Upgrade Shenanigans? [Consolidated]
#1
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Cash upgrade or upgrade shenanigans? Mrs. Justsawaufo is #1 on the list with 1K RPU.

2:14PM, #6 on the upgrade list

2:52PM - Upgrade cleared for SHA, M. (I'm fairly confident SHA,M. was also in the Standby list - now only SHA,S. is in the standby list)

2:14PM, #6 on the upgrade list

2:52PM - Upgrade cleared for SHA, M. (I'm fairly confident SHA,M. was also in the Standby list - now only SHA,S. is in the standby list)
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Jul 3, 22 at 4:31 pm
#2
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Looks "fishy" to say the least. When this has happened to me I have asked the GAs what happened and they usually have been helpful. Sometimes it ends up being a cash buy up. Let us know IF you find out what happened.
#3
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Could it be that SHA/M is GS? They cleared the standby list into economy and then applied an RPU/GPU and so jumped above the 1K RPU?
For this to be true then 2, 3, 4, and 5 on the original list would have to have been GS with no instrument (but above SHA/M with tiebreakers) or 1K with instrument (but below MOR/I with tiebreakers), which doesn't seem totally unreasonable for a hub-hub flight.
For this to be true then 2, 3, 4, and 5 on the original list would have to have been GS with no instrument (but above SHA/M with tiebreakers) or 1K with instrument (but below MOR/I with tiebreakers), which doesn't seem totally unreasonable for a hub-hub flight.
#4
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You can only apply RPU (when 24 hours before the flight) if PN for GS or PZ for everyone else is > 1. I monitored both closely, and both remained 0.
In addition, he wouldnt be in the standby list and upgrade list at the same time if he wasnt a non-rev.
In addition, he wouldnt be in the standby list and upgrade list at the same time if he wasnt a non-rev.
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I didn't initially catch that, he was on both standby and upgrade?? If so you are correct those are NRSA's. I just saw the upgrade list above and thought it might be a last minute TOD.
#6
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I could be wrong, but if an F passenger is displaced from another flight (IRROPS) and was trying to get out on your wife's flight, they could be on both lists, no?
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I fly with UA employees and/or family and indeed when flying as NRSA they are on both lists. But yes, you are correct, they are not the only type of pax that could be on both lists. Getting back to the originally question when I have experienced this in the past (not actually uncommon) I have usually been told it was a cash buy up fwiw.
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Out of curiousity I looked into the internal nonrev list for this flight, theres nothing going on here IMO.
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While the most common reason, it is not the only reason. A displaced / irrops premium cabin passenger can appear on both lists. And there will have priorioty over waitlisted passenger (but that priority is not reflected in the gate list) That is a very possible explaination for this situation.
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This is an odd situation, which may not be shenanigans, but certainly is shenangian-y.
During boarding, the aircraft has 20 seats. 18 are booked and 18 are checked in. One seat is orange. I'm #1 on the upgrade list. The door closes, 18 people are booked, and I am still #1 on the upgrade list, 1B is still orange. In flight, F is full, including 1B. My RPU has not yet been returned, and MP says it is used, but I think they are confused about the outbound.
Any ideas about a non-shenanigan explaination?
During boarding, the aircraft has 20 seats. 18 are booked and 18 are checked in. One seat is orange. I'm #1 on the upgrade list. The door closes, 18 people are booked, and I am still #1 on the upgrade list, 1B is still orange. In flight, F is full, including 1B. My RPU has not yet been returned, and MP says it is used, but I think they are confused about the outbound.
Any ideas about a non-shenanigan explaination?
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