Will UA issue ticket (016 ticket) w/ partner airline only, no UA/UX flight on itin?
Apr 3, 2014, 9:59 am
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Wanted to book Avianca LIM-CUZ / JUL-LIM through United in order to earn PQD. I called the Premier desk asked the agent if possible and was rebuffed and given an explanation that it was bad business for United and for the consumer.
Anyhow, I searched for these flights on award travel and was able to select the option to pay cash instead of using miles (price was about $25 more than Avianca so worth it) and everything seems to have ticketed just fine on 016 stock. So it seems that it is possible through a backdoor route.
Anyhow, I searched for these flights on award travel and was able to select the option to pay cash instead of using miles (price was about $25 more than Avianca so worth it) and everything seems to have ticketed just fine on 016 stock. So it seems that it is possible through a backdoor route.
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Apr 3, 2014, 10:06 am
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Wanted to book Avianca LIM-CUZ / JUL-LIM through United in order to earn PQD. I called the Premier desk asked the agent if possible and was rebuffed and given an explanation that it was bad business for United and for the consumer.
Anyhow, I searched for these flights on award travel and was able to select the option to pay cash instead of using miles (price was about $25 more than Avianca so worth it) and everything seems to have ticketed just fine on 016 stock. So it seems that it is possible through a backdoor route.
Anyhow, I searched for these flights on award travel and was able to select the option to pay cash instead of using miles (price was about $25 more than Avianca so worth it) and everything seems to have ticketed just fine on 016 stock. So it seems that it is possible through a backdoor route.
I changed one of these AV tickets through UA by phone this weekend. The UA agent was absolutely shocked that a discount AV economy fare (P class) had only a $25 change fee. (They are also refundable for a fee of only $35.) The change process went smoothly once the agent accepted that the change fee was really only $25.
I really like AV. Just pray for no IRROPs . . . .
Apr 3, 2014, 10:12 am
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Yes this method is regularly used to book on AV.
I changed one of these AV tickets through UA by phone this weekend. The UA agent was absolutely shocked that a discount AV economy fare (P class) had only a $25 change fee. (They are also refundable for a fee of only $35.) The change process went smoothly once the agent accepted that the change fee was really only $25.
I really like AV. Just pray for no IRROPs . . . .
I changed one of these AV tickets through UA by phone this weekend. The UA agent was absolutely shocked that a discount AV economy fare (P class) had only a $25 change fee. (They are also refundable for a fee of only $35.) The change process went smoothly once the agent accepted that the change fee was really only $25.
I really like AV. Just pray for no IRROPs . . . .
Apr 3, 2014, 10:42 am
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If one has a 016 ticket on other airlines, does it add any complication when you run into irregularity?
My company has UA as the preferred carrier, yet our AMEX agent tickets on different ticket stocks - even say you do UA on the outbound and someone else on the return (and you pay 2 ticketing fees + 2 change fees). There is no way to tell AMEX to issue 016 tickets, right?
Thanks.
My company has UA as the preferred carrier, yet our AMEX agent tickets on different ticket stocks - even say you do UA on the outbound and someone else on the return (and you pay 2 ticketing fees + 2 change fees). There is no way to tell AMEX to issue 016 tickets, right?
Thanks.
Apr 3, 2014, 11:29 am
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I was able this weekend to change the return leg of a RT (after commencing travel) with shocking ease. It was a simple change though (same routing, different day).
Apr 3, 2014, 11:48 am
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AV is responsible in case of IRROPs. That's really the issue, not the ticket stock. The latin carriers don't handle IRROPs so well. It's a risk of travel in that part of the world.
I was able this weekend to change the return leg of a RT (after commencing travel) with shocking ease. It was a simple change though (same routing, different day).
I was able this weekend to change the return leg of a RT (after commencing travel) with shocking ease. It was a simple change though (same routing, different day).
Apr 3, 2014, 10:29 pm
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I assume you are referring to a change before day of travel, correct? If so, if you booked through UA (016 stock) then of course ANA won't change it. They don't have control of the ticket. Technically, they might be able to take control but probably didn't want it to mess things up. If people want to find ways to book through UA on 016 tickets, that's perfectly fine, just don't expect anyone other than UA to make changes.
Apr 3, 2014, 10:40 pm
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I assume you are referring to a change before day of travel, correct? If so, if you booked through UA (016 stock) then of course ANA won't change it. They don't have control of the ticket. Technically, they might be able to take control but probably didn't want it to mess things up. If people want to find ways to book through UA on 016 tickets, that's perfectly fine, just don't expect anyone other than UA to make changes.
Apr 3, 2014, 10:41 pm
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I assume you are referring to a change before day of travel, correct? If so, if you booked through UA (016 stock) then of course ANA won't change it. They don't have control of the ticket. Technically, they might be able to take control but probably didn't want it to mess things up. If people want to find ways to book through UA on 016 tickets, that's perfectly fine, just don't expect anyone other than UA to make changes.
I changed through UA. It was 36 hours prior to scheduled travel, and I moved flight up a day to within 12 hours.
I would only try to change through operating carrier at the airport.
Apr 4, 2014, 12:39 am
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Will UA issue tickets on partner airlines if no UA/*A flight on itinerary?
Thanks for explaining - I didn't get that from your other post.
I'm confused why this issue has anything to do with 016 stock or UA issued tickets or not. Sounds like you were simply being held to the fare rules of the ticket you bought. That's why I always read the change/cancel rules before I buy a ticket with anyone. Don't want a flight thus doesn't meet needs.
Haven't had a situation yet where I've had to make a decision on buying a completely non-cancelable ticket yet (even with a fee) but that's something I'm just not comfortable with, unless the discount is so great that it's worth a throw away. Even if I'm not expecting it, you never know. I know SQ has those kind of fares.
I'm confused why this issue has anything to do with 016 stock or UA issued tickets or not. Sounds like you were simply being held to the fare rules of the ticket you bought. That's why I always read the change/cancel rules before I buy a ticket with anyone. Don't want a flight thus doesn't meet needs.
Haven't had a situation yet where I've had to make a decision on buying a completely non-cancelable ticket yet (even with a fee) but that's something I'm just not comfortable with, unless the discount is so great that it's worth a throw away. Even if I'm not expecting it, you never know. I know SQ has those kind of fares.
Apr 4, 2014, 1:31 am
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Thanks for explaining - I didn't get that from your other post.
I'm confused why this issue has anything to do with 016 stock or UA issued tickets or not. Sounds like you were simply being held to the fare rules of the ticket you bought. That's why I always read the change/cancel rules before I buy a ticket with anyone. Don't want a flight thus doesn't meet needs.
Haven't had a situation yet where I've had to make a decision on buying a completely non-cancelable ticket yet (even with a fee) but that's something I'm just not comfortable with, unless the discount is so great that it's worth a throw away. Even if I'm not expecting it, you never know. I know SQ has those kind of fares.
I'm confused why this issue has anything to do with 016 stock or UA issued tickets or not. Sounds like you were simply being held to the fare rules of the ticket you bought. That's why I always read the change/cancel rules before I buy a ticket with anyone. Don't want a flight thus doesn't meet needs.
Haven't had a situation yet where I've had to make a decision on buying a completely non-cancelable ticket yet (even with a fee) but that's something I'm just not comfortable with, unless the discount is so great that it's worth a throw away. Even if I'm not expecting it, you never know. I know SQ has those kind of fares.
Apr 4, 2014, 10:10 am
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Looks like I have - I'm just getting confused today. Glad its the end of the week.
Apr 4, 2014, 10:25 am
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May 30, 2014, 7:22 pm
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United's website allows all non-UA flight regular bookings now...
Just booked a flight for August on .bomb from MAN to VCE on LH. I checked the cost on other sites and decided to see what .bomb would do.... Surprisingly it pulled up the exact LH flights I wanted (via FRA) and allowed me to purchase for the same price as Expedia / Kayak and then issues me ticket on 016 stock. In the past I thought the only way to do this was via award booking - I guess .bomb is getting a little .better!
May 30, 2014, 7:33 pm
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IME, its only on some routes that it will do this. I think some routes into Scandanavia on SAS (that was burried in another thread somewhere). And I was able to get the site to bring up YYZ-YUL flights on AC. But I've definitely looked up other international routes and getting the there are no flights between these two cities, even when there is a non-stop *A flight serving the route. In short, it depends.