Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Economy only, not First (Business) -- even for GS
Premier priority travel services
Premier priority travel services
Access to most sold-out flights: Premier members may receive confirmed reservations - even when a flight is sold out - when purchasing certain full-fare tickets. Premier 1K® members may take advantage of this benefit when purchasing an unrestricted Y or B class ticket at least 90 minutes prior to departure. This benefit also applies to Premier Platinum members when purchasing an unrestricted Y class ticket at least 120 minutes prior to departure, and Premier Gold and Premier Silver members when purchasing an unrestricted Y class ticket at least 24 hours prior to departure.
Please contact the Premier Priority Desk or call the United Customer Contact Center at 1-800-UNITED-1 (1-800-864-8331) to reserve and purchase your flight.
Please contact the Premier Priority Desk or call the United Customer Contact Center at 1-800-UNITED-1 (1-800-864-8331) to reserve and purchase your flight.
"Access to most sold-out flights" (Economy only)
#1
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"Access to most sold-out flights" (Economy only)
My flights tomorrow through Denver were cancelled due to wx - fine. I tried to get the same flights on Monday but was told the 1st leg was sold out; I advised the 1K agent I wished to pay full Y on that leg and confirm my seat. The agent didn't know what to do and consulted his supervisor. After a few minutes the agent came back on the line and stated that post merger 1K's no longer had the privilege to confirm space on sold out flights. Hmmm; hang up and try again, but I received the same answer.
Is this another change I'm going to like, or were both agents in error? This wouldn't be such a big deal but there is only 1 outbound UA(X) flight per day out of FCA and the desired outbound date of travel was Sunday.
Is this another change I'm going to like, or were both agents in error? This wouldn't be such a big deal but there is only 1 outbound UA(X) flight per day out of FCA and the desired outbound date of travel was Sunday.
Last edited by deek; Feb 24, 2013 at 8:01 am
#2
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welll, United claims this in Premier priority travel services
Access to Most Sold-Out Flights: Premier members may receive confirmed reservations – even when a flight is sold out – when purchasing certain full-fare tickets. Premier 1K members may take advantage of this benefit when purchasing an unrestricted Y or B class ticket at least 90 minutes prior to departure. This benefit also applies to Premier Platinum members when purchasing an unrestricted Y class ticket at least 120 minutes prior to departure, and Premier Gold and Premier Silver members when purchasing an unrestricted Y class ticket at least 24 hours prior to departure.
#3
 
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so that was fail on two levels, access to sold out flights and service recovery assistance.
maybe you should try again?
email or call customer relations, let them know what you were told. Cite the policy on the web page. (though none of that will help you for tomorrow.)
-David
maybe you should try again?
email or call customer relations, let them know what you were told. Cite the policy on the web page. (though none of that will help you for tomorrow.)
-David
#4
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Thanks Wine and LIH; I'm on the line with them again now
UPDATE: SLC call center agent was appalled at what the 2 previous agents told me and got me a confirmed seat on the sold out leg with no fare delta - now that was nice ^
UPDATE: SLC call center agent was appalled at what the 2 previous agents told me and got me a confirmed seat on the sold out leg with no fare delta - now that was nice ^
Last edited by deek; Feb 23, 2013 at 10:39 pm
#6
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Thanks for posting the Deek, safe travels
DL only offers this on Y fares with 24 hours advance required for PLATS, that B fare option might be a good deal cheaper on my routes too.
Does this apply during IRROPS too, anyone know?
DL only offers this on Y fares with 24 hours advance required for PLATS, that B fare option might be a good deal cheaper on my routes too.
Does this apply during IRROPS too, anyone know?
#7
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Further evidence that the days of a dedicated 1K line with experienced agents are long gone.
#8
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Bear in mind that the offer has always been "most" and that the most common exception to "most" is massive IRROPS as ocurred here.
Overbooking by one more isn't generally-speaking a big deal, but it is a big deal when there are 100 SB's for a flight.
I don't think that this was handled any differently than it would have been 5 years ago. Once in a blue moon an agent takes pity and bumps somebody else who isn't standing in front of them.
Overbooking by one more isn't generally-speaking a big deal, but it is a big deal when there are 100 SB's for a flight.
I don't think that this was handled any differently than it would have been 5 years ago. Once in a blue moon an agent takes pity and bumps somebody else who isn't standing in front of them.
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Well, the UA website does say "access to most sold out flights." (emphasis added) Maybe FCA is the one city excluded (joking) - but what good is this benefit if it's ambiguous enough to not include all flights (and not specify which flights are excluded).
-FlyerBeek
-FlyerBeek
#10
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Practically speaking, most carriers will overbook by one more in most situations for someone paying full Y, elite or not. Those fares can easily be 7-8x the lowest fare on the flight and that makes it worth buying off someone with a VDB to get the HVC onboard.
#11
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I don't think so. I just did that during the blizzard in NY. Hmmmm...bump someone as GS or wait 4 days to go home. This GS member is quite pleased that UA recognizes the value of premium revenue customers.
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And that person is so much less important they should wait 4 days to get home? Wow, DYKWIA!!! I can see the benefit during normal ops when there are probably no shows but during massive IRROPS? No way.
#13
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In UA defense, they cannot promise to get an elite on all overbooked flights, as a flight could have only elites at the same or higher level. This is unlikely but in principle can happen.
The key question is what "most flights" means. Are there well-defined rules that the agents use?
The key question is what "most flights" means. Are there well-defined rules that the agents use?
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-David
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In massive IRROPS, somebody is waiting 4 days to get home. Generally, it's not going to be a top elite, because 1Ks go to the top of standby lists. GS ability to force confirmed seats is a fairly logical extension of that standby priority. It's "against the rules", but (again) that's the whole point of GS status -- exemption from certain rules that apply to everybody else.
And the benefit to UA is that it keeps those ultra profitable customers loyal and profitable. Makes sense to me.