Why Fly UA?

Old Jun 12, 13, 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by DL2SXM
why fly UA? IDK, thats a very good question. I mean, who in the world would want to fly UA from LAX to SYD on their dumpy 747's when with a little hiccup in the weather, they have to divert the queen of the skies... DL and Virgin fly 777's and can make it NS without the diversion in the event of bad WX.
Meh, I can list more reasons why I won't join SkyMiles [tiny Economy Comfort cabin, no international SWUs from mid-range Y fares, no F cabin or F award opportunities, SkyTeam, inflated award redemptions on DL metal, SkyClub continues downward spiral, limited SDC as in +/- 3 hours and N.A. only, etc]. I would know, I have flown extenstively on DL and UA over the last 3 years [in all cabins]. Yes, I have flown LAX-SYD on DL as well.

DL has its +/-, so does UA, it is all a matter of what is more important. Apparently, what DL offers to you is more important than UA, but that does not ring true for everyone.

For me:

1. SWUs/RPUs
2. E+
3. *A
4. UA's best-in-class award chart and rules
5. SDC
6. CPUs - when it actually works and they snap out of up-selling for a knock-off price [fare differential is fine]
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Old Jun 12, 13, 11:42 am
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1. IAD-SFO frequency. I moved from SF to the DC area 4 years ago and go back often to see family and friends. Nothing beats the 10 or so non-stops a day even if they're no longer on a widebody. With my girlfriend moving to Chicago for work, I'll be doing much more DCA-ORD trips and UA seems to have competitive fares and frequency with AA, with superior planes (I don't even want to chance being on an old, cramped MD-80).
2. *A. Most of my travel for work is short-haul east coast, which I do on US out of DCA. Needless to say I'm not happy that US is out and I'll likely be making the long slog to Dulles more often. Nice to be able to get anywhere in Europe on LH though, with good transatlantic service (I always book it over UA for no other reason than wine is still free in E). IMO MUC and even FRA are vastly superior to LHR and AMS for connections.
3. E+. I'm over 6'4", E- is pretty unbearable, even on short flights. That's the main reason I haven't switched to VX for my IAD-SFO flights.

And that's about it. As a Silver CPUs are way too few and far between so kind of irrelevant to me. Awards are hit-or-miss, and seem to be more difficult as of late, but I've only ever redeemed one award on DL years ago so I have little to compare it to.
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Old Jun 12, 13, 11:49 am
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Originally Posted by BrianCUnited
I don't even want to chance being on an old, cramped MD-80.
Yo, don't diss my old shoes.

There is absolutely nothing wrong or cramped about AA's M80 in either F or Y. IMO, the Mad Dog F (and Y for that matter) seats are more comfortable than AA or UA's 73s, 75s or 319/320s. That plus 100% WiFi, something that is but a pipe dream on UA.

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Old Jun 12, 13, 1:12 pm
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UA Flying

We used to fly UA a lot for a decade, my wife and I near 1mm combined, and I spent a lot of money keeping Silver across my family, until it was devalued. The deal breaker for me was loss of guaranteed E+.

Now I fly a la carte based on price, schedule convenience, and my assessment of scoring ToD or Hod (I discovered freedom, and I like it!), and from the savings of no longer driving to hit UA Premier, I pay ToD (Domestic) or HoD (International) and fly up front on discounted C or domestic F more often than not on various carriers. Two weeks ago I returned from Munich on US, with HoD upgrade to Envoy at a total cost that was less than UA's then economy ticket quote.

Things have changed so much that on my UA flight this Friday (in First, thanks to discounted F), I am crediting US dividend miles program. This would have been unthinkable 5 years back.

Still, thanks to Chase, we score a couple *A international first class tickets every couple years, that's about it.

Unless someone is *G or above, in the new era of ToD, HoD, or ala carte premium seat, lounge, etc purchasing, I just don't see the sense in paying as much or more to fly UA and generally get poorer service than on many other carriers.
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Old Jun 12, 13, 1:20 pm
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1. E+
2. Award availability
3. Actually scoring some upgrades on leisure routes during holidays
4. Flies where I need to go

I live near BWI so my location isn't a huge draw to stick with UA, but in the past I was in NJ by EWR so convenience won out. I guess momentum more than anything kept me loyal but as a frequent traveler in Asia, *A has a broad network.
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Old Jun 12, 13, 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by jsmirand
We used to fly UA a lot for a decade, my wife and I near 1mm combined, and I spent a lot of money keeping Silver across my family, until it was devalued. The deal breaker for me was loss of guaranteed E+.

Now I fly a la carte based on price, schedule convenience, and my assessment of scoring ToD or Hod (I discovered freedom, and I like it!), and from the savings of no longer driving to hit UA Premier, I pay ToD (Domestic) or HoD (International) and fly up front on discounted C or domestic F more often than not on various carriers. Two weeks ago I returned from Munich on US, with HoD upgrade to Envoy at a total cost that was less than UA's then economy ticket quote.

Things have changed so much that on my UA flight this Friday (in First, thanks to discounted F), I am crediting US dividend miles program. This would have been unthinkable 5 years back.

Still, thanks to Chase, we score a couple *A international first class tickets every couple years, that's about it.

Unless someone is *G or above, in the new era of ToD, HoD, or ala carte premium seat, lounge, etc purchasing, I just don't see the sense in paying as much or more to fly UA and generally get poorer service than on many other carriers.
I'm just being mean now - I know, I know .... but .... this is a thread about "Why I fly UA" - not "Why I don't fly UA anymore" - have a zillion threads for that topic, right?
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Old Jun 12, 13, 1:45 pm
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1. E+ for family as Plat/1K
2. Star Alliance means large network and a LH domestic lounge once in a while.
3. UA's miles have value
4. SDC . . . you don't appreciate it until you need it!
5. 1K bennies like Global Entry, GPUs/RPUs, and 100% mileage bonus

Their route network is best out of DEN, but I could always fly a competitor, especially if I'm willing to make a stop. So the above are the reasons.
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Old Jun 12, 13, 1:48 pm
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1. AA not an option for me from SEA (primarily Asia travel)
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Old Jun 12, 13, 2:08 pm
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Why I fly UA

Originally Posted by pindi
I'm just being mean now - I know, I know .... but .... this is a thread about "Why I fly UA" - not "Why I don't fly UA anymore" - have a zillion threads for that topic, right?
Apologies! You are correct! I fly UA because once every couple years I can go in global first for about $80 + 135k miles acquired through Chase!

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Old Jun 12, 13, 2:10 pm
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1. SDC is huge for me, it's allowed me to get home earlier from a trip on business travel and has also allowed me to extend vacation on personal travel (especially around holidays when I've booked a cheap fare for say Sunday of Memorial Day weekend and then been able to SDC it to Monday evening)...I fly DL enough to be silver and their 3 hour limitation is a killer
2. From DCA / IAD it's more convenient for non-stops especially transcon (AA DCA - LAX v.v is at terrible times)
3. Customer Facing Technology Interface: This might be a little more disputed but in my experience once I knew all the tricks and tips to navigate .bomb/mobile.bomb/.bombMobileApp, they actually provide much more information (fare classes, plane tracking, etc.) vs. the other majors, which can make a huge difference as often this information comes in handy during IRROPS when dealing with the 1K line (the flip side being the 1K line should have this knowledge without me force feeding it to them but that's another thread)
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Old Jun 12, 13, 2:19 pm
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Flying UA as my #2 choice

1) Lifetime 1K status.

As a BIS "lifer" (not one of those "infinity and beyonds" ), I get the status bonus miles so, UA is my second choice carrier behind AA. So, IF I have to be there at a certain time and/or UA is really got an El Cheapo fare, I will fly them. If they don't its AA or OW carriers.
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Old Jun 12, 13, 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by SFO777
Yo, don't diss my old shoes.

There is absolutely nothing wrong or cramped about AA's M80 in either F or Y. IMO, the Mad Dog F (and Y for that matter) seats are more comfortable than AA or UA's 73s, 75s or 319/320s. That plus 100% WiFi, something that is but a pipe dream on UA.
Fair enough, although without any CPUs on AA (even if I did all of my flying on AA I wouldn't fly near enough to be an EXP) I don't often experience F. Y is probably ok with main cabin extra, but i felt quite cramped on a STL-DCA flight recently. All of that being said, I like AA's new 738 - I flew on one of the new ones a few weeks back from ORD-DCA and it was quite comfortable. Recessed overhead bins and mood lighting.

Originally Posted by flyerdude88
3. Customer Facing Technology Interface: This might be a little more disputed but in my experience once I knew all the tricks and tips to navigate .bomb/mobile.bomb/.bombMobileApp, they actually provide much more information (fare classes, plane tracking, etc.) vs. the other majors, which can make a huge difference as often this information comes in handy during IRROPS when dealing with the 1K line (the flip side being the 1K line should have this knowledge without me force feeding it to them but that's another thread)
+1

I often forget how useful the app is in getting info in IRROPS until I'm on a different airline. Good luck getting any info out of the US mobile website! I didn't find out I'd missed a connection in PHL recently until I sprinted across the terminal only to find out the flight had left 8 min early. Agree that we shouldn't have to spoon-feed agents this info, but it's nice to have access to.
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Old Jun 12, 13, 4:00 pm
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Originally Posted by BrianCUnited
+1

I often forget how useful the app is in getting info in IRROPS until I'm on a different airline. Good luck getting any info out of the US mobile website! I didn't find out I'd missed a connection in PHL recently until I sprinted across the terminal only to find out the flight had left 8 min early. Agree that we shouldn't have to spoon-feed agents this info, but it's nice to have access to.
An additional +1!

As a bit of a nerd, I love all the information I have at my fingertips with UA.

It's kinda funny -- I spent an embarrassing amount of time trying to find US's mobile app during a recent trip before I realized that they don't have one.
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Old Jun 12, 13, 4:28 pm
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I have a choice flying from Toronto or Air Canada or United since i fly mainly to Asia.
Air Canada isn't even in the airline business its so bad. So for me UA is #1
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Old Jun 12, 13, 4:42 pm
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1) E+, but AA is installing this on their planes
2) CPU even though my % is only 50% as Gold
3) lifetime miles is significantly higher on UA than any other airline & I may hit 1 MM in the future
4) SDC as an option even though I've only used it once

If I ever fly 100k in a year, I think AA would be a better option due to the 8 SWU vs the 6 with class restrictions. But we'll see how that turns out after the US merger.
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