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This thread to follow reports of MP accounts that actually have been hacked / improperly accessed. If you have missing miles and beleive you have been hacked, contact [email protected]
In Suspended MP Accounts / Third Party Vendor "Security Breach?" - Dec 2014 there is discussion of a security breach of a 3rd party that UA seems to believe may lead to inappropriate access to UA accounts via the username method of logging into united.com. Let's follow the breach and log-in changes in the above thread.
A separate(?) "access denied" issue is covered in Consolidated " Is united.com or parts of it Down?" thread
In Suspended MP Accounts / Third Party Vendor "Security Breach?" - Dec 2014 there is discussion of a security breach of a 3rd party that UA seems to believe may lead to inappropriate access to UA accounts via the username method of logging into united.com. Let's follow the breach and log-in changes in the above thread.
A separate(?) "access denied" issue is covered in Consolidated " Is united.com or parts of it Down?" thread
UA Account Hacked / Reports of Fraudulent Award Travel Redemption
#91
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Programs: UA-1k, 1mm, Marriott-LT Platinum, Hertz-Presidents Circle
Posts: 6,355
To pay the taxes did they use your CC? If so you will file a fraudulent charge claim I'm sure.
#92
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: CLE
Programs: UA 1K MM, DL Plat
Posts: 982
But what taxes would be charged for donated miles?? Checked my cc, and no pending charges appear. If there is some kind of tax due for this sort of transaction, finding out how it WAS paid may give a pretty good indication of how this happened.
#93
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Programs: UA-1k, 1mm, Marriott-LT Platinum, Hertz-Presidents Circle
Posts: 6,355
Changed my password first thing - even before I picked up the phone to call them.
But what taxes would be charged for donated miles?? Checked my cc, and no pending charges appear. If there is some kind of tax due for this sort of transaction, finding out how it WAS paid may give a pretty good indication of how this happened.
But what taxes would be charged for donated miles?? Checked my cc, and no pending charges appear. If there is some kind of tax due for this sort of transaction, finding out how it WAS paid may give a pretty good indication of how this happened.
#95
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: CLE
Programs: UA 1K MM, DL Plat
Posts: 982
Closing the loop on this one, for anyone who's interested.
Got a very generic "here's your miles back" letter from a MP Service Director. No explanation, no apology - just literally one line.
So I called in. Got a lovely agent who pulled up the account, confirmed that my miles had been re-credited, and looked at the case that had been filed.
I had filed a credit request some weeks back for a (no relation to the current problems) Air China segment that I flew while in Asia. Turns out that an agent "in the same center" as the agent who corrected that situation deducted the miles on the same day that they corrected my credit posting. Almost certainly the same person. Seems to be simple human error where they must have been trying to do something else, but still had my account open on their screen, instead of whomever they were supposed to be working with.
All's well that ends well, but yet another instance of a lack of attention to detail in this organization.
Got a very generic "here's your miles back" letter from a MP Service Director. No explanation, no apology - just literally one line.
So I called in. Got a lovely agent who pulled up the account, confirmed that my miles had been re-credited, and looked at the case that had been filed.
I had filed a credit request some weeks back for a (no relation to the current problems) Air China segment that I flew while in Asia. Turns out that an agent "in the same center" as the agent who corrected that situation deducted the miles on the same day that they corrected my credit posting. Almost certainly the same person. Seems to be simple human error where they must have been trying to do something else, but still had my account open on their screen, instead of whomever they were supposed to be working with.
All's well that ends well, but yet another instance of a lack of attention to detail in this organization.
#96
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: USA
Programs: AA, Hyatt, Marriott
Posts: 57
MileagePlus Account fraud
Today (5/27) I found out someone use my MP account to purchase a standard award flight on UA from KSA-HNL on 5/26 and already completed the trip on 5/26.
UA agent claim it was my fault to gave away my login and password which I didn't obviously. I have never received an award redemption receipt from nor notified by UA of this award redemption. I have the passenger name and last four of his/her visa card, what are my recourse to have UA investigate this issue and possibly file charges against this person?
If I were to file a police report, should I file in my home state or call HNL airport police?
UA agent claim it was my fault to gave away my login and password which I didn't obviously. I have never received an award redemption receipt from nor notified by UA of this award redemption. I have the passenger name and last four of his/her visa card, what are my recourse to have UA investigate this issue and possibly file charges against this person?
If I were to file a police report, should I file in my home state or call HNL airport police?
#97
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Programs: DL Platinum, AA Lifetime Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Platinum, Radisson Premium
Posts: 6,638
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 7_1_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/537.51.2 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.0 Mobile/11D201 Safari/9537.53)
For UA to blame the victim here seems just a tad outrageous.
For UA to blame the victim here seems just a tad outrageous.
#98
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Jersey Shore/YYZ
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Plat, Hilton Diamond, Hertz PC
Posts: 12,521
Are you indicating someone booked and flew KSA to HNL the same day?
Why would you get a receipt or notification, if the person had your info and could easily move that notification e-mail to themselves? Not sure what you're implying there.
You have no recourse for UA to do anything against the person - UA suffered no harm. It's not like a credit card company where you can dispute the redemption.
I also don't see what the airline police in HNL have to do with it. Fraud should be reported locally.
Why would you get a receipt or notification, if the person had your info and could easily move that notification e-mail to themselves? Not sure what you're implying there.
You have no recourse for UA to do anything against the person - UA suffered no harm. It's not like a credit card company where you can dispute the redemption.
I also don't see what the airline police in HNL have to do with it. Fraud should be reported locally.
#99
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Jersey Shore/YYZ
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Plat, Hilton Diamond, Hertz PC
Posts: 12,521
Without listening to the conversation, it's only hearsay that UA "blamed" anyone.
#102
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: USA
Programs: AA, Hyatt, Marriott
Posts: 57
Yes, someone booked and flew the same day. UA will obviously have this persons full info, but they claim he/she must have my access to book the ticket.
I am actually surprised how little UA was willing to help consider my status with them.
I am actually surprised how little UA was willing to help consider my status with them.
Are you indicating someone booked and flew KSA to HNL the same day?
Why would you get a receipt or notification, if the person had your info and could easily move that notification e-mail to themselves? Not sure what you're implying there.
You have no recourse for UA to do anything against the person - UA suffered no harm. It's not like a credit card company where you can dispute the redemption.
I also don't see what the airline police in HNL have to do with it. Fraud should be reported locally.
Why would you get a receipt or notification, if the person had your info and could easily move that notification e-mail to themselves? Not sure what you're implying there.
You have no recourse for UA to do anything against the person - UA suffered no harm. It's not like a credit card company where you can dispute the redemption.
I also don't see what the airline police in HNL have to do with it. Fraud should be reported locally.
#103
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS
Posts: 15,027
#104
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Jersey Shore/YYZ
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Plat, Hilton Diamond, Hertz PC
Posts: 12,521
No full physical or mailing address is needed for award redemption. Even if they did somehow have it, they're not giving it to you.
I am not defending UA at all, but you need to know what UA has/doesn't have and not make assumptions.
If you're done with contacting MPSC, call the police. (Personally, I'd call UA back, start with fraud, and force them to do something - many ways of making agents do more).
#105
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: USA
Programs: AA, Hyatt, Marriott
Posts: 57
I suppose UA must have this persons ID when checking in? This is on UA metal btw.
All UA would have is a name, e-mail address and passport.
No full physical or mailing address is needed for award redemption. Even if they did somehow have it, they're not giving it to you.
I am not defending UA at all, but you need to know what UA has/doesn't have and not make assumptions.
No full physical or mailing address is needed for award redemption. Even if they did somehow have it, they're not giving it to you.
I am not defending UA at all, but you need to know what UA has/doesn't have and not make assumptions.