Aug 17, 2013, 10:44 am
Last edit by: Bitterroot
Updates to Wiki as of 20 January 2014
Planned changes in aircraft by date and route:
SFO -- SYD: first 772 departs SFO 27 March; turns to 840 at SYD on 29 March
LAX -- SYD: first 772 departs LAX 29 March; turn off 840-29th.
NRT -- ORD: First 744 departs NRT 27 March (aircraft turn at ORD to PVG and FRA in succession the day following arrival from NRT)
ORD -- NRT: First 744 departs ORD 31 March
ORD -- PVG: First 744 departs ORD 28 March
PVG -- ORD: First 744 departs PVG 29 March
ORD -- FRA: First 744 departs ORD 29 March
FRA -- ORD: First 744 departs FRA 30 March
NRT -- SFO: 852 to operate with 772 27 March through 31 March inclusive (772 coming out of rotation)
Or, you can just go look at the good work here (note that info posted above differs from AIRLINEROUTE info dated 4 January 2014 and before):
http://airlineroute.net/2013/08/17/ua-s14update1/
Or, straight to the source if you want to do your own research:
http://www.oag.com/Global
Planned changes in aircraft by date and route:
SFO -- SYD: first 772 departs SFO 27 March; turns to 840 at SYD on 29 March
LAX -- SYD: first 772 departs LAX 29 March; turn off 840-29th.
NRT -- ORD: First 744 departs NRT 27 March (aircraft turn at ORD to PVG and FRA in succession the day following arrival from NRT)
ORD -- NRT: First 744 departs ORD 31 March
ORD -- PVG: First 744 departs ORD 28 March
PVG -- ORD: First 744 departs PVG 29 March
ORD -- FRA: First 744 departs ORD 29 March
FRA -- ORD: First 744 departs FRA 30 March
NRT -- SFO: 852 to operate with 772 27 March through 31 March inclusive (772 coming out of rotation)
Or, you can just go look at the good work here (note that info posted above differs from AIRLINEROUTE info dated 4 January 2014 and before):
http://airlineroute.net/2013/08/17/ua-s14update1/
Or, straight to the source if you want to do your own research:
http://www.oag.com/Global
[Confirmed] SYD going UA 3 Cabin 777 in 2014 [and other 747 route changes]
Nov 10, 2013, 11:18 pm
#437
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: MEL
Programs: OZ Diamond, QF, VA
Posts: 235
Nov 11, 2013, 3:36 am
#438
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,813
I have heard 3 Rumors
first was seasonal swap of 777 and 747 for capacity
777 for April->October and 747 November ->March
Second was 2x 777's year round and 3rd 777 doing ex Mel service for peek periods
Third was
2x 777 Syd/Mel->USA
1x 787 Syd->IAH (the QF flight to DFW has proved that this a market success)
first was seasonal swap of 777 and 747 for capacity
777 for April->October and 747 November ->March
Second was 2x 777's year round and 3rd 777 doing ex Mel service for peek periods
Third was
2x 777 Syd/Mel->USA
1x 787 Syd->IAH (the QF flight to DFW has proved that this a market success)
It's hard to believe that United would bring back the 747s post April 2014 with their bad history on this route.
I have no idea about the rumours but suspect the first very unlikely .
Dec 25, 2013, 9:53 am
#439
Used to be 'IAD22066'
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: IAD
Programs: UA 1K AA
Posts: 282
Upper decks
The thing I'm going to miss is the Upper Deck. I think I'm going to agree to these future Sydney business trips only if they can make a 777 with a "hump". I've never been on the lower deck in Business class. Last year, I went downstairs mid-flight to have a look around and knew the plane suddenly seemed huge (and I started to feel guilty when seeing all of those in... Coach) and had to go back upstairs to escape reality. Now, there will be no way to avoid it and I will be stuck with a guilty conscience.
Dec 25, 2013, 9:57 am
#440
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: East Coast
Programs: AA CONCIERGE KEY & 1MM, HILTON DIAMOND
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Such high demand is being met by QF's A380s on that market. Everyone else--Virgin Australia, Delta, and now United, will be using 777s.
Dec 25, 2013, 9:59 am
#441
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The thing I'm going to miss is the Upper Deck. I think I'm going to agree to these future Sydney business trips only if they can make a 777 with a "hump". I've never been on the lower deck in Business class. Last year, I went downstairs mid-flight to have a look around and knew the plane suddenly seemed huge (and I started to feel guilty when seeing all of those in... Coach) and had to go back upstairs to escape reality. Now, there will be no way to avoid it and I will be stuck with a guilty conscience.
Dec 25, 2013, 10:16 am
#442
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: DSM
Programs: UA-1K >1MM ,QF Platinum,HH-Diamond,Marriott-Gold
Posts: 105
Interestingly---United has progressively increased the Z fares from LAX-SYD to the same or on many days higher than QF(at just more than 90 days out) so even though I have no status on QF I have booked them in business for an upcoming trip to SYD and MEL.
It will be a change.....
I guess the way UAL is going and loyal customer alienating business model....
It will be a change.....
I guess the way UAL is going and loyal customer alienating business model....
Dec 25, 2013, 10:41 am
#443
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 855
I'm looking at going to Australia for thanksgiving next year, and while I see SFO-SYD and LAX-SYD being operated by 777s, SYD-MEL shows a 747 on all dates I've checked. UA.com bug?
Dec 25, 2013, 1:20 pm
#444
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: ORF
Programs: UA & DL Gold
Posts: 309
Probably, SYD -> MEL is an extension of the LAX -> SYD route. Unless you are in SFO, **DO NOT** take the SFO route. If anything gets messed up you are much better off in LAX as every other carrier is there.
The LAX airport is abysmal but the UA staff are always spot on.
-- Dan
The LAX airport is abysmal but the UA staff are always spot on.
-- Dan
Dec 25, 2013, 9:17 pm
#445
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Probably, SYD -> MEL is an extension of the LAX -> SYD route. Unless you are in SFO, **DO NOT** take the SFO route. If anything gets messed up you are much better off in LAX as every other carrier is there.
The LAX airport is abysmal but the UA staff are always spot on.
-- Dan
The LAX airport is abysmal but the UA staff are always spot on.
-- Dan
Dec 25, 2013, 9:52 pm
#446
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: San Francisco/Sydney
Programs: UA 1K/MM, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Something, IHG Gold, Hertz PC, Avis PC
Posts: 8,147
If the problem isn't detected in time then it doesn't make a lot of difference where you are - all of the Australian flights leave within a short period of time (the latest about 90 mins after the UA flight) so the odds of being re-accommodated are at best low.
Dec 26, 2013, 4:09 am
#447
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Syd
Programs: UA 1k 1MM, VA G
Posts: 886
Interestingly---United has progressively increased the Z fares from LAX-SYD to the same or on many days higher than QF(at just more than 90 days out) so even though I have no status on QF I have booked them in business for an upcoming trip to SYD and MEL.
It will be a change.....
I guess the way UAL is going and loyal customer alienating business model....
It will be a change.....
I guess the way UAL is going and loyal customer alienating business model....
They are still way way more attractive then QF for any fare class
Jan 20, 2014, 8:20 pm
#448
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: People's Republic of HotTubistan
Posts: 1,408
For those tracking the shift in sUA 772 and 744 deployments at the end of March, the Wiki attached to this thread is updated with the most current info.........
Jan 27, 2014, 1:37 pm
#449
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 107
UA LAX SYD on Triple-7
Just booked a trip LAX-SYD and noticed that it is on a 777.
First flight is apparently 29 March - it took me by surprise. Does this mean that UA is doing away with all 747's?
First flight is apparently 29 March - it took me by surprise. Does this mean that UA is doing away with all 747's?
Jan 27, 2014, 5:34 pm
#450
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: People's Republic of HotTubistan
Posts: 1,408
On the LAX and SFO to SYD/MEL routes, yes. The 744s released by the change in aircraft type will work other Asian and some FRA schedules from SFO and ORD.