Complimentary Beer/Wine Discontinued Jan 1, 2014 for transpacific/asia flights
Dec 22, 13, 10:33 pm
#181
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But here's an honest question for airline folks to ponder: Aside from the possibility that a loss of even one revenue seat per flight eliminates the cost savings completely, doesn't the free distribution of a little alcohol help the bottom line in other ways?
Perhaps people are more comfortable with free drinks and 1" less pitch, allowing a full row more seats per plane. Or maybe a couple drinks and they don't notice the cheaper food or the lack of IFE. Wouldn't a little wine SAVE an airline $ because it extends the life of their old worn out Y seats?
Perhaps people are more comfortable with free drinks and 1" less pitch, allowing a full row more seats per plane. Or maybe a couple drinks and they don't notice the cheaper food or the lack of IFE. Wouldn't a little wine SAVE an airline $ because it extends the life of their old worn out Y seats?
Dec 23, 13, 6:23 am
#182
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Originally Posted by danville 1K
Please don't! You're just giving them more ideas.....
Dec 23, 13, 2:06 pm
#183
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Originally Posted by Denver Enzo
Perhaps people are more comfortable with free drinks and 1" less pitch, allowing a full row more seats per plane. Or maybe a couple drinks and they don't notice the cheaper food or the lack of IFE. ....
Dec 23, 13, 2:46 pm
#184
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Originally Posted by Silver Fox
I remember when they brought it in, without any announcement that I noticed, for a TATL flight that I started in December (free drinks) and returned in January (not free) and just thought they are nickel and diming. The problem for me is I am 1K and cannot be bothered to start again with another airline so it does not deter me. I just think it is cheap and is just another part of the race to the bottom.
Dec 23, 13, 2:58 pm
#185
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I hope they dont do it. They dont know what they are losing. It could drive away many Asian customers, especially Japanese. Once the word spreads, yields/loads could suffer. There are other ways to save money, may be increase the oneway redemptions by 10%, DL does not even have oneway redemptions.
Dec 23, 13, 3:41 pm
#186
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It seems to me that if all these predictions about United losing customers are true, the company will go under and merge with Delta or AA. I wonder how many people here would view that as a win?!
Dec 23, 13, 3:51 pm
#187
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Originally Posted by maskedmesothorium
It seems to me that if all these predictions about United losing customers are true, the company will go under and merge with Delta or AA. I wonder how many people here would view that as a win?!
Dec 23, 13, 4:09 pm
#188
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Originally Posted by invisible
Guys, honestly, you think UA's management is so dumb that they can't figure out this on their own?
Dec 23, 13, 4:55 pm
#189
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sorry but does this affect micronesia flights?
(japan guam
guam manila etc)
thanks
(japan guam
guam manila etc)
thanks
Dec 23, 13, 5:52 pm
#190
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Originally Posted by invisible
Guys, honestly, you think UA's management is so dumb that they can't figure out this on their own? Don't be such naive please...
Dec 24, 13, 2:59 am
#191
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Originally Posted by kettle1
My question. Why does anyone still "choose" UA? Why?
Rational fliers should estimate the number of ill-advised drinks they will consume on the flight, multiply by $8, add that to the price of the ticket, and then make their purchasing decision.
I don't see many people doing that much drinking on flights anymore. And are people really saying that HVFs would really get in a huff about free sub-par alcohol? I'd more likely imagine that what HVFs really want is the ability to buy top-shelf alcohol on-board.
Dec 24, 13, 3:23 am
#192
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I would like free alcohol. The problem I have is that it is just nickel and diming. Is it enough to make me leave, good lord no. Does that make it a "sensible business decision" because "no-one's leaving"....of course not. It's a bit like a crash happening and someone saying "well no-one died". So that's alright then.
Dec 24, 13, 4:53 am
#193
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Originally Posted by lensman
Because shrill hyperbole aside, very few people will actually make carrier decisions based on whether there is free alcohol served in Y.
). Quite a few of them requested to fly TATL on AB (Air Berlin - oneWorld carrier, but also partially owned by Etihad) only because booze (including hard booze) is for free.
Dec 24, 13, 9:57 pm
#194
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I see what you did there! 
Originally Posted by kale73
The ethical path would be to steer those passengers who express a need to drink to AA. :-:
Dec 25, 13, 4:50 am
#195
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Originally Posted by bryanwallace
sorry but does this affect micronesia flights?
(japan guam
guam manila etc)
thanks
(japan guam
guam manila etc)
thanks
