Last edit by: Bitterroot
Updates to Wiki as of 20 January 2014
Planned changes in aircraft by date and route:
SFO -- SYD: first 772 departs SFO 27 March; turns to 840 at SYD on 29 March
LAX -- SYD: first 772 departs LAX 29 March; turn off 840-29th.
NRT -- ORD: First 744 departs NRT 27 March (aircraft turn at ORD to PVG and FRA in succession the day following arrival from NRT)
ORD -- NRT: First 744 departs ORD 31 March
ORD -- PVG: First 744 departs ORD 28 March
PVG -- ORD: First 744 departs PVG 29 March
ORD -- FRA: First 744 departs ORD 29 March
FRA -- ORD: First 744 departs FRA 30 March
NRT -- SFO: 852 to operate with 772 27 March through 31 March inclusive (772 coming out of rotation)
Or, you can just go look at the good work here (note that info posted above differs from AIRLINEROUTE info dated 4 January 2014 and before):
http://airlineroute.net/2013/08/17/ua-s14update1/
Or, straight to the source if you want to do your own research:
http://www.oag.com/Global
Planned changes in aircraft by date and route:
SFO -- SYD: first 772 departs SFO 27 March; turns to 840 at SYD on 29 March
LAX -- SYD: first 772 departs LAX 29 March; turn off 840-29th.
NRT -- ORD: First 744 departs NRT 27 March (aircraft turn at ORD to PVG and FRA in succession the day following arrival from NRT)
ORD -- NRT: First 744 departs ORD 31 March
ORD -- PVG: First 744 departs ORD 28 March
PVG -- ORD: First 744 departs PVG 29 March
ORD -- FRA: First 744 departs ORD 29 March
FRA -- ORD: First 744 departs FRA 30 March
NRT -- SFO: 852 to operate with 772 27 March through 31 March inclusive (772 coming out of rotation)
Or, you can just go look at the good work here (note that info posted above differs from AIRLINEROUTE info dated 4 January 2014 and before):
http://airlineroute.net/2013/08/17/ua-s14update1/
Or, straight to the source if you want to do your own research:
http://www.oag.com/Global
[Confirmed] SYD going UA 3 Cabin 777 in 2014 [and other 747 route changes]
#31
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I like the BF seats on the PMCO 777. Personal preference I guess. Better than the PMUA 777 for sure. Haven't have a good and direct comparison recently but will in 2 weeks fly SFO-ICN on the 744 and a few days later PEK-EWR on the PMCO 777.
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the interesting question is what existing sCO 777 routes will be giving up their birds for Australia.
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Right now it is 1 747 from SFO and LAX each daily. Will frequency change, or are they fine with a drop in number of seats (as well as cargo space I assume)?
I used to do this route on UA with friends every year for vacation, until UA/CO merger debacle, and found a much better premium experience on Qantas. I can't see this changing my plans.
I used to do this route on UA with friends every year for vacation, until UA/CO merger debacle, and found a much better premium experience on Qantas. I can't see this changing my plans.
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Much of it depends on the day of the week, but a loss of 14 premium seats per flight (LAX/SFO), and not having an F cabin for people to book/SWU into will definitely make it harder to get into a premium seat.
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I picked the first week in September, not very far out, and 3 out of 7 days have SFO-SYD availability in R. Seems pretty good to me, if you're willing to book a date that has availability and not expect it to come to you.
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LAX-SYD is a route I am surprised has not gone sCO 772 yet, given the capacity in the market, but I will be shocked to see UA give up the 747 from SFO, unless they plan on paring down the four-holer fleet a lot faster than is currently forecast.
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And the even vaster majority of profit.
I was once in GF sitting in the MEL F lounge and local couple was there too. The gentleman commented to someone on his cell phone that the Mrs and he were flying GF because 'you can't take it with you' .
What a huge downgrade.
I was once in GF sitting in the MEL F lounge and local couple was there too. The gentleman commented to someone on his cell phone that the Mrs and he were flying GF because 'you can't take it with you' .
What a huge downgrade.
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Considering it's still Winter in Australia, I am not surprised that you found R space...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaviddesJ
I picked the first week in September, not very far out, and 3 out of 7 days have SFO-SYD availability in R. Seems pretty good to me, if you're willing to book a date that has availability and not expect it to come to you.
Considering it's still Winter in Australia, I am not surprised that you found R space...
Originally Posted by DaviddesJ
I picked the first week in September, not very far out, and 3 out of 7 days have SFO-SYD availability in R. Seems pretty good to me, if you're willing to book a date that has availability and not expect it to come to you.
Considering it's still Winter in Australia, I am not surprised that you found R space...
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Well, sheesh, what do you want? You asked, "have you tried upgrading on this route?" and I pointed out that yes, it's easy. Now you are going to say there are some seasons and dates when it's harder to upgrade? Duh.
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I gotta confess that despite many years of living in SFO, travelling regularly to SYD, and being a UA flyer, I never once could actually bring myself to catch the UA 744 on this route. Far better to add four hours and go via Auckland.
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SYD goes to sCO
So if SYD goes to sCO, where does the sUA flights/planes go?
This is the incredible shrinking sUA!
This is the incredible shrinking sUA!
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You would really rather fly for four extra hours rather than just download whatever you want to watch on your own device before the trip? Really? I don't understand this obsession with IFE, in an era when anyone can watch whatever they want.