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Old Jan 30, 2014, 10:31 am
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How many PQD do you think you'll spend to retain last year's status?

Hi,

Now that we've been using the new PQD system for a month, I have a much better idea how many dollars I'll spend to retain my status.

Last year I was Platinum and I'll have no problem traveling 75K miles again. PQD-wise, however is different story.

I'm only averaging about 6 cents per mile so I will end up spending over $10K if I want to keep my status!

Anyone else have projections/estimates?

This PQD thing is a genius invention from United's perspective. If I do hit $10K then I'll probably just do a mileage run and get 1K getting them even more $$$$!
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Old Jan 30, 2014, 10:37 am
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Huh? Are you saying that your seeing PQDs at only 75% of gross fare? I.e., that you are paying that much in taxes? You only need to spend $7500 + taxes to make the PQD hurdle for Plat no matter what your cpm is. You may fly a lot more than 75K miles to do it though. Not sure what you are saying here. Sounds to me like you will need to fly 125K PQMs if you indeed are yielding 6cpm and you will spend $7500 + tax.
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Old Jan 30, 2014, 10:43 am
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Last year 46K PQM's and $8.6K PQD. As I will be Gold anyways I don't worry about PQD and with the spend if I actually got the miles I would easily be Plat. Already $2.7K PQD on 10K PQM's this year. But my normal region is much too small to get 75K PQM's and only get a random international trip when another region needs help.
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Old Jan 30, 2014, 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by pdx1M
Huh? Are you saying that your seeing PQDs at only 75% of gross fare? I.e., that you are paying that much in taxes? You only need to spend $7500 + taxes to make the PQD hurdle for Plat no matter what your cpm is. You may fly a lot more than 75K miles to do it though. Not sure what you are saying here. Sounds to me like you will need to fly 125K PQMs if you indeed are yielding 6cpm and you will spend $7500 + tax.
To re-qualify for Platinum this year I need to travel 75K miles and spend $7500. This requires spending 10 cents per mile. The 10 cents per mile rule holds for all levels of status.

However, based on my experiences so far I'm only spending 6 cents a miles. Hence I estimate I will spend 75,000 / $0.06 = more than $10,000.

Does that make sense?
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Old Jan 30, 2014, 10:56 am
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Originally Posted by inpd
To re-qualify for Platinum this year I need to travel 75K miles and spend $7500. This requires spending 10 cents per mile. The 10 cents per mile rule holds for all levels of status.

However, based on my experiences so far I'm only spending 6 cents a miles. Hence I estimate I will spend 75,000 / $0.06 = more than $10,000.

Does that make sense?
It should read $7500 / $0.06 = X PQM's = 125,000 miles

So you need to fly 125,000 miles at your spend to get Platinum.
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Old Jan 30, 2014, 10:58 am
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Originally Posted by Baze
It should read $7500 / $0.06 = X PQM's = 125,000 miles

So you need to fly 125,000 miles at your spend to get Platinum.
Okay. That's another way at looking at it I guess. But I was more thinking about how much I spend, not fly, since I have a limited travel budget.
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Old Jan 30, 2014, 11:02 am
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I'll be at ~25K PQM and $5000 PQD by the end of feb, (even with a wideroe flight to europe in there) should requal fairly easily by year end
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Old Jan 30, 2014, 11:03 am
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Okay. That's another way at looking at it I guess. But I was more thinking about how much I spend, not fly, since I have a limited travel budget.
But you wrote 75000 / 0.06 which = 1,250,000 which is meaningless. If you spend $10,000 at $0.06 per mile you will have flown 166,667 miles thus you would be a 1K, not platinum.

Or, if you do only fly 75000 miles and spend only $0.06 per mile then you will have spent $4500 and you would only be Silver.
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But you wrote 75000 / 0.06 which = 1,250,000 which is meaningless.
Not quite meaningless! 1,250,000 cents is $12,500.
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Originally Posted by inpd
To re-qualify for Platinum this year I need to travel 75K miles and spend $7500. This requires spending 10 cents per mile. The 10 cents per mile rule holds for all levels of status.
The 10 cents per mile "rule" is really only relevant if you fly exactly the minimum PQM required of that status level.

For example, you say you'll easily hit the plat mileage threshold. So I assume you're not hitting exactly 75,000 miles. If you fly 90,000 miles during the year, as an example, the $ qualifier stays at $7500. That means you have to average ~8.34 cents per mile to hit that $ threshold, not 10 cents.
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Old Jan 30, 2014, 11:15 am
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Not quite meaningless! 1,250,000 cents is $12,500.
But your units don't work out with the way you are doing it. That would be 1,250,000 miles squared/$, not $12,500, thus meaningless.
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Old Jan 30, 2014, 11:23 am
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Originally Posted by inpd
To re-qualify for Platinum this year I need to travel 75K miles and spend $7500. This requires spending 10 cents per mile. The 10 cents per mile rule holds for all levels of status.

However, based on my experiences so far I'm only spending 6 cents a miles. Hence I estimate I will spend 75,000 / $0.06 = more than $10,000.

Does that make sense?
No, it doesn't make sense. To meet PQD, you must spend at least $7500 (exclusive of taxes + fees) to make your Plat status. You will spend at least $7500 to make Plat, period. At your spend rate, you will have to fly 125k miles to reach that spend. That's the *only* way of looking at it.
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Old Jan 30, 2014, 11:30 am
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Originally Posted by inpd
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However, based on my experiences so far I'm only spending 6 cents a miles. Hence I estimate I will spend 75,000 / $0.06 = more than $10,000.

Does that make sense?
as other have pointed out your math is bad

If you are doing 75K miles @ 6 PQcpm (of eligible dollars) you will be at $4,500 PQDs or $3,000 dollars short. (be aware the cpm has to be after the removal of taxes and non-carrier imposed fees)

How you make up the gap is the issue.
1) You will have to purchase higher fares;
2) or you will have fly more miles;
3) or get credit card / international waiver.
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Old Jan 30, 2014, 11:33 am
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If you spend $10k at 6cpm you'll have flown 166,000 miles and would be 1k.

Agree with the other posters; your math is a little backwards.
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Old Jan 30, 2014, 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by juniorsu
If you spend $10k at 6cpm you'll have flown 166,000 miles and would be 1k.

Agree with the other posters; your math is a little backwards.
Indeed, the thread should be retitled:
How many PQMs do you think you'll need to retain last year's status?
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