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United (UA) To Eliminate NRT-BKK (UA837,UA838) [Now gone]

Old Nov 19, 2013, 9:19 am
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Originally Posted by wxguy
It will be as of 30-March-2014. The employees in BKK were informed yesterday that all UA flying will be terminated then. ANA will provide codeshare flights to NRT. Flights currently in the reservations database have yet to be updated.
Hmm. So is there a window here where I can still buy a premium-cabin UA seat NRT-BKK in summer 2014 and get reacommodated on another airline (or refunded for free)?
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 9:35 am
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Originally Posted by wxguy
It will be as of 30-March-2014. The employees in BKK were informed yesterday that all UA flying will be terminated then. ANA will provide codeshare flights to NRT. Flights currently in the reservations database have yet to be updated.

Horrible, horrible news.



They better be making some adjustments to the schedule. From what I recall, neither TG nor NH has an early morning (0600) flight BKK->NRT. Their existing ~8AM flights are going to make for tough connections.

No upgrades, no E+, no UA staff present to assist with Irrops, etc.

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Old Nov 19, 2013, 9:36 am
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Originally Posted by goodeats21
God. Even more cuts.

Loss of BKK is HUGE for me.
SEA-NRT is very easy upgrade on most days.

But NRT-BKK is a very tough one.

Maybe UA will fly SFO-BKK some day?

Overflying NRT?
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 9:41 am
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Originally Posted by kb1992
SEA-NRT is very easy upgrade on most days.

But NRT-BKK is a very tough one.

Maybe UA will fly SFO-BKK some day?

Overflying NRT?
Add a route? Forget it. This is the incredible shrinking airline.
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by mitchmu
It seemed to me that there are a lot of cuts in Asia.
NRT-BKK and SEA-NRT. That's not a lt in my book.
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by Xyzzy
NRT-BKK and SEA-NRT. That's not a lt in my book.
Well, a matter of opinion then. NRT-BKK is huge to me since BKK is a major destination for me. With the new MM devaluation and sky-high redemption on partners, and PQD nonsense, they've drastically changed options for travel to/from BKK. This is a big chunk of my international travel as I not only visit BKK but use it as a hub for other regional destinations, as I enjoy flying TG.

SEA-NRT sounds pretty big in my book, too.

And, didn't they downguage other routes?
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by mitchmu
Well, a matter of opinion then. NRT-BKK is huge to me since BKK is a major destination for me. With the new MM devaluation and sky-high redemption on partners, and PQD nonsense, they've drastically changed options for travel to/from BKK. This is a big chunk of my international travel as I not only visit BKK but use it as a hub for other regional destinations, as I enjoy flying TG.

SEA-NRT sounds pretty big in my book, too.

And, didn't they downguage other routes?
There were two routes cut, one of which is being replaced by "Trans-Pacific joint venture partner" flights from NRT. USA-BKK on UA was a one-stop before and it'll be a one-stp in the future. SEA-NRT will now require a stop. Other cities are gaining service.
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 10:12 am
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Originally Posted by goodeats21
God. Even more cuts.

Loss of BKK is HUGE for me.
Yes, United should keep flying money loosing routes such as SEA/NRT & NRT/BKK.

While they are at it, I would also like B747 service from O'Hare to Midway!
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 10:12 am
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Originally Posted by Xyzzy
NRT-BKK and SEA-NRT. That's not a lt in my book.
Elimination of NRT-PEK in 2010. (somebody please correct me if I am wrong on timing)
Elimination of NRT-TPE in October 2012.
Elimination of NRT-HKG in October 2013.
Elimination of SEA-NRT in January 2014.
Elimination of NRT-BKK in March 2014.

Originally Posted by wxguy
It will be as of 30-March-2014. The employees in BKK were informed yesterday that all UA flying will be terminated then. ANA will provide codeshare flights to NRT. Flights currently in the reservations database have yet to be updated.

Last edited by Neil35; Nov 19, 2013 at 10:35 am Reason: Correction per JOSECONLSCREW28's comment.
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by Neil35
Elimination of NRT-PEK in 2010. (somebody please correct me if I am wrong on timing)
Elimination of NRT-TPE in October 2012.
Elimination of NRT-HKG in October 2013.
Elimination of SEA-NRT in November 2013.
Elimination of NRT-BKK in March 2014.
Slight correction SEA - NRT ends 1/15/2014 and NRT - SEA ends 1/16/2014.
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by ElNegro
Yes, United should keep flying money loosing routes such as SEA/NRT & NRT/BKK.

While they are at it, I would also like B747 service from O'Hare to Midway!
Ah, so you know the profitability of these routes? Care to share this data? Can you please point to factual evidence for this claim? Or are you just hoping to compare SEA-NRT (ANA/Delta both run this route) and NRT-BKK to a ridiculous exaggeration?
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by ElNegro
Yes, United should keep flying money loosing routes such as SEA/NRT & NRT/BKK.

While they are at it, I would also like B747 service from O'Hare to Midway!
You are missing the point. United is cutting routes that aren't making money is fine. However, they aren't making money on these routes because they are allowing the competition to own markets (SEA) where UA was once strong. SEA-NRT has been around longer than any other United international route - why did it go from being profitable over the long term to unprofitable?
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 10:23 am
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Sorry but can someone help me understand the JV agreement with ANA.

If I book SFO-NRT-BKK now all on UA, do UA and ANA share all of the revenue or just the TransPac SFO-NRT revenue?

So in the future if I book SFO-NRT-BKK where NRT-BKK is on ANA does ANA share that revenue with UA?
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 10:34 am
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Originally Posted by Neil35
Elimination of NRT-PEK in 2010. (somebody please correct me if I am wrong on timing)
Elimination of NRT-TPE in October 2012.
Elimination of NRT-HKG in October 2013.
Elimination of SEA-NRT in November 2013.
Elimination of NRT-BKK in March 2014.
SFO-TPE
SFO-CTU
SFO-CDG
ORD-EDI
IAD-MAD
IAH-NRT 2nd frequency
EWR-LHR all wide-body for the summer
IAH-MUC

There are plenty of places where international service is being added, too. Not all good nor all bad.
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 10:41 am
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Originally Posted by Tracer_SEA
NRT-BKK is showing on dot bomb for next summer as a 777 whereas ICN is already showing as a 738.... So hopefully it was just a 744-->777
Historically, BKK 744 service was seasonal. 777 the rest of the year.

It is a shame we are losing BKK. They might want to update their advertising on TV (reference to flying to BKK).

Last edited by warreng24; Nov 19, 2013 at 10:49 am
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