Originally Posted by eng3 (Post 21733237)

Yes that is what I was referring to. On the upgrade page, they have the note for "Within Asia" but not for "Oceania". The note also does not mention Oceania. That's what made me wonder about GUM flights.

Last time I was on NRT-GUM, I was the only one up front. When I boarded, the FA seemed to know who I was already. The Captain came out to shake my hand and the FA offered to have me sit in a different seat because it had more legroom. It seemed quite strange.

Originally Posted by KenInEscazu (Post 21736561)

I would rather pay a little more, buy the Z fare and get a ton of extra miles. It means faster status and more MM miles.

Originally Posted by edcho (Post 21736919)

I think UA (and Copa in this case) would gladly get your paid F. However, i'm confused with your "more MM miles" statement. Earning extra PQMs does not translate to more MM miles as MM miles are BIS miles (not PQMs).

Originally Posted by penner42 (Post 21734652)

Pretty sure GUWonder meant that because they're not aware of FT, they don't know the devaluation is going to hit. Right now, they know it costs 100k miles roundtrip US to Europe on any *A partner in J. Until they get an official communication from UA, they'll believe that. When is that announcement going to come? Already lots of saver seats have been taken by FT members because of the "advance notice" they got, so regular frequent flyers - who are well aware of the MP program - have less availability to choose from.

Originally Posted by mh3265a (Post 21736768)

GUM is the former Continental Micronesia hub, a prior subsidiary of CO, and they were known for their great service. I think that great service still remains but I've never been on an empty NRT-GUM flight. I am normally on the 3/4pm 737-800 flight which is always full up front. I wonder if you were on one of the 777s earlier in the day or late in the evening?

Originally Posted by CoMooter (Post 21737373)

I passed to a couple of colleagues of mine already this week (most of whom have huge MP balances in their accounts) that this had occurred. Nobody had any idea of this coming. I just went on to COdbaUA.com to see where this was announced and the only way to find out about it is to go into the award charts - unbelievable. Before that - nothing.

It is quite obvious they are trying to sneak this one in with as little as possible 'announcement' to the masses - much like DL did earlier this year - while still be able to state that this was 'public notice' back in November when the complaints start on 2/1/15.

Originally Posted by GetSetJetSet (Post 21737496)

Is there actually any doubt that United is hoping won't people won't notice until it's too late? I have likewise passed the information along to my friends, and I am trying to burn my miles down to 0 with bookings made now before availability vanishes or UA constructs other ways to try to bully us into keeping our miles around for UA metal redemptions post 2/1/14.

Originally Posted by Happy (Post 21735523)

Quote:
Originally Posted by UA Insider View Post
Originally Posted by DWFI View Post
Aaron - if I book an award in Jan 2014 and then make changes in Feb or beyond (in routing, airline, origin, destination, etc), will it be repriced according to new mileage reqs. or will I keep the old pricing on that ticket?

Hi DWFI, Our existing change process will apply. Changes to awards that require a change in date do not result in a change to the award price. Any other change will require an add/collect in miles and fees for changes or cancellations will still apply as per our existing policies.

Aaron Goldberg
Sr. Manager - Customer Experience Planning
United Airlines




What is not clear to you? UA Insider clearly said that except Date Change, all other changes would result to reprice the award. When it is repriced after Feb 1, which chart do you think UA would use?

Originally Posted by GetSetJetSet (Post 21736903)

Sorry if it's been posted, don't want to dig through 101 pages, but if there a link to the FULL new *A chart anywhere? I want to check out all of the rates for routings that don't involve the U.S. to see if it's worth keeping any of my UA miles for something like an intra SE Asia zone award or Europe to Australia or something. Thanks.

Originally Posted by LarkSFO (Post 21732614)

Mr. (or Ms.) GetSetJetSet:

The Mileage Plus Upgrade and Award Charts (linked at the top of the wiki) provide your answer.

- Old = tickets booked before 2/1/14, can be changed up until travel dates per existing UA change rules.

- New: tickets booked 2/1/14 and beyond.

Old Europe to Northern Africa on a *A award ticket: 17.5 - 30 - 45 (Y - C - F)

Old Europe to Central / Southern Africa on a *A award ticket: 30 - 45 - 60


New Europe to Northern Africa on a *A award ticket: 30 - 55 - 100

New Europe to Central / Southern Africa on a *A award ticket: 30 - 55 - 100

So, if you fly in economy (I doubt it with the GSJS FT moniker), then there is no change Europe to Southern Africa.

C will go from 45,000 to 55,000 miles.

F (as in many of the *A changes) will take a big jump from 60,000 miles to 100,000 miles. Ouch.

The new award chart also combines Northern Africa with Southern / Central Africa, which has the effect of increasing Northern Africa awards by an even greater percentage.

Lark

PS Northern Africa: Algeria Morocco Canary Islands Tunisia Libya

Central Southern Africa: Angola Madagascar Benin Malawi Botswana Mali Burkina Faso Mauritania Burundi Mauritius Cameroon Mozambique Cape Verde Namibia Central African Republic Niger Chad Nigeria Comoros Reunion Island
Congo Rwanda Cote D’Ivoire Sao Tome and Principe Democratic Republic of Congo Senegal Djibouti Seychelles Equatorial Guinea Sierra Leone Eritrea Somalia Ethiopia South Africa Gabon Sudan Gambia Swaziland Ghana Tanzania
Guinea Togo Guinea-Bissau Uganda Kenya Zambia Lesotto Zimbabwe Liberia

Originally Posted by RNE (Post 21737572)

Moreover, I think it is foolhardy to "burn" miles down to zero.

Originally Posted by INDFlyer (Post 21737648)

What will happen in my case ?

I booked a one way ticket from BKK to MSP using UA miles

BKK -> NRT (J) (Thai Airways)
NRT -> ORD (F) (ANA Airways)
ORD -> MSP (F) (United)

My question is if BKK-> NRT seat opens up in F and if i upgrade to F from J, will my ticket be repriced using the new award chart?

Originally Posted by artemis (Post 21737855)

I think it can make sense to burn them down to zero if you think that you're unlikely to earn enough miles in the future to book a decent award under the new chart. But surely that describes a minority of people. In general, I agree with you.

Originally Posted by INDFlyer (Post 21737648)

What will happen in my case ?

I booked a one way ticket from BKK to MSP using UA miles

BKK -> NRT (J) (Thai Airways)
NRT -> ORD (F) (ANA Airways)
ORD -> MSP (F) (United)

My question is if BKK-> NRT seat opens up in F and if i upgrade to F from J, will my ticket be repriced using the new award chart?