INTL Refund penalty $750?
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INTL Refund penalty $750?
Didn't have the easiest-to-understand phone rep so wanted to see if anyone has had experience before I call back:
I have an INTL ticket on hold ORD-CDG ...before I spend $5k I want to be sure that most of it can be refunded... the detail in the fare code doesn't say ...so does $750 sound right?
City Pairs Fare Class Fare Basis Code
CHI - PAR A AOAX28V
I have an INTL ticket on hold ORD-CDG ...before I spend $5k I want to be sure that most of it can be refunded... the detail in the fare code doesn't say ...so does $750 sound right?
City Pairs Fare Class Fare Basis Code
CHI - PAR A AOAX28V
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That's new to me, but the fare rules do indeed say:
CANCELLATIONS
BEFORE DEPARTURE
CHARGE USD 750.00.
WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE.
ETA: That also applies to CHANGES, ANY TIME.
Brutal.
CANCELLATIONS
BEFORE DEPARTURE
CHARGE USD 750.00.
WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE.
ETA: That also applies to CHANGES, ANY TIME.
Brutal.
Last edited by Shigernafy; Feb 18, 2014 at 1:58 pm Reason: clarifying with additional information
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Using Expertflyer, I see one fare with code AOAX28V — looks like it's actually designated AOAX28V/UAF.
Yes, the fare rules include a $750 fee to change, cancel, or refund.
Yes, the fare rules include a $750 fee to change, cancel, or refund.
Code:
Rules Search: Departing CHI on 02/25/14 for PAR Fare basis code AOAX28V/UAF Flying UA Routing via North Atlantic Rule Category Rule Text RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. SPECIAL FIRST CLASS WEB FARES BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2/3 APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2/AREA 3. CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES. FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ROUND-TRIP JOURNEYS. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS, WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST JUDGEMENT. OTHER CONDITIONS CORPORATE VOLUME DISCOUNTS ARE ALSO NOT PERMITTED ON A CLASS FARES. ACCRUE BASE MILES AND ELITE STATUS BONUS MILES BUT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR CABIN/CLASS OF SERVICE BONUS MILES. ELIGIBILITY VALID FOR ADULT PSGR. THIS FARE IS VALID FOR A SPECIFIED ACCOUNT CODE. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. OR - FOR ADULT PSGR. DAY/TIME NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY. SEASONALITY NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY. FLIGHT APPLICATION IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 1 THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 3M ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9L ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AX ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY C5 ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY EV ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY G7 ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY OO ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY RP ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY S5 ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY YV ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY YX ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY QK ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9K ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY ZK ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA ANY HA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA ANY US FLIGHT OPERATED BY US ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY WP ANY WP FLIGHT OPERATED BY WP ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY VW. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TRANSATLANTIC SECTORS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY SN ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY OS ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY VO ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY WK ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY EI UA FLIGHT 7916 OPERATED BY SA UA FLIGHT 7918 OPERATED BY SA. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 2 THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY UA FLIGHT ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY 2A ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY C3 ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY C9 ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY CL ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY EN ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY EW ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY IQ ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY VO ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY 4U ANY 4U FLIGHT OPERATED BY 4U ANY EN FLIGHT OPERATED BY EN ANY OS FLIGHT OPERATED BY NG ANY OS FLIGHT OPERATED BY OS ANY OS FLIGHT OPERATED BY VO ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY F7 ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY WK ANY WK FLIGHT OPERATED BY WK ANY SN FLIGHT OPERATED BY SN ANY A3 FLIGHT OPERATED BY A3 ANY BE FLIGHT OPERATED BY BE ANY EI FLIGHT OPERATED BY EI ANY ET FLIGHT OPERATED BY ET ANY EY FLIGHT OPERATED BY EY ANY FZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY FZ ANY GF FLIGHT OPERATED BY GF ANY J2 FLIGHT OPERATED BY J2 ANY JP FLIGHT OPERATED BY JP ANY KF FLIGHT OPERATED BY KF ANY KU FLIGHT OPERATED BY KU ANY LG FLIGHT OPERATED BY LG ANY LO FLIGHT OPERATED BY LO ANY ME FLIGHT OPERATED BY ME ANY MS FLIGHT OPERATED BY MS ANY OU FLIGHT OPERATED BY OU ANY PS FLIGHT OPERATED BY PS ANY SA FLIGHT OPERATED BY SA ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY SK ANY TK FLIGHT OPERATED BY TK ANY TP FLIGHT OPERATED BY TP ANY UX FLIGHT OPERATED BY UX ANY VS FLIGHT OPERATED BY VS ANY WF FLIGHT OPERATED BY WF ANY WY FLIGHT OPERATED BY WY. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN AREA 2 AND AREA 3 THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY 4Q FLIGHT OPERATED BY 4Q ANY 9W FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9W ANY EY FLIGHT OPERATED BY EY ANY FZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY FZ ANY GF FLIGHT OPERATED BY GF ANY KC FLIGHT OPERATED BY KC ANY KU FLIGHT OPERATED BY KU ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX ANY ME FLIGHT OPERATED BY ME ANY MS FLIGHT OPERATED BY MS ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY MS ANY OS FLIGHT OPERATED BY OS ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY OS ANY PK FLIGHT OPERATED BY PK ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY SK ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY SK ANY TK FLIGHT OPERATED BY TK ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY TK ANY UL FLIGHT OPERATED BY UL ANY WY FLIGHT OPERATED BY WY. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 3 THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY 9W FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9W ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9W ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY S2 ANY S2 FLIGHT OPERATED BY S2 ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH. ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 28 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 72 HOURS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 28 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER. MINIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN. MAXIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN. STOPOVERS 2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT LIMITED TO 1 FREE AND 1 AT USD 150.00. 1 FREE IN EUROPE 1 IN EUROPE AT USD 150.00. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. TRANSFERS 5 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. 3 PERMITTED IN AREA 2/AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION 2 PERMITTED IN AREA 1 IN EACH DIRECTION. FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. COMBINATIONS END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMBINATIONS. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER UA/AC AREA 1. COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER UA/LH/LX/OS/SN/AC AREA 2 OR FOR CARRIER UA/LH/LX/OS/SN/AC AREA 2/AREA 3. OPEN JAWS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. PROVIDED - WHEN THE OPEN SEGMENT OCCURS -BETWEEN AREA 2 AND AREA 3 -WITHIN AREA 1/WITHIN AREA 2 OR WITHIN AREA 3 COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER UA/LH/ LX/OS/SN/AC IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF. ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER UA/LH/ LX/OS/SN/AC IN ANY RULE FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC. NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINT - NYC-EWR BLACKOUT DATES NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY. SURCHARGES IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2. THERE IS NO MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE PER DIRECTION PER ANY PASSENGER. THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF UA. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF UA OR AC. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF UA OR LH. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF UA OR LX. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF UA OR OS. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF UA OR SN. THERE IS NO MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE PER DIRECTION PER ANY PASSENGER. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. YQ FEE MAY APPLY ORIGINATING AREA 1 - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 470.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER. AND - ORIGINATING EUROPE - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 470.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER. ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED. TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY. SALES RESTRICTIONS FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY UA. TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN UNITED STATES. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. AUTO FARE QUOTE FOR ORIGINAL TICKET ONLY REQUIRED. OR - FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY UA OR LH. TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN UNITED STATES. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. AUTO FARE QUOTE FOR ORIGINAL TICKET ONLY REQUIRED. OR - FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY UA OR LX. TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN UNITED STATES. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. AUTO FARE QUOTE FOR ORIGINAL TICKET ONLY REQUIRED. OR - FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY UA OR LH. TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN UNITED STATES. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. AUTO FARE QUOTE FOR ORIGINAL TICKET ONLY REQUIRED. OR - FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY CRS 1S AND TRAVEL AGENTS. TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN UNITED STATES. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. AUTO FARE QUOTE FOR ORIGINAL TICKET ONLY REQUIRED. PENALTIES CANCELLATIONS BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 750.00. WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -- CHILDREN GENERAL RULE NOT APPLICABLE CAT 19 - INFANT W/O A SEAT // CHILD // INFANT WITH A SEAT -- A. UA CUSTOMER COMMITMENT -- CUSTOMERS WHO PURCHASE A TICKET FOR TRAVEL ON UNITED VIA UA CHANNELS MAY CANCEL THEIR RESERVATIONS/REFUND TICKET WITHOUT PENALTY WITHIN 24HRS OF PURCHASE. -- B. EXCHANGE - CHANGE TO 1ST TICKETED FLIGHT / WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET -- FULL VALUE OF WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET PRICED AT CURRENT FARE LEVELS UPON PAYMENT OF THE CANCEL FEE CONTAINED WITHIN THIS RULE AND DIFFERENCE IN FARE/TAX/FEES/SURCHARGES COLLECTED/REFUNDED AT TIME OF EXCHANGE --TAG 5 WHOLLY UNUSED / OUTBOUND 1ST FLIGHT COUPON CHANGE REPRICE USING CURRENT QUALIFYING FARES CHARGE CANCEL FEE OR HIGHEST CANCEL FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS. 1. ADVANCE RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 2. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER --WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE -- REFUND RESIDUAL // THEN ADD-COLLECT REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT -- C. LOWER FARE INTRODUCED OR AVAILABLE IN MARKET -- WHEN A LOWER FARE IS INTRODUCED INTO THE MARKET OR A CURRENT FARE IS REDUCED OR BECOMES AVAILABLE / THE TICKETED PASSENGER MAY QUALIFY FOR THE ABOVE. ALL PROVISIONS OF THE LOWER AIR FARE MUST BE MET BEFORE DEPARTURE. NO CHANGE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION/DATES/FLIGHTS. ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGE IS PERMITTED. -- A SERVICE FEE EQUAL TO THE CHANGE FEE WILL BE ASSESSED. RESIDUAL VALUE / IF ANY / WILL BE RETURNED TO THE ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT. --TAG 7 - ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGE PERMITTED-- REPRICE USING CURRENT QUALIFYING FARES. CHARGE CHANGE FEE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS. 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS/FLIGHTS/DATES 2. UA FARES ARE USED 3. ADV RES IS MEASURE FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 4. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE -- REFUND RESIDUAL / THEN ADD-COLLECT REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT -- D. EMERGENCY PROVISION -- TICKET MAY BE USED TOWARD PURCHASE OF ANOTHER TICKET DUE TO AN EMERGENCY OF PASSENGER / IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER OR TRAVELING COMPANION. DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED CONTACT CARRIER. AFTER DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 750.00. WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -- CHILDREN GENERAL NOT APPLICABLE CAT 19 - INFANT W/O A SEAT // CHILD// INFANT WITH A SEAT -- --CALCULATE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FARE PAID AND QUALIFYING FARE FOR TRAVEL COMPLETE USING FARES OF ORIGINAL TICKET DATE / LESS CANCEL PENALTY / REFUND RESIDUAL VALUE IF ANY TO ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT. CHANGES ANY TIME CHARGE USD 750.00. WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -- CHILDREN GENERAL RULE NOT APPLICABLE CAT 19 - INFANT W/O A SEAT // CHILD // INFANT WITH A SEAT -- A. CHANGE MADE TO OTHER THAN THE FIRST TICKETED FLIGHT -- TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED WHEN ANY VOLUNTARY CHANGE IS MADE. WHEN TICKETED RESERVATIONS ARE CANCELLED PRIOR TO FLIGHT TIME - NEW FLIGHTS MUST BE CONFIRMED AND TICKET REISSUED. NO OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED. -- IF CHANGES ARE MADE TO OTHER THAN THE FIRST TICKETED FLIGHT THE FARE LEVELS IN EFFECT AT TIME OF ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE WILL APPLY PROVIDED THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR ALL THE PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE FAMILY / IGNORING ADVANCE RESERVATION OR TICKETING REQUIREMENTS. -- IF THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE FAMILY / BUT RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE / THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE AND THE CHANGE FEE MUST BE COLLECTED AT TIME OF CHANGE / REISSUE. --IF THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE FAMILY / BUT RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE / REFUND RESIDUAL / THEN ADD-COLLECT REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT. -- IF CHANGES BY THE PASSENGER NO LONGER QUALIFY FOR THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE / FULL VALUE OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS EQUAL OR HIGHER QUALIFYING FARE - USING FARES IN EFFECT ON THE ORIGINAL TICKETING DATE. -- FARE IS RECALCULATED FROM POINT OF ORIGIN / ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE / TAXES AND CHANGE FEE CONTAINED WITHIN THIS RULE WILL BE APPLICABLE AT TIME OF CHANGE / REISSUE. ------- CHARGE CHANGE FEE OR HIGHEST CHANGE FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS. TAG 1 - REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE SAME BOOKING CODE PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON/FARE BREAKS 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKT 4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 5. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE - REFUND RESIDUAL / THEN ADD-COLLECT REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ----- --OR-- --TAG 2 - HISTORICAL FARES / REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TICKET WAS ISSUED PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPONG 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. A-/D-/Z- FARE FAMILY FARES ARE USED 4. ALL BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 6. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER --- ---OR--- --TAG 2 - REPRICE USING FARE IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TICKET 4. ALL BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 6. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER --- --OR-- ---TAG 2 -- REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. ANY CARRIER NORMAL FARES ARE USED 4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 6. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER --WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE - REFUND RESIDUAL / THEN ADD-COLLECT REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT -- B. EMERGENCY PROVISION -- TICKET MAY BE USED TOWARD PURCHASE OF ANOTHER TICKET DUE TO AN EMERGENCY OF PASSENGER / IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER OR TRAVELING COMPANION. DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED CONTACT CARRIER. HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS NOTE - FOR ROUTING FARES - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS. THESE FARES ARE NOT TO BE USED FOR HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT HIP CHECK AND ARE NOT TO BE USED FOR CALCULATING DIFFERENTIALS. TICKET ENDORSEMENTS THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - -REFUNDABLE/CXLFEE/CHGFEE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX. CHILDREN DISCOUNTS CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - NO DISCOUNT. OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT APPLIED. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - NO DISCOUNT. OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - NO DISCOUNT. TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS. AGENT DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS. ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. NO DISCOUNTS APPLY MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS THIS FARE MUST NOT BE USED TO CALCULATE A DIFFERENTIAL. FARE BY RULE NOT APPLICABLE. GROUPS NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY. TOURS NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY. VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY. DEPOSITS NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY. VOLUNTARY CHANGES IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE USD 750.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND REPRICE USING CURRENT FARES - ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGES PERMITTED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS ON/BEFORE DAY OF ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. UA FARES ARE USED 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 6. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT ENDORSEMENT BOX - NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE USD 750.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS APPLY AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. AC/LH/LX/OS/SN/UA FARES ARE USED 2. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 3. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE USD 750.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS APPLY AND ONLY REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE IF RESULTS IN VALID SOLUTION PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON/FARE BREAKS 2. SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED 3. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 4. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 5. AC/LH/LX/OS/SN/UA FARES ARE USED 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 8. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE USD 750.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS APPLY AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. AC/LH/LX/OS/SN/UA A- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 6. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. AC/LH/LX/OS/SN/UA FARES ARE USED 4. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 7. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED 4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 6. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE USD 750.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS APPLY AND ONLY REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE IF RESULTS IN VALID SOLUTION PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON/FARE BREAKS 2. SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED 3. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 4. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 5. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 6. AC/LH/LX/OS/SN/UA FARES ARE USED 7. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 8. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 9. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE USD 750.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS APPLY AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 3. AC/LH/LX/OS/SN/UA A- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 6. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 3. AC/LH/LX/OS/SN/UA FARES ARE USED 4. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 7. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED 4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 6. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. . VOLUNTARY REFUNDS CHECK CATEGORY 16 OR CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. NEGOTIATED FARES NOT APPLICABLE. INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
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I often buy A fares. Yes, for a heavily discounted First Class ticket, the cancellation fee often is $750.
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Is UA the only airline with such a punitive charge or are they just adjusting to what other airlines are charging?
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Thanks everyone! It is indeed steep (15% of tkt cost), but my plans often change last-minute, so it is good that I can at least get most of my money back.
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You should always read the fare rules before purchasing any tickets as they vary materially from carrier to carrier, route to route, and fare to fare.
Keep in mind, Trans-Atlantic pricing and fare rules are usually aligned within each alliance. So, if you look, UA, LH, and LX have the same fares with the same fare rules. The $750 change fee for low-end Star Alliance F seems to be in-line with One-World which is also $750 for BA or AA low-end F fares (e.x. P2X9AR). Sky Team (AF) is only $450 for their low-end F (FXP68US).
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$750 does seem pretty steep. i don't think i'd be booking that if my plans weren't concrete, but OP's MMV.