Feb 1, 2014, 5:46 pm
Last edit by: ianmanka
Per Cleveland Airport System press release (dead link):
Eliminated CLE service:
April: BTV, BDL, MHT, MSN, YUL, OKC, PHL, PBI, PVD, RDU
May: CLT, MDT (announced Mar 31), SDF, MSP, BNA, PIT (announced Mar 31)
June: ALB (announced Mar 31), ATL, AUS, BWI (announced Mar 31), BFD*, BUF, CMH, DAY,DUJ* (pushed to October because of EAS regulations), ERI, FNT, FKL*, GRR, GSP, MDT, IND, JHW*, MCI, MSY, PKB* (pushed to October because of EAS regulations), PHX, PIT, RIC, ROC, SYR, YYZ
October: DUJ, PKB (due to DOT EAS regulations)
Per Cleveland FOX 8 report (announced on Dec 3):
March 5, 2015: DFW
April 7, 2015: RSW, FLL, TPA
*Essential Air Service Subject to DOT approval
From Cleveland.com article on March 31, 2014:
"Replacement" Routes:
Eliminated UA service: DUJ, PKB (now serviced by 3M, Silver Airways, a codeshare partner of UA, not a UAX carrier, Per gusd (Post #898))
Possible eliminated UA service: BFD, FKL, JHW
Per SteveHK screenshot (Post #75):
Nonstop service kept:ALB, BWI (announced Mar 31), ORD, DEN, IAH, LAX, EWR, SFO, IAD, BOS, DCA, DFW, FLL, (announced Dec 3) LAS, LGA, MCO, MKE, RSW, (announced Dec 3) STL, TPA (announced Dec 3)
Seasonal service kept: CUN, CHS, NAS, SJU
Discrepancies:
New peak day departures: 72 (-64%, from 199)
New peak day nonstop destinations: 20 (-66%, from 58)
New peak day seats: 6,121 (-51%, from 12,384)
New schedule: From @United (twitter) interaction with Surface Interval : We’ll be reducing flights in Cleveland beginning in April, with the new schedule available starting Feb. 8, 2014. And should be complete by Feb. 11, 2014, according to this mass e-mail from UA: "Over the next several days, we will be updating our flight schedules, which could result in changes to the flight times for your trip. If that does happen, we will send you an email with an updated itinerary on or before February 11. You may also review your itinerary any time at united.com."
Eliminated CLE service:
April: BTV, BDL, MHT, MSN, YUL, OKC, PHL, PBI, PVD, RDU
May: CLT, MDT (announced Mar 31), SDF, MSP, BNA, PIT (announced Mar 31)
June: ALB (announced Mar 31), ATL, AUS, BWI (announced Mar 31), BFD*, BUF, CMH, DAY,
October: DUJ, PKB (due to DOT EAS regulations)
Per Cleveland FOX 8 report (announced on Dec 3):
March 5, 2015: DFW
April 7, 2015: RSW, FLL, TPA
*Essential Air Service Subject to DOT approval
From Cleveland.com article on March 31, 2014:
"United will cease offering regional service from Cleveland to Albany and Baltimore effective June 5, and will end service from Cleveland to Harrisburg and Pittsburgh on April 30 as opposed to June, as originally planned," United spokesman Rahsaan Johnson said.
- FNT-ORD (3x daily), ERI-ORD (2x daily) (Starts June 5)
- IAD-PKB, IAD-DUJ (3x daily) by 3M (Silver Airways, codeshare with UA, but not UAX) (Starts Oct 1)
Eliminated UA service: DUJ, PKB (now serviced by 3M, Silver Airways, a codeshare partner of UA, not a UAX carrier, Per gusd (Post #898))
Possible eliminated UA service: BFD, FKL, JHW
Per SteveHK screenshot (Post #75):
Nonstop service kept:
Seasonal service kept: CUN, CHS, NAS, SJU
Discrepancies:
- MIA & PWM not mentioned in Cleveland Airport System press release, but mentioned in the screenshot.
New peak day departures: 72 (-64%, from 199)
New peak day nonstop destinations: 20 (-66%, from 58)
New peak day seats: 6,121 (-51%, from 12,384)
New schedule: From @United (twitter) interaction with Surface Interval : We’ll be reducing flights in Cleveland beginning in April, with the new schedule available starting Feb. 8, 2014. And should be complete by Feb. 11, 2014, according to this mass e-mail from UA: "Over the next several days, we will be updating our flight schedules, which could result in changes to the flight times for your trip. If that does happen, we will send you an email with an updated itinerary on or before February 11. You may also review your itinerary any time at united.com."
Press Conference called regarding United’s future at CLE [Good night Cleveland...]
Feb 1, 2014, 3:40 pm
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I'll miss connecting at CLE myself. In 2007 when I was CO Gold and commuting between PHX and BOS, PHX-CLE-BOS was my preferred way to do it, especially as CO had a PHX-CLE redeye that was an easy upgrade.
That said, I wonder if CLE-RDU will stick around. I doubt it.
That said, I wonder if CLE-RDU will stick around. I doubt it.
Feb 1, 2014, 3:42 pm
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Since I live in the Cleveland area and fly every week for work this is a bummer. Granted my current contract has me flying to LGA every Monday but previous places I've been to I assume will be connecting flights (STL).
Feb 1, 2014, 3:44 pm
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Feb 1, 2014, 3:48 pm
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Feb 1, 2014, 3:50 pm
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It is an easy airport and the employees are just wonderful. Even today they didn't let the SMI/J letter damper their customer care or their attitudes.
Seen more and more since merger more Barbie Jets which suck. Used to be 5-6 flights a day, in bigger planes, and they were full. Summer especially.
Again just sucks.
Feb 1, 2014, 3:51 pm
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Off twitter: @MarkZinni: New quote from @united to #FOX8News: "Cleveland will be our largest non-hub city, but not a hub."
Feb 1, 2014, 3:55 pm
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so down to 20 destinations, including hubs
so that means IAH, DEN, ORD, IAD, EWR, SFO
Also mentioned LGA, DCA, BOS, FLL, MCO, TPA, RSW
That leaves only 7 other lucky cities to get service from CLE.
so that means IAH, DEN, ORD, IAD, EWR, SFO
Also mentioned LGA, DCA, BOS, FLL, MCO, TPA, RSW
That leaves only 7 other lucky cities to get service from CLE.
Feb 1, 2014, 3:58 pm
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Press Conference called regarding United’s future at CLE
2B in cuts has to come from somewhere.
Sad that my friends from back home will blame this on 'United' when it is CO all over it!
Sad that my friends from back home will blame this on 'United' when it is CO all over it!
Feb 1, 2014, 3:58 pm
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I do a lot of flying EWR-CMH, half the time stopping in CLE. If this means more direct EWR-CMH (even if it's on the dash-8) that'll work for me.
The people in CLE are lovely, but honestly, it's just been a steppingstone to CMH for me for a long time.
The people in CLE are lovely, but honestly, it's just been a steppingstone to CMH for me for a long time.
Feb 1, 2014, 4:03 pm
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IAH - CLE 2-3x a year as I own a summer home on Lake Erie in Sandusky. I have biz in GSP and Charleston WV which connect thru here and I do the connect for extra miles and/or long weekend in Sandusky. Can also go to Cancun or Montreal. Took a bump once in SJU that routed me thru CLE.
It is an easy airport and the employees are just wonderful. Even today they didn't let the SMI/J letter damper their customer care or their attitudes.
Seen more and more since merger more Barbie Jets which suck. Used to be 5-6 flights a day, in bigger planes, and they were full. Summer especially.
Again just sucks.
It is an easy airport and the employees are just wonderful. Even today they didn't let the SMI/J letter damper their customer care or their attitudes.
Seen more and more since merger more Barbie Jets which suck. Used to be 5-6 flights a day, in bigger planes, and they were full. Summer especially.
Again just sucks.
Boasting the largest fleet of CRJ200s...
Feb 1, 2014, 4:04 pm
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This was nothing unexpected. RJ hubs in mid-sized markets just don't work anymore. We've seen it time an time again.
Feb 1, 2014, 4:05 pm
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In CLE right now, employees speaking softly about it. I overheard a bit, asked what was going on. They did not want to discuss with a non-airline employee. This shows true professionalism.
As someone who flies thru CLE 6-8 times a year I hate to hear this. The employees are truly outstanding and have worked hard and been bright spots for many years.
The decrease in flights has already taken its' toll on packed flights and very high fares. I really hate to hear this is happening in CLE. Tho old thread pops to mind "doesn't look good for CLE" seems to be a forecast of things to come.
Dangit.
As someone who flies thru CLE 6-8 times a year I hate to hear this. The employees are truly outstanding and have worked hard and been bright spots for many years.
The decrease in flights has already taken its' toll on packed flights and very high fares. I really hate to hear this is happening in CLE. Tho old thread pops to mind "doesn't look good for CLE" seems to be a forecast of things to come.
Dangit.
But for those of us that are primarily leisure travel doing transcons or international we've been connecting for a while now and maybe there will be a bit of competition coming in now to give us some cost control.