Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > United Airlines | MileagePlus
Reload this Page >

Facilities changes to United at LAX, including a new United Club

Facilities changes to United at LAX, including a new United Club

Old Sep 6, 13, 2:37 pm
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 13
Facilities changes to United at LAX, including a new United Club

I'm a reporter covering Southern California aviation for the Los Angeles News Group. I learned recently that United Airlines seeks $400 million of upgrades at LAX. Here's my story.

http://www.insidesocal.com/aviation/...inal-upgrades/

Have a good news tip? Email me at [email protected]
ReporterBrian is offline  
Old Sep 6, 13, 2:44 pm
  #2  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Northeast Kansas | Colorado Native
Programs: Amex, UA *G, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LT Gold, NEXUS, TSA Disparager Unobtanium
Posts: 20,762
It's about time. My only wish is that the new lounge keeps the FT guestbook in the copy/FedEx room.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...minal-7-a.html
FriendlySkies is offline  
Old Sep 6, 13, 2:45 pm
  #3  
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Programs: DL PM, MR Titanium/LTP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 9,595
Definitely a good move especially if it results in a new T7 UC on par with the new club at ORD.

If I'm reading correctly though basically United is putting up $34 million and the balance (some $379 million) is being covered by LAWA?

In all, United plans to invest about $413 million in improvements, mainly in Terminal 7. Los Angeles World Airports will pay for the bulk of upgrades through cash and rental credits. United will be on the hook for roughly $34 million for what are considering proprietary improvements.

Good on UA for getting that kind of support especially since they can (and are) marketing it as though they (United) are making $400m in improvements when in reality UA itself is only contributing $34m to the improvements.
Duke787 is offline  
Old Sep 6, 13, 2:46 pm
  #4  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: SEA, SFO, NYC
Programs: United: Gold, HHonors: Gold, Marriott: Gold, AA, US, AGR
Posts: 395
I really hope they add showers at the LAX United Club.
TakeTheATrain is offline  
Old Sep 6, 13, 2:52 pm
  #5  
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: PHL
Posts: 2,842
Hopefully the new club is quite expansive considering the T6 club is closing. The T7 club now is a pretty good size but it still can be tough to even find a seat.
nova08 is offline  
Old Sep 6, 13, 3:12 pm
  #6  
TA
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: if it's Thursday, this must be Belgium
Programs: UA 1K MM
Posts: 6,346
Well is the story that United is slow to catch up, or that LAWA management and operating methods in general are not conducive to it being a leading airport (customer experience-wise)?
TA is offline  
Old Sep 6, 13, 3:18 pm
  #7  
Moderator, Omni, Omni/PR, Omni/Games, FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Between DCA and IAD
Programs: UA 1K MM; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 64,317
It is good news, but I have to ask: when the heck is UA going to work with the MWAA to get a new midfield concourse at IAD? I know we're not the biggest hub, but our "temporary" dump of a terminal really needs to be replaced and made into a flagship for the new UA and the national capital region.
exerda is offline  
Old Sep 6, 13, 3:23 pm
  #8  
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Denver, CO, USA
Programs: Former 1KMM now free as UA Gold MM, former HH D, Marriott Lifetime Plat current Titanium
Posts: 1,109
Originally Posted by exerda View Post
It is good news, but I have to ask: when the heck is UA going to work with the MWAA to get a new midfield concourse at IAD? I know we're not the biggest hub, but our "temporary" dump of a terminal really needs to be replaced and made into a flagship for the new UA and the national capital region.
Amen. Any major Capex by UA should be going toward IAD first. And I don't even live in that timezone!
bmr12 is offline  
Old Sep 6, 13, 3:25 pm
  #9  
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 5,825
Originally Posted by flyerdude88 View Post
Definitely a good move especially if it results in a new T7 UC on par with the new club at ORD.

If I'm reading correctly though basically United is putting up $34 million and the balance (some $379 million) is being covered by LAWA?

In all, United plans to invest about $413 million in improvements, mainly in Terminal 7. Los Angeles World Airports will pay for the bulk of upgrades through cash and rental credits. United will be on the hook for roughly $34 million for what are considering proprietary improvements.

Good on UA for getting that kind of support especially since they can (and are) marketing it as though they (United) are making $400m in improvements when in reality UA itself is only contributing $34m to the improvements.
There is nothing odd about this...

IAH and SFO follow the same model.

The airport is the landlord, the airlines are just the tenant.
LarkSFO is offline  
Old Sep 6, 13, 3:26 pm
  #10  
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Under the Cone of Silence
Programs: UA Gold; AA Dirt; HH Diamond; National Emerald; CONTROL SecretAgent Platinum; KAOS EvilFlyer Gold
Posts: 1,402
Originally Posted by exerda View Post
It is good news, but I have to ask: when the heck is UA going to work with the MWAA to get a new midfield concourse at IAD? I know we're not the biggest hub, but our "temporary" dump of a terminal really needs to be replaced and made into a flagship for the new UA and the national capital region.
+1

The current LAX T6/7/8 is much more tolerable than the current IAD C/D.

Why they prioritized LAX over IAD for renovations confuses me.

Edit-- Oh, wait, now I see that LAWA is paying the bulk of this, not UA.
Maxwell Smart is offline  
Old Sep 6, 13, 3:26 pm
  #11  
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 5,825
Brian -

Thanks for the post, appreciate it.

Please follow up with the results of next Tuesday's (9/10?) meeting!

"United’s plan must still be approved by the seven-member Los Angeles Airport Commission. It next meets on Tuesday."

Last edited by Ocn Vw 1K; Sep 7, 13 at 1:36 pm Reason: merge consecutive posts; and unduly personalized language directed to other members.
LarkSFO is offline  
Old Sep 6, 13, 4:30 pm
  #12  
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: EWR, PHL
Programs: UA1k 3MM, AA Plt, peasant on everybody else, elite something or other at a bunch of hotels.
Posts: 4,592
Nail, meet hammer!

Snip:

Its a terminal in massive need of everything form aesthetic improvements to more substantive improvements to things that you cant see under the walls, said Henry Harteveldt, an airline industry analyst at Hudson Crossing in San Francisco. Its an old building.

Amen!
1kBill is offline  
Old Sep 6, 13, 4:38 pm
  #13  
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Programs: Hyatt LT Globalist, Marriot LT Titanium, UA 2.4MM, HH Gold, AS MVPG
Posts: 3,367
To an extent United is keeping up with the Joness, Harteveldt said. They are investing money because if the dont their competitors will have better terminals to offer and better airport experiences to offer.

Ah yes - the World's Leading Airline, always following. LOL
SF1K is offline  
Old Sep 6, 13, 4:50 pm
  #14  
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 5,825
Originally Posted by SF1K View Post
To an extent United is keeping up with the Joness, Harteveldt said. They are investing money because if the dont their competitors will have better terminals to offer and better airport experiences to offer.

Ah yes - the World's Leading Airline, always following. LOL
It's "The world's largest airline"...

Read more of Harteveldt's work, see what you think of him.
LarkSFO is offline  
Old Sep 6, 13, 5:00 pm
  #15  
Moderator: Smoking Lounge; FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SFO
Programs: Lifetime (for now) Gold MM, HH Gold, Giving Tootsie Pops to UA employees, & a retired hockey goalie
Posts: 28,760
Good news to hear ^ and perhaps in my lifetime, IAD will follow suit tho if I may be picky, the article is about United with United in the headline so why is there an Air Tahiti jet in the photo and only AA and DL visible in the background?
goalie is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread