drewguy

Also wondering - if you don't fly a ticket, and don't cancel it for later use, do you get the PQDs?

Whatever we think of the PQD requirement, at least United has changed the website and iPhone app to be transparent as to what you've accumulated (or they think, at that point in time, you've accumulated).

drowelf

Well I already have noticed a glitch as regarded to this. I bought a ticket on 12/30 for travel in 2014. The Final Screen after buying the ticket shows the purchase summary.

1 Adult - 664.86
Taxes/Fees - 91.30

But .....

Yesterday I viewed my actual receipt for the flight and it shows different values in the Fare Information breakdown.

Airfare 618.74
Taxes 137.69

The difference is exactly the amount for the Federal Transportation Tax of 46.39.

In the screen displayed right after purchase this is included in Airfare Portion and not the Taxes/Fees.

On the Purchase Summary Screen the Taxes/Fees is a hyperlink, but I did not follow it then. I'll have to try on my next purchase to see what it displays on the Taxes/Fees details.

I'm wondering if not presenting the correct Taxes/Fees on the Purchase Summary is any kind of violation of the DOT regulations pertaining to Fare Displays?

And of course the only reason I noticed, is that I'm tracking my own PQD Spend on the Spreadsheet I use to keep UA honest (CPUs/Mileage/TSA PRE, Equipment, etc.).

So I guess the moral of this story is to always check your actual receipt for PQDs.

Happy New Year

DelrayChris

Starting over at $0.00. Will be an interesting year to say the least.

Looks like UA also updated the qualification chart a little:

LarkSFO

"Move back during the year" - Ha, that's a good one!

Follow the conversation as it develops in this thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...es-2014-a.html

At this point, United has not made it clear if there will be any way to earn PQD's through an Elite Maximizer type purchase.

Mods - maybe lock the 2013 thread to new postings?

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...2013-a-58.html

Xyzzy

I would not expect to see that. The PQM calculation at purchase time is far easier, yet that is often displayed incorrectly.
I'm sure UA is tracking that information even if it is not being displayed. i think that displaying it would only serve to confuse customers.

I think they're looking to cut off the low hanging fruit with the whole PQD thing and that they really are after customers with a much higher spend than what the cutoffs are. For that reason alone I'd say that selling PQD is extremely unlikely.

You earn PQD when you fly a qualifying paid segment, not when you buy or abandon a ticket

I guess we'll have to see how accurate the purchase screen quotes are. I'm tracking my purchases as well. As far as the DT is concerned, I thought the airlines are required to display the entire price and that any breakdown is the just the airline trying to show how much of the price consists of taxes.

dinoscool3

Flying back home today/tomorrow, this being a return for a trip that we flew in Dec. Will be interested to see if half the airfare get's posted as PQDs because all segments were flown after the first.

halls120

Let's consider 2 customers.

#1 flies 100,000 miles in 2014, and spends $10,001.00 in PQD. #2 flies 80,000 in 2014, spends $8,000 in PQD, and purchases 20,001 PQM miles that cost $2,001.00. Customer #1 spent $10,001.00 with United, and Customer #2 spent $10,001.00 with United.

Why is customer #2 "low hanging fruit" when his/her spend was the same as customer #1? Since customer #2 didn't occupy 20,000 miles worth of seat, enabling UA to sell that seat to someone else, isn't customer #2 more beneficial to UA's bottom line?

mahasamatman

If you're willing to do that, why not just buy a higher fare class? It has the same effect.

WineCountryUA

works as intended and as it has for awhile

This relates to the 7.5% excise tax

We been around the block with this discussion in http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-web-site.html

Thoughts were some of this is related to DoT pricing requirements. The final receipt is correct.

Xyzzy

PQDs will post along with the segments flown. Any qualifying segments for flights taken in 2014 will pst PQD regardless of when the tickets were purchased and what other segments are on the ticket.

I don't disagree with you at all but I think UA would tell you that they'd rather save the status for someone who spent even mre.

transportbiz

I looked this morning too, and was very disappointed at the lack of transparency in the process. When you book a ticket it does not show you what PQD's you will earn for that flight before you finalize the purchase. Since Delta does do this, I have to give them more credit toward being upfront with the nonsensical idea of dollar tracking for qualification.

I still feel strongly, that if a revenue component of qualification was necessary (and I'm not arguing that it was not necessary) it would have been far more simple to limit PQM's on certain fare buckets. The strategy below would be so much better than the methodology of hocus pocus, abracadabra, black art juju.

On N maybe you only earn 25% for example, on G 30%, on K 35% on L 40% and T 45% and on S 50%. finally, on W you would get your 100% PQM qualification as this fare is also required for international upgrade using an instrument. This method would have been so much easier for everyone to track, AND it would have been a unique approach rather that just mimicking a competitor, and then executing it poorly.

demkr

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In my view, United is intentionally being vague and untransparent about it. Question is why?

golfingboy

Agreed ^

And they can make it all consistent for all partners earnings.

WineCountryUA

and neither does it show (correctly in all cases) the number of PQMs or RDMs. We learned to live with that (unhappily)

That seems a far more complicated approach. From what I can tell so far is the PQD approach (using the receipt as a source of information) is going to be relatively easily job to track.

Yes change is a pain (anger, denial and resistance is understandable) but I think after a few months we will all be in the groove on tracking this. Could have other ways have been used yes, but at least two major players in the industry have picked this way and it is likely to stick. You can complain, you can invent other ways --- but you better get comfortable with this one because it is here, now.

sriki

I am one of those unique cases who actually has a permanent residence outside USA, but living in USA temporarily for many years now. I logged in this morning to check out the website and was confused as I did not see the PQD line. I logged back and forth and to see if that gets fixed and then when I looked at my address it was showing my non-US address. I thought I had my current US address on there (maybe I changed it a while back and forgot, but, I cannot recall doing it). Now, I'm contemplating changing it to my US address so I can have a accurate(trusting United) representation of my PQD, but, wondering if there are any cons to "moving back to USA"