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Old Apr 9, 13, 12:21 am
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Air Dolomiti award/mileage/seating questions & issues

Is it possible to use UA awards to fly on LH flight numbers operated by Air Dolomiti? I find no availability on UA.com for flights from FRA to VRN using the award search. Am wondering if this is because it is not possible to use UA miles on these flights or if there is just no availabilty. I searched for months of april and may and found no availability any day so i thought it might be a glitch.
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Old Apr 9, 13, 1:58 am
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Yup, possible, I've done it in the past.

Others can correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK, Air Dolomiti, Lufthansa Cityline etc are all treated just like any other LH flight for awards purposes.

Btw: neat little regional carrier. Clean planes, friendly service.
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Old Apr 9, 13, 2:52 am
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Yup, possible, I've done it in the past.

Others can correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK, Air Dolomiti, Lufthansa Cityline etc are all treated just like any other LH flight for awards purposes.

Btw: neat little regional carrier. Clean planes, friendly service.
Correct. Great airline.
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Old Apr 9, 13, 3:27 am
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I agree, nice airlines. I was in F on Air Dolomiti and it was a little weird. I got to board he plane first but had to enter the rear of the aircraft and walk forward to my F seat. I was the only passenger in F and the last to leave the plane as we exited out the rear.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if you are just booking FRA - VRN, don't you have to call to book as it wont show up on Shares? Safe travels.
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The FRA to VRN flights are also not shown using the ANA search tool.
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So is there any resolution to the question of whether not finding any award availability on united.com for air dolomiti flights actually means there is no award space? I cannot find any at all on the flight (MUC-FLR) that I'm looking for. Could calling produce a different result? If yes, is there anything I should tell the agent to assist him/her in finding the award space?

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Old Aug 17, 13, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by phl82 View Post
I cannot find any at all on the flight (MUC-FLR) that I'm looking for. Could calling produce a different result?
Those flights are not eligible for Award redemption purposes as EN operates them under its own code.
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Lufthansa partner Airline Air Dolomiti United Credit

Is it possible to earn miles in a Star Alliance partner program (United Airlines Mileage Plus) while flying on a Lufthansa Flight operated by Air Dolomiti?

They say: "We received your request to credit your MileagePlus® account with the flight on February xxx, Venice to Munich. This flight was a code-share flight where Lufthansa had marketed the flight, but Air Dolomiti was the operating airlines. For a code-share flight, the miles are determined by the operating airlines. We are unable to credit your account because Air Dolomiti is not one of our partners."

My understanding is that Air Dolomiti is not a code-share partner of Lufthansa but totally owned by Lufthansa and part of Lufthansa Regional as much like Eurowings. This should come with full Star Alliance benefits right? they had for example pre-boarding for Star Gold.
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Originally Posted by thomas199023 View Post
My understanding is that Air Dolomiti is not a code-share partner of Lufthansa but totally owned by Lufthansa and part of Lufthansa Regional as much like Eurowings. This should come with full Star Alliance benefits right? they had for example pre-boarding for Star Gold.
It is wholly owned by Lufthansa. In theory, it is no different than flying Lufthansa. Good luck trying to convince United of this...
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Originally Posted by thomas199023 View Post
My understanding is that Air Dolomiti is not a code-share partner of Lufthansa but totally owned by Lufthansa and part of Lufthansa Regional as much like Eurowings. This should come with full Star Alliance benefits right? they had for example pre-boarding for Star Gold.
I don't think this is sufficient - for instance, Silkair is a fully-owned subsidiary of Singapore Airlines, but no mileage is earned for flying on Silkair (they don't do pre-boarding for Star Gold either, but I don't think Air Dolomiti choosing to do pre-boarding for Star Gold implies that you'll also get mileage).
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Originally Posted by thomas199023 View Post
Is it possible to earn miles in a Star Alliance partner program (United Airlines Mileage Plus) while flying on a Lufthansa Flight operated by Air Dolomiti?

They say: "We received your request to credit your MileagePlus® account with the flight on February xxx, Venice to Munich. This flight was a code-share flight where Lufthansa had marketed the flight, but Air Dolomiti was the operating airlines. For a code-share flight, the miles are determined by the operating airlines. We are unable to credit your account because Air Dolomiti is not one of our partners."

My understanding is that Air Dolomiti is not a code-share partner of Lufthansa but totally owned by Lufthansa and part of Lufthansa Regional as much like Eurowings. This should come with full Star Alliance benefits right? they had for example pre-boarding for Star Gold.
What relations does Air Dolomiti have with Lufthansa and Star Alliance?

Air Dolomiti is now owned by Lufthansa. This has allowed the Airline to change from a small business to become part of a worldwide group with the duty of creating value for it. As it is part of the Lufthansa Group, passengers who fly with Air Dolomiti can enjoy the benefits of the Star Alliance partners to which Lufthansa belongs, as Star Alliance is one of the most important airline networks worldwide. Air Dolomiti is also a member of Lufthansa Regional, the alliance created by Lufthansa to increase the quality and efficiency of the regional partners. Internally, the Airline maintains brand independence and its own industrial autonomy.

This is from: http://www.airdolomiti.eu/faq/inform...t-the-airline/

I would think for sure you would get bennies like additional baggage allowance, and I would think miles as well, though what's posted above doesn't say that explicitly.

I'm also VERY interested in tracking down the answer. I have a RT planned MUC-BRI on Air Dolomiti soon. I certainly will show them my UA 1K card to get my additional baggage allowance.

EDIT: I don't think you can/will earn UA miles on Air Dolomiti. Though you can earn Lufthansa Miles and More miles.
http://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/mark...ePartners.aspx
Air Dolomiti is NOT listed. Though GermanWings is! So, I think, no, you won't earn miles on them. Maybe in my case, I'll open a Miles & More account to get some credit. Bummer, I wanted to earn PQM & RDM. Oh well.

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Air Dolomiti award/mileage questions & issues

I must take 20+ flights a year on them, all LH flight numbers on LH ticket stock. Never had an issue with PQM posting to UAMP
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I have earned and redeemed miles on EN (Air Dolomiti) flights. It's been a few years, though. These count as LH flights IME and credit accordingly.

The reason GermanWings flights don't count is that LH established them expressly to not be part of *A so they wouldn't have to give out *A benefits. Every other LH subsidiary I've flown has credited fine.
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Originally Posted by thomas199023 View Post
My understanding is that Air Dolomiti is not a code-share partner of Lufthansa but totally owned by Lufthansa and part of Lufthansa Regional as much like Eurowings. This should come with full Star Alliance benefits right? they had for example pre-boarding for Star Gold.
EN can actually be both, depending on the route.

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I'm also VERY interested in tracking down the answer. I have a RT planned MUC-BRI on Air Dolomiti soon.
On both of these roues, EN markets flights using its own code and the LH flights are actual codeshares (which are not eligible for *A accumulation or redemption):

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.5/Diamond - Timetable/NL]
Code:
VCE  Venice Metro / Marco Polo IT = VCE TSF [LIPZ]
MUC  Munich Franz Josef Strauss DE [EDDM]
MON  01 Sep 2014 - 08 Sep 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ----------------------------------------------------------------
EN         8199    VCE   06:50     MUC   07:55     E95  0   1234567     01:05       -       2   21 Apr   25 Oct
LH/EN      9461    VCE   06:50     MUC   07:55     E95  0   1234567     01:05       -       2   21 Apr   25 Oct
EN         8201    VCE   09:20     MUC   10:25     E95  0   1234567     01:05       -       2   30 Mar   25 Oct
LH/EN      9455    VCE   09:20     MUC   10:25     E95  0   1234567     01:05       -       2   30 Mar   25 Oct
EN         8203    VCE   13:10     MUC   14:15     E95  0   1234567     01:05       -       2   30 Mar   25 Oct
LH/EN      9457    VCE   13:10     MUC   14:15     E95  0   1234567     01:05       -       2   30 Mar   25 Oct
EN         8205    VCE   16:00     MUC   17:05     E95  0   -----6-     01:05       -       2   05 Apr   18 Oct
LH/EN      9459    VCE   16:00     MUC   17:05     E95  0   -----6-     01:05       -       2   05 Apr   18 Oct
EN         8205    VCE   16:35     MUC   17:40     E95  0   12345-7     01:05       -       2   30 Mar   24 Oct
LH/EN      9459    VCE   16:35     MUC   17:40     E95  0   12345-7     01:05       -       2   30 Mar   24 Oct
EN         8237    VCE   19:55     MUC   21:00     E95  0   1234567     01:05       -       2   01 Sep   25 Oct
LH/EN      9453    VCE   19:55     MUC   21:00     E95  0   1234567     01:05       -       2   01 Sep   25 Oct
[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.5/Diamond - Timetable/NL]
Code:
MUC  Munich Franz Josef Strauss DE [EDDM]
BRI  Bari Palese IT [LIBD]
MON  01 Sep 2014 - 08 Sep 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ----------------------------------------------------------------
EN         8218    MUC   09:10     BRI   10:55     E95  0   1234567     01:45       2       -   30 Mar   25 Oct
LH/EN      9468    MUC   09:10     BRI   10:55     E95  0   1234567     01:45       2       -   30 Mar   25 Oct
EN         8220    MUC   15:15     BRI   17:00     E95  0   12345-7     01:45       2       -   25 May   03 Oct
LH/EN      9470    MUC   15:15     BRI   17:00     E95  0   12345-7     01:45       2       -   25 May   03 Oct
EN         8220    MUC   15:25     BRI   17:10     E95  0   -----6-     01:45       2       -   31 May   27 Sep
LH/EN      9470    MUC   15:25     BRI   17:10     E95  0   -----6-     01:45       2       -   31 May   27 Sep
In contrast, MUC-MXP flights are pseudo-codeshares and are eligible for *A redemption & accumulation:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.5/Diamond - Timetable/NL]
Code:
MUC  Munich Franz Josef Strauss DE [EDDM]
MXP  Milan Malpensa IT [LIMC]
MON  01 Sep 2014 - 08 Sep 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ----------------------------------------------------------------
LH/EN      1852    MUC   07:15     MXP   08:20     E95  0   12345--     01:05       2       1   01 Sep   24 Oct
LH/CL      1854    MUC   09:15     MXP   10:20     E95  0   12345-7     01:05       2       1   31 Aug   12 Sep
LH/CL      1854    MUC   09:20     MXP   10:25     E95  0   -----6-     01:05       2       1   06 Sep   13 Sep
LH/EN      1856    MUC   12:00     MXP   13:05     E95  0   1234567     01:05       2       1   01 Sep   08 Sep
LH/EN      1858    MUC   14:30     MXP   15:35     E95  0   1234567     01:05       2       1   01 Sep   08 Sep
LH/CL      1860    MUC   15:40     MXP   16:45     E95  0   12345-7     01:05       2       1   01 Sep   08 Sep
LH/EN      1862    MUC   18:30     MXP   19:35     E95  0   -----6-     01:05       2       1   23 Aug   25 Oct
NH/EN      6055    MUC   18:30     MXP   19:35     E95  0   -----6-     01:05       2       1   09 Aug   18 Oct
NH/EN      6055    MUC   18:35     MXP   19:40     E95  0   12345-7     01:05       2       1   24 Aug   15 Oct
LH/EN      1862    MUC   18:35     MXP   19:40     E95  0   12345-7     01:05       2       1   24 Aug   24 Oct
LH/EN      1864    MUC   21:25     MXP   22:30     E95  0   12345-7     01:05       2       1   01 Sep   24 Oct
LH/EN      1864    MUC   21:35     MXP   22:40     E95  0   -----6-     01:05       2       1   06 Sep   18 Oct
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Originally Posted by Wickersley View Post
I must take 20+ flights a year on them, all LH flight numbers on LH ticket stock. Never had an issue with PQM posting to UAMP
Originally Posted by exerda View Post
I have earned and redeemed miles on EN (Air Dolomiti) flights. It's been a few years, though. These count as LH flights IME and credit accordingly.
The reason GermanWings flights don't count is that LH established them expressly to not be part of *A so they wouldn't have to give out *A benefits. Every other LH subsidiary I've flown has credited fine.
Thank you both for this feedback.

Originally Posted by KVS View Post
On both of these roues, EN markets flights using its own code and the LH flights are actual codeshares (which are not eligible for *A accumulation or redemption):

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.5/Diamond - Timetable/NL]
Code:
MUC  Munich Franz Josef Strauss DE [EDDM]
BRI  Bari Palese IT [LIBD]
MON  01 Sep 2014 - 08 Sep 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ----------------------------------------------------------------
EN         8218    MUC   09:10     BRI   10:55     E95  0   1234567     01:45       2       -   30 Mar   25 Oct
LH/EN      9468    MUC   09:10     BRI   10:55     E95  0   1234567     01:45       2       -   30 Mar   25 Oct
EN         8220    MUC   15:15     BRI   17:00     E95  0   12345-7     01:45       2       -   25 May   03 Oct
LH/EN      9470    MUC   15:15     BRI   17:00     E95  0   12345-7     01:45       2       -   25 May   03 Oct
EN         8220    MUC   15:25     BRI   17:10     E95  0   -----6-     01:45       2       -   31 May   27 Sep
LH/EN      9470    MUC   15:25     BRI   17:10     E95  0   -----6-     01:45       2       -   31 May   27 Sep
My flight is EN8218. Is it correct to say that I should expect Star Alliance (UA MP) miles accrual for this flight?

I think it is.

How can you tell the difference between a codeshare and a pseudo-codeshare? Is it by flight number?
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