Nov 1, 2013, 4:08 am
Last edit by: aacharya
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New UA Award/Upgrade Chart (vs. Current Chart)
Changes took effect for travel booked starting February 3, 2014. See UA Insider's post linked here for more info about the date change. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22263212-post2366.html
Awards with *A partners now cost more than similar awards flown only on UA metal.
See below for the round-trip increases on partner metal :
Changes to upgrade policy for intra-Asia and northern South America flights
Questions and Answers
Q: If I book an award in January 2014 and then make changes in February or beyond (in routing, airline, origin, destination, etc), will it be repriced according to new mileage requirements, or will I keep the old pricing on that ticket?
Additional details on changing tickets booked prior to 2/3/14 per UA Insider:
Full details are in post #2588 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22283437-post2588.html
Q: Do these rates apply for tickets purchased after Feb 3 or for travel after Feb 3? That is,if one purchases a ticket now, to fly on Mar 15, will that be new or old pricing?
Q: How will award pricing apply to mixed-carrier Saver Awards?
(reverted to J.Edward's rev)
New UA Award/Upgrade Chart (vs. Current Chart)
Changes took effect for travel booked starting February 3, 2014. See UA Insider's post linked here for more info about the date change. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22263212-post2366.html
Awards with *A partners now cost more than similar awards flown only on UA metal.
- F awards on partners went up 40-80%
- J awards on partners went up 20-40%
- F and J awards on UA metal (or mixed carriers where UA metal is in premium cabin followed by partner segment in lower class) as well some Y awards increased by 5-20% (US to Europe in F up 19%, US to Middle East in F up 20% for example)
See below for the round-trip increases on partner metal :
US ✈ Southern South America: +10,000 J, +5,000 F
US ✈ Europe: +40,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Northern/Central/Southern Africa: +40,000 J, +110,000 F
US ✈ Middle East: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +130,000 F
US ✈ Central Asia/India: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ South Asia: +15,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ North Asia: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +100,000 F
US ✈ Japan: +5,000 Y, +30,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Oceania: +30,000 J, +70,000 F
US ✈ Australia/New Zealand: +25,000 J, +100,000 F
RTW: +20,000 Y, +90,000 J, +100,000 F
US ✈ Europe: +40,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Northern/Central/Southern Africa: +40,000 J, +110,000 F
US ✈ Middle East: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +130,000 F
US ✈ Central Asia/India: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ South Asia: +15,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ North Asia: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +100,000 F
US ✈ Japan: +5,000 Y, +30,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Oceania: +30,000 J, +70,000 F
US ✈ Australia/New Zealand: +25,000 J, +100,000 F
RTW: +20,000 Y, +90,000 J, +100,000 F
Changes to upgrade policy for intra-Asia and northern South America flights
- Complimentary Premier Upgrades and instant upgrades are not applicable
- Regional Premier Upgrades (for any fare class) and Global Premier Upgrades (for flights booked in fare class Z, P, S, T, L, K, G or N) can no longer be requested on or after November 1, 2013
- There is no co-pay exemption for MileagePlus Upgrade Awards requested on or after November 1, 2013
- The above changes do not apply to Copa-operated flights.
Questions and Answers
Q: If I book an award in January 2014 and then make changes in February or beyond (in routing, airline, origin, destination, etc), will it be repriced according to new mileage requirements, or will I keep the old pricing on that ticket?
Our existing change process will apply. Changes to awards that require a change in date do not result in a change to the award price. Any other change will require an add/collect in miles and fees for changes or cancellations will still apply as per our existing policies.
Changes that will not trigger a re-price for itineraries ticketed before February 3, 2014 include:
- Date/time (cabin, region, and award type can't change)
- Carrier on one or more segments (cabin, region, and award type can’t change)
- Origin/Destination within the same regions (carrier and cabin can’t change)
Q: Do these rates apply for tickets purchased after Feb 3 or for travel after Feb 3? That is,if one purchases a ticket now, to fly on Mar 15, will that be new or old pricing?
Updated handling for mixed UA-Partner United/partner award itineraries: As we shared with the initial announcement, the Star Alliance/Partner partner award pricing will apply to Business or First awards for itineraries that include at least one flight segment operated by a MileagePlus partner carrier in Business or First.
However, as a customer benefit we have made an exception for most itineraries which require connecting onto a MileagePlus/Star partner in First or Business for a short distance. Specifically, if a United/Copa award itinerary contains a connecting segment on a MileagePlus/Star partner that is wholly within one MileagePlus award region, then the United award price will apply.
However, as a customer benefit we have made an exception for most itineraries which require connecting onto a MileagePlus/Star partner in First or Business for a short distance. Specifically, if a United/Copa award itinerary contains a connecting segment on a MileagePlus/Star partner that is wholly within one MileagePlus award region, then the United award price will apply.
- For example: IAD-FRA in United BusinessFirst connecting to FRA-FCO in Lufthansa Business, will be priced at the United mileage award amount.
- Note that this exception will not apply to a few specific regions and routings, such as intra-Africa connecting segments and certain fifth-freedom routes (e.g. BKK-KUL operated by Lufthansa)
Changes to MileagePlus Award and Upgrade Policies - Eff. 3-Feb-2014
Jul 2, 2014, 11:50 pm
#2986
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So really you are paying a $1000 premium to fly BA F over TK C, with the disadvantage of an extra stopover depending on your routing. BA F is nice but nothing special particularly if you are on an old plane.
Jul 3, 2014, 6:51 am
#2987
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No, from the West Coast the total for taxes, fees, surcharges, LHR luxury taxes, and assorted BS it's more like $1000 per ticket RT. Maybe more, that was the cost for the ticket I booked last year which was F-out and C-return.
So really you are paying a $1000 premium to fly BA F over TK C, with the disadvantage of an extra stopover depending on your routing. BA F is nice but nothing special particularly if you are on an old plane.
So really you are paying a $1000 premium to fly BA F over TK C, with the disadvantage of an extra stopover depending on your routing. BA F is nice but nothing special particularly if you are on an old plane.
Jul 31, 2014, 1:58 pm
#2988
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Posts: 428
So United the credit card company gives every group 2 cardholder 30K miles to join then decides to devalue the entire system so the new cardholders don't cost them as much?
Smisek is literally the most unfriendly and worst CEO in the history of mankind.
Smisek is literally the most unfriendly and worst CEO in the history of mankind.
Sep 12, 2014, 3:19 pm
#2990
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 18
Mileage cost for SFO to BKK gone up?
It's been about a year since I last redeemed miles for a flight to Asia, but I'm looking to book a flight from SFO to BKK which used to be 32,500 miles at the low end. It's now 40K.
I'm clearly out of the loop, but when did prices go up?
I'm clearly out of the loop, but when did prices go up?
Sep 12, 2014, 3:29 pm
#2991
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Vallejo, CA
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Posts: 18
KidA001
There was a whole mileage devaluation program that went into effect earlier this year.
Combined with minimum spend, and the upcoming changes starting in March 2015 it's getting harder and harder to make mileage work.
There was a whole mileage devaluation program that went into effect earlier this year.
Combined with minimum spend, and the upcoming changes starting in March 2015 it's getting harder and harder to make mileage work.
Sep 12, 2014, 3:53 pm
#2992
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: MRY - CNX - TXL
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The prices went up for award tickets on Feb 1st of this year.
Sep 12, 2014, 4:20 pm
#2993
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 18
Thanks all. I figured some change went into effect...
What upcoming changes are happening in March '15/where can I read a summary?
What upcoming changes are happening in March '15/where can I read a summary?
Sep 12, 2014, 4:42 pm
#2994
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Sep 12, 2014, 4:45 pm
#2995
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Sep 30, 2014, 12:51 am
#2996
Join Date: Jan 2013
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I can't seem to find any recent data points on the following:
1. Changing a one-way to a roundtrip at pre-deval reate
2. Adding a second passenger to the itinerary at pre-deval rate
Any experiences would be appreciated, thanks!
1. Changing a one-way to a roundtrip at pre-deval reate
2. Adding a second passenger to the itinerary at pre-deval rate
Any experiences would be appreciated, thanks!
Sep 30, 2014, 7:12 am
#2997
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Oct 10, 2014, 3:54 pm
#2998
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Dreamliner flights charge more miles?
I booked a saver award ticket using UA miles from HNL-TPE with stopover in SIN. My original flights HNL-NRT-SIN were on NH. I saw another flight today that includes a NH Dreamliner 787-8 HNL-HND-SIN. I tried to change it - the 1K agent said he could not see that availability so I can't get it period - even though I could see it right in front of me on the computer. I hung up and tried to change it online since it seemed an easy one. I was able to select those new flights but then they wanted 15K more miles? Dreamliners cost more?
Oct 10, 2014, 5:14 pm
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I booked a saver award ticket using UA miles from HNL-TPE with stopover in SIN. My original flights HNL-NRT-SIN were on NH. I saw another flight today that includes a NH Dreamliner 787-8 HNL-HND-SIN. I tried to change it - the 1K agent said he could not see that availability so I can't get it period - even though I could see it right in front of me on the computer. I hung up and tried to change it online since it seemed an easy one. I was able to select those new flights but then they wanted 15K more miles? Dreamliners cost more?
Oct 10, 2014, 7:14 pm
#3000
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I booked a saver award ticket using UA miles from HNL-TPE with stopover in SIN. My original flights HNL-NRT-SIN were on NH. I saw another flight today that includes a NH Dreamliner 787-8 HNL-HND-SIN. I tried to change it - the 1K agent said he could not see that availability so I can't get it period - even though I could see it right in front of me on the computer. I hung up and tried to change it online since it seemed an easy one. I was able to select those new flights but then they wanted 15K more miles? Dreamliners cost more?