Maximum hours that a flight crew can fly
 

This week I went on UA 1035 from IAH to UIO and can right back on UA 1036 to IAH , I had the same plane crew we just had 70 minutes between flights.
It's 5 hours down and 5 hours return is a lot of time for a crew to be in 737 , also the flight leaves at 5 pm and comes back at 5 am.
Not even CM does that with all their flights to South America that are 5 hours they change crews

I believe this is one of the differences between the PMCO and PMUA FA contracts. PMCO allows FAs to do turns, where PMUA did not, in regards to transcons, and long haul flights.

A lot of other airlines do this, too. B6 allows their crews to do turns on nearly all transcons.

I suspect those trips go out pretty senior too. It's a long duty day, but those same-day turns are popular as they allow flight attendants to return home after a very productive day, instead of two less-productive days around an overnight stay in a foreign hotel.

As for the pilots, new duty requirements going into effect more or less mandate an overnight rest period for such trips unless the crew is augmented.

Only partially true - there are some domestic turns for sUA that are out there, such as SFO/LAX-Hawaii and they are very popular for maximizing pay most efficiently and sleeping in your own bed at night. However, maximum domestic duty time for sUA FAs on the current contract is 14.5 hours (13 hours if starting after 7pm and working overnight); and it is 16 hours on the sCO contract. Duty time includes checkin, briefing, boarding, scheduled flight time, and debriefing ... so under the Quito example above it's within CO guidelines. sUA F/As may be scheduled for a maximum of 8 segments per duty period, sCO does not have that limit (i.e. you could be scheduled to do Newark-Boston turns all day).

International has different limits.

It's a 12hr 26min duty day for those crews. Start at 4:34p off duty by 6 the next morning. Well within our contractual limits. I'm sCO international and our duty time is 16 hours scheduled 17:30 actual. On non-stop flights scheduled over 12 hours, we may be scheduled to a maximum of the combination check-in time, scheduled flight time and debriefing time. Our actual duty time can exceed 3:30, but we cannot exceed 19 hours on duty. Our longest duty day is EWR - HKG scheduled in at 17:45 this is check-in, scheduled flight time and debriefing.

Would you happen to know how long the Island Hopper flights are from check-in, scheduled flight time, and debriefing? I was chatting with some of the former air mike f/a's who mentioned that as of right now the most senior of the former air mike f/a's work this route in both directions. They're "untouchable" routes to bid on for the junior former air mike f/a's. :)

On the way to HNL it's 16 hours, on the way back to GUM it's 15:05. This is including check-in, scheduled flight time, and debriefing.

At what point would you go into OT? And how much of a turn do you need so you don't start the next day in OT?

Thank you

What about BOM-EWR (or DEL-EWR) isn't that longer?

Both EWR - HKG and BOM - EWR have the same duty period. At base cities we check-in 1hr 15min prior to departure for widebody and 757 flights, 1 hour prior to departure for 737s. Layover points check-in is 1 hour prior to departure for widebody and 757 flights, 737s check-in is 45 minutes prior to departure. So from EWR on our long haul flights our duty times are

EWR - HKG
Check - In/brief 2:20p
Departure 3:35p
Arrival 8:35p
Debrief 9:05p
17:45 from check-in to debrief

EWR - NRT
Check - In/brief 9:20a
Departure 10:35a
Arrival 2:45p
Debrief 3:15p
15:55 from check-in to debrief

EWR - PVG
Check - In/brief 8:50a
Departure 10:05a
Arrival 2:05p
Debrief 2:35p
16:45 from check-in to debrief

EWR - PEK
Check - In/brief 10:55a
Departure 12:10p
Arrival 3:00p
Debrief 3:30p
15:35 from check-in to debrief

EWR - TLV 1st flight
Check - In 2:35p
Departure 3:50p
Arrival 9:20a
Debrief 9:50a
12:15 from check-in to debrief

EWR - TLV 2nd flight
Check - In 9:30p
Departure 10:45p
Arrival 4:20p
Debrief 4:50p
12:20 from check-in to debrief

EWR - BOM
Check - In 6:55p
Departure 8:10p
Arrival 9:40p
Debrief 10:10p
16:45 from check-in to debrief

EWR - DEL
Check - In 7:25p
Departure 8:40p
Arrival 9:20p
Debrief 9:50p
15:55 from check-in to debrief

HKG - EWR
Check - In 10:25a
Departure 11:25a
Arrival 1:50p
Debrief 2:20p
16:55 from check-in to debrief

NRT - EWR
Check- In 4:45p
Departure 5:45p
Arrival 4:30p
Debrief 5:00p
13:50 from check-in to debrief

PVG - EWR
Check - In 3:30p
Departure 4:30p
Arrival 5:55p
Debrief 6:25p
15:55 from check-in to debrief

PEK - EWR
Check - In 4:00p
Departure 5:00p
Arrival 5:55p
Debrief 6:25p
15:25 from check - in to debrief

TLV - EWR 1st flight
Check - In 10:20a
Departure 11:20a
Arrival 4:40p
Debrief 5:10p
13:50 from check - in to debrief

TLV - EWR 2nd flight
Check - In 10:10p
Departure 11:10p
Arrival 4:30a
Debrief 5:00a
13:50 from check - in to debrief

BOM - EWR
Check - In 10:40p
Departure 11:40p
Arrival 5:25a
Debrief 5:55a
17:45 from check - in to debrief

DEL - EWR
Check - In 10:35p
Departure 11:35p
Arrival 4:45a
DeBrief 5:15a
17:10 from check - in to debrief

So EWR - HKG, BOM - EWR is our longest duty period for a flight. Thought BOM - EWR was a little bit less though.

What does debrief usually consist of?

For that Quito flight the crew I believe would have to be in the air by around 2 so they won't have to overnight the crew in Quito, for an EWR - HKG. The crew would have to be in the air by I believe 6:30 or so before we would be pulled off and replaced with another crew. Now if we arrived in a city late and were scheduled to work a flight out the next morning the flight would be delayed for crew rest issues. Example a layover is scheduled to be 8:45, but the inbound flight arrived 1 hour late, so the next flight they work would be delayed so the crew would get their required rest. This is of course is just an example reserves have different rest periods then lineholders. Now for how many hours a FA works all depends on their schedule. Some will work the 83 hours, some less, some more.