Changes to MileagePlus Award and Upgrade Policies - Eff. 3-Feb-2014
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#61
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: BOS, SLC, LAX
Programs: AA EXP MM, UA Plat, DL Silver, SPG Titanium
Posts: 3,920
The problem is that I value the UC at about $3 per visit at this point and the US Club at about $5.
So domestic lounges are more or less worthless.
(In comparison I would probably pay about $100 to enter the BA Concorde Room in JFK and the Qantas SYD F lounge and $150-200 for the LH First Class terminal.

#62
Join Date: May 2004
Location: OAK
Programs: UA Gold MM / AS MVP Gold
Posts: 2,504

This airline is a joke. After I use up my remaining miles/upgrades, I will be leaving United. After almost 1 million revenue miles with United, I'm no longer convinced that it is even worth doing the the last few miles to make it over the line to MM status.

#63
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 6,339
At the end of the day, United will say "these changes do not affect 95% of all redemptions redeemed" and they will pull an Aeroplan. And because DL has already devalued and now it's almost certain that AA/US will do so too after they merge, they will only be generating a bit of hate.
Honestly I do think they'd devalue because first of all DL did and UA loves copyiing them, and also I highly doubt that Chase is making money from the cardholders who do 2 ink and csp and have 140k with 15k spend or whatever and no fees....
Honestly I do think they'd devalue because first of all DL did and UA loves copyiing them, and also I highly doubt that Chase is making money from the cardholders who do 2 ink and csp and have 140k with 15k spend or whatever and no fees....

#64
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: US
Programs: AA/UA/DL
Posts: 2,714
At the end of the day, United will say "these changes do not affect 95% of all redemptions redeemed" and they will pull an Aeroplan. And because DL has already devalued and now it's almost certain that AA/US will do so too after they merge, they will only be generating a bit of hate.
Honestly I do think they'd devalue because first of all DL did and UA loves copyiing them, and also I highly doubt that Chase is making money from the cardholders who do 2 ink and csp and have 140k with 15k spend or whatever and no fees....
Honestly I do think they'd devalue because first of all DL did and UA loves copyiing them, and also I highly doubt that Chase is making money from the cardholders who do 2 ink and csp and have 140k with 15k spend or whatever and no fees....
With United......

#65
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: ATL
Programs: All of Them
Posts: 510
Just when I move to Tokyo because it was *A friendly....thanks United.

#66
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Programs: UA 1K 1MM (finally!), IHG AMB-Spire, HH Diamond
Posts: 57,951
Changes to MileagePlus Award and Upgrade Policies - Eff. Feb. 2014
65k USA-SIN now 80k in Y. Terrible. At least the same 80k to fly *A also, unlike the F and C awards which punish for not selecting UA. Even though UA doesn't offer GF on many routes to S Asia.

#67
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: ATL/LAX
Programs: DL PM, UA PS, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 4,899
Where is the old chart on the United site? I have a local copy on my Mac ... what's a good place to host a PDF?

#68
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Join Date: Apr 2013
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#69
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 6,339
not to mention that spending 25k on your Delta AMEX will waive the minimum spend for top-tier... but that's another story.
Here:
http://www.united.com/web/en-us/cont...2012-03-03.pdf
http://www.united.com/web/en-us/cont...2012-03-03.pdf

#70
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: LAX/PVG
Programs: HH G, MR/SPG G, IHG Plat, Club Carlson G, National Exec
Posts: 191
Got to hand it $mi/J: instead of putting a competitive product in UA's own premium cabin, he chose to discourage redemption on partners by levying a king's ransom of a penalty. What a seminal strategy to run a successful business, and A CHANGE I FRIGGIN' LOVE!

#71
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Denver
Programs: UA MM, over 1.3 lifetime miles
Posts: 56
These changes are unbelievable, after all the damage they did after the merger to their loyal fliers.

#72
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Programs: UA 1K 1MM (finally!), IHG AMB-Spire, HH Diamond
Posts: 57,951
I would gladly trade no more CPU/RPU usage outside of the US (PMUA policy) in return for PMUA's award chart.
MP and E+ are the only value props for the airline. One is now thoroughly butchered (all but the award chart was decimated, now the award chart is as well).
There is still E+.
Last edited by iluv2fly; Nov 1, 13 at 4:21 am Reason: merge

#73
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Seat 2A
Programs: AA EXP LT GLD 1MM, BA GLD, NH/UA*G, Hyatt Dia, Marr Tit LT PLT, IHG Spire,HH Dia, MGM NOIR,Hertz PC
Posts: 10,522

#74
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Northeast Kansas | Colorado Native
Programs: UA *G, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LT Gold, NEXUS, TSA Disparager Unobtanium
Posts: 20,521
Until Jeffrey decides to rip it out so he can cram some more crap-line seats on to each flight... $$ is king with him.

#75
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Van down by the river
Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, Marriott PP/LT Plat, Golden Circle Diamond
Posts: 718
