Is Ch11 unavoidable for UA next year?
Dec 14, 2013, 6:02 pm
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Dec 14, 2013, 6:20 pm
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As it is 2013 now, all airlines, including UA, are flying high. We won't see Ch11 for a major airlines for quite awhile.
wait..i see what the OP is saying about the all time low
)http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=U...rce=undefined;
Dec 14, 2013, 6:35 pm
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Incorrect.
Correct.
But facts are so boring compared to hyperbole.
Well-said.
Exceedingly tiresome, isn't it?
Once again, over-stated hyperbole. True on some routes. Not true on others.
No. Or was that an attempt at some sort of humor? 
Begs the question.
But facts are so boring compared to hyperbole.
I have never seen a less productive or balanced forum on FlyerTalk than this one since the merger.
Once again, over-stated hyperbole. True on some routes. Not true on others.
Begs the question.
Dec 14, 2013, 6:35 pm
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wait..i see what the OP is saying about the all time low )
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=U...rce=undefined;
)http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=U...rce=undefined;
"Here's why United was just named America's worst airline"
http://www.dailyfinance.com/on/unite...-toilet-paper/
"In a week that saw United Airlines (UAL) place dead last in a customer service ranking of the major airlines, a picture surfaced that gives some idea of how the airline earned that dubious distinction.
A member of travel forum FlyerTalk posted this picture, which he says he snapped in the lavatory of a United Airlines flight."
Dec 14, 2013, 6:38 pm
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Dec 14, 2013, 6:48 pm
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Dec 14, 2013, 6:52 pm
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THAT is question-begging and tendentious, unless you are seriously prepared to give evidence and argue for United's service, offerings, product, seating, etc., etc., being akin to, say, Spirit.
United is trying to carve out some interesting ways forward, but it's hardly doing so as an LCC imitator.
United is trying to carve out some interesting ways forward, but it's hardly doing so as an LCC imitator.
Dec 14, 2013, 6:53 pm
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Didn't NW try that? They had an enviable international network (particularly strong in Asia) but its premium products were a complete joke. NW didn't survive and DL went out of its way within the first year of the merger to wipe out the NW image.
Dec 14, 2013, 6:56 pm
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For some historical perspective, read the wikipedia summary of TWA's history. It took far more bad decisions to drive that one into the ground than UA will ever make.
Dec 14, 2013, 7:01 pm
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UA can underperform its rivals indefinitely. The question asked in this thread is whether UA will go bankrupt in 2014. Of course, not! It is currently profitable, and probably has plenty of resources on its balance sheet to survive a string of actual money-losing quarters.
For some historical perspective, read the wikipedia summary of TWA's history. It took far more bad decisions to drive that one into the ground than UA will ever make.
For some historical perspective, read the wikipedia summary of TWA's history. It took far more bad decisions to drive that one into the ground than UA will ever make.
In the airline industry, anything is possible. Pan Am went under even when it once was the world's greatest airline. UA already had to terminate pension plans to survive and now it will compete head to head with two airlines in one that have long despised it.
Dec 14, 2013, 7:04 pm
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Not confused at all...try and have a little humor )...don't be so defensive on every posters comment ...
You did title this ..CH 11 unavoidable? for a company that is close to a 6 year high and in the same post you mention "all time low"
If wall street had your opinion, the stock would reflect that..
)...don't be so defensive on every posters comment ...You did title this ..CH 11 unavoidable? for a company that is close to a 6 year high and in the same post you mention "all time low"
If wall street had your opinion, the stock would reflect that..
You are quite confused regarding what I meant by an all-time low:
"Here's why United was just named America's worst airline"
http://www.dailyfinance.com/on/unite...-toilet-paper/
"In a week that saw United Airlines (UAL) place dead last in a customer service ranking of the major airlines, a picture surfaced that gives some idea of how the airline earned that dubious distinction.
A member of travel forum FlyerTalk posted this picture, which he says he snapped in the lavatory of a United Airlines flight."
"Here's why United was just named America's worst airline"
http://www.dailyfinance.com/on/unite...-toilet-paper/
"In a week that saw United Airlines (UAL) place dead last in a customer service ranking of the major airlines, a picture surfaced that gives some idea of how the airline earned that dubious distinction.
A member of travel forum FlyerTalk posted this picture, which he says he snapped in the lavatory of a United Airlines flight."
Dec 14, 2013, 7:05 pm
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Not confused at all...try and have a little humor )...don't be so defensive on every posters comment ...
You did title this ..CH 11 unavoidable? for a company that is close to a 6 year high and in in the same post you mention "all time low"
If wall street had your opinion, the stock would reflect that..
)...don't be so defensive on every posters comment ...You did title this ..CH 11 unavoidable? for a company that is close to a 6 year high and in in the same post you mention "all time low"
If wall street had your opinion, the stock would reflect that..
Dec 14, 2013, 7:10 pm
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UA can underperform its rivals indefinitely. The question asked in this thread is whether UA will go bankrupt in 2014. Of course, not! It is currently profitable, and probably has plenty of resources on its balance sheet to survive a string of actual money-losing quarters.
For so many, inexplicably, they want UA to go bankrupt. Repeated often enough as a "fact," the desire-disguised-as-assertion becomes a "fact."
Not nuanced enough. Some entries are first rate, some are not, some are somewhere in-between.