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Direct flights -- Why? What about Mileage Credit?

Direct flights -- Why? What about Mileage Credit?

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Old Aug 12, 19, 8:36 am   -   Wikipost
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Originally Posted by tlawrence85 View Post
'Direct' flights are not the same as non-stop flights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_flight

"A direct flight in the aviation industry is any flight between two points by an airline with no change in flight numbers, which may include a stop over at an intermediate point."
Non-Stop -- A flight between two airports with no stops / no other airport involved.

Direct flight -- a flight booked as a flight between two airports BUT will involve a scheduled connection (landing/departure) at another airport. The same plane may or may not be used for each segment of the flight. {On UA, generally does not involve the same aircraft and may use a different type of airplane}

Why done
  • So that the direct flight shows as a competitive option vs non-stops in third party online booking sites.
  • Conservation of flight numbers, due to shortage of 4-digit flight numbers, this allows for more flights without using more flight numbers

For UA, mileage credit is the same for a non-stop and a direct flight. You "lose" out of the extra flight miles.
Possible resolution is to see if the direct flight can be split into the separate flight segments -- some times this is possible, other times it is not.

There can be seat assignment issues on direct flights especially if aircraft type is different.
Upgrades will not clear on direct flights in advance unless upgrade space is available on both flights. Gate upgrades will process based on the individual flights.


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Old Aug 12, 19, 4:17 pm
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Originally Posted by porciuscato View Post
This is silly, because it's not what I booked and MFR-LAS does not exist. But I'm wondering: is this a new way for United to cut mileage earnings?
It's a direct flight with a stop. Yes, it will earn that way. No, it's not new. You've never noticed before because direct flights with an en route stop are rare in the UA network, excepting the Island Hopper.
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Old Aug 12, 19, 4:32 pm
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Direct flight, the hint was
1 stop (plane change)
Stop in San Francisco, CA, US (SFO) 59m ground time
And no expert data on the second flight
And the repeated flight number

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Old Aug 12, 19, 4:42 pm
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Thanks! Interesting. So it looks like I can circumvent this by explicitly booking a multi-leg. It adds $30 to the cost. So $30 for 400 BIS and 400 PQMs. Probably not worth it.
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Old Aug 12, 19, 5:20 pm
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Originally Posted by porciuscato View Post
Thanks! Interesting. So it looks like I can circumvent this by explicitly booking a multi-leg. It adds $30 to the cost. So $30 for 400 BIS and 400 PQMs. Probably not worth it.
Well you can try to get an agent to force split it as an even exchange but that's an uphill battle. These agents waive change fees all day but treat RDM like gold!

Btw, there's a small chance your PQM will post "correctly." YMMV.

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