA and MUC - any suggestions on alternate routings to get the cost a little more reasonable? Previously I could reliably get this routing for $3.5k - $5k max... I know its the spring travel season but something seems off... Originating airports could be BUF,SYR,ALB,ROC and arrival airport needs to be GRZ. Maybe the flights are all full but I really doubt that LOL! I don't know how convenient it would be for you to drive to YYZ, but I am seeing fares in the $5700 CAD range on AC, LH and OS. Much cheaper if you book BA (as an AA codeshare) ... $4400 CAD. |
Originally Posted by cheltzel
(Post 22724038)
On ITA I am seeing ROC-YYZ-FRA-GRZ on AC for $5900 in the last week of May.
I don't know how convenient it would be for you to drive to YYZ, but I am seeing fares in the $5700 CAD range on AC, LH and OS. Much cheaper if you book BA (as an AA codeshare) ... $4400 CAD. |
Originally Posted by bmwe92fan
(Post 22724046)
Thanks that's a viable option. The flights from upstate NY to YYZ are notoriously unreliable - so it may be best just to drive to YYZ. Thanks again.
BTW the flights from ORD to YYZ can be pretty bad as well. :rolleyes: I checked YOW and YUL as well. $5100 CAD for AC and LH via MUC. I do not know the feasibility for you to get to either airport but the flights themselves are probably better (new business class on LH). |
This isn't a UA specific issue.
For flights from NYC to VIE in late August, the pricing falls into the following categories: The UA/LH/AC and BA/AA/IB JVs price their flights almost identically - 1-stop flights are $5,500, the UA/LH/AC JV has a non-stop option for $7k The DL/VS JV is significantly more expensive for their 1-stop flights (DL's price is more than UA's non-stop!) There are several second-tier airlines that offer more competitive pricing - OS and LO for example. Apparently this is the pricing that the industry believes the market will tolerate for this time window. I'm simply not seeing this as a "pricing change" by UA - TATL pricing changes on a very regular basis, at least in the 15 years I've been buying tickets on a very regular basis. |
Originally Posted by star_world
(Post 22724343)
This isn't a UA specific issue.
For flights from NYC to VIE in late August, the pricing falls into the following categories: The UA/LH/AC and BA/AA/IB JVs price their flights almost identically - 1-stop flights are $5,500, the UA/LH/AC JV has a non-stop option for $7k The DL/VS JV is significantly more expensive for their 1-stop flights (DL's price is more than UA's non-stop!) There are several second-tier airlines that offer more competitive pricing - OS and LO for example. Apparently this is the pricing that the industry believes the market will tolerate for this time window. I'm simply not seeing this as a "pricing change" by UA - TATL pricing changes on a very regular basis, at least in the 15 years I've been buying tickets on a very regular basis. |
Could this be an effect of less inventory being available in the wake of the recent fare war?
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Originally Posted by discoverCSG
(Post 22724527)
Could this be an effect of less inventory being available in the wake of the recent fare war?
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Originally Posted by bmwe92fan
(Post 22723862)
I've been trying to book a flight from the US to Austria at the end of May - best RT business class fares are over $8k! Never seen such ridiculous fares in the past three years...
All the flights go through FRA and MUC - any suggestions on alternate routings to get the cost a little more reasonable? Previously I could reliably get this routing for $3.5k - $5k max... I know its the spring travel season but something seems off... Originating airports could be BUF,SYR,ALB,ROC and arrival airport needs to be GRZ. Maybe the flights are all full but I really doubt that LOL! |
Originally Posted by FlyerTom111
(Post 22724644)
Well I hope they are full. The last few flights I booked were expensive and there were a lot of empty seats.
I wouldn't have created this thread if the price came back at only 50% more - but the fare has basically doubled - and I typically book 4-6 weeks out, and have for years... Loads don't look any heavier than usual and UA has added capacity TATL - would not have expected pricing to double... Just for kicks I looked at same dates for TPAC to NRT - same cost as usual $3,500 in business class. Something isn't right with TATL pricing... |
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