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BJfly Mar 13, 2013 7:29 pm

No / very limited E+???
 
LAS - EWR today in a 737-800. Only the exit rows were E+. Total of 12 seats. Since there were 24 names not cleared for upgrades, that means there were a whole lot of silvers and golds without E+.

How could I have know this at the time of booking so I could have avoided a non E+ plane? Even Seat Guru (when I was trying to select my seat) thought it was an E+ config.

Thank you,
BJFly

TimInSF Mar 13, 2013 7:34 pm

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Look at the seat map and select seats before purchasing? Seems pretty simple to me!

Tim

WineCountryUA Mar 13, 2013 7:34 pm


Originally Posted by BJfly (Post 20415670)
.... How could I have know this at the time of booking so I could have avoided a non E+ plane? ....

during the process of adding E+ to sCO aircraft, it came be a guessing game until all mainline aircraft are modified. Once you get within in a few days of travel, the actual aircraft is tentatively selected (with last minute changes possible). Guess you could try to avoid any aircraft type not yet 100% converted.


Originally Posted by TimInSF (Post 20415691)
... Look at the seat map and select seats before purchasing? Seems pretty simple to me!

Tim

except that is not reliable either way. (for aircraft type still in the conversion process)

mathgeek1978 Mar 13, 2013 9:27 pm


Originally Posted by BJfly (Post 20415670)
LAS - EWR today in a 737-800. Only the exit rows were E+. Total of 12 seats. Since there were 24 names not cleared for upgrades, that means there were a whole lot of silvers and golds without E+.

How could I have know this at the time of booking so I could have avoided a non E+ plane? Even Seat Guru (when I was trying to select my seat) thought it was an E+ config.

Thank you,
BJFly

Not that it will make a huge difference, but aren't there 6 bulkhead E+ also, making it a total of 18? (Rows 7, 20, and 21).

bmr12 Mar 13, 2013 10:06 pm

How many planes still don't offer a "normal" sized E+ cabin this long after the merger?

WineCountryUA Mar 13, 2013 10:16 pm


Originally Posted by bmr12 (Post 20416387)
How many planes still don't offer a "normal" sized E+ cabin this long after the merger?

It tracked here The United Airlines Fleet Website

of the sCO fleet, the 738 and 739 are the least complete and about 2/3s of them are done. The 735, 737 (non-Guam versions), 753, 763, 772, .... are mostly done.

wtigerFF Mar 13, 2013 10:41 pm


Originally Posted by BJfly (Post 20415670)
LAS - EWR today in a 737-800. Only the exit rows were E+. Total of 12 seats. Since there were 24 names not cleared for upgrades, that means there were a whole lot of silvers and golds without E+.

Did you take a connecting flight? I don't see a 737-800 LAS-EWR nonstop on 3/13 or 3/12; do I have the wrong day? According to the seat maps for Wed's nonstops, the only plane that wasn't E+ config was at 6am, UA1111 which was a 737-900.


Originally Posted by BJfly (Post 20415670)
How could I have know this at the time of booking so I could have avoided a non E+ plane? Even Seat Guru (when I was trying to select my seat) thought it was an E+ config.

There's always a possibility of an a/c swap but in general you could look for any 757-200 (there were several of those nonstop on 3/13) or an A319/A320 (didn't see any of these nonstop for 3/12 or 3/13)

BJfly Mar 15, 2013 6:08 am

No / very limited E+???
 
It was the non stop 6am, so I guess I had the exact plane model wrong. Sorry.

Often1 Mar 15, 2013 6:50 am

UA announced that it would take about a year to complete the switchover and the announcement was made last June. The update looks as though it's progressing apace. Remember, E+ is actually a hard product swap and needs to be FAA certified, not just a matter of boarding a new menu item.

Golds were free to select E+ at time of booking. Silver's likely SOL on this configuration because they can't select E+ until T-24. But, that's not unfair.

mkr Jul 7, 2013 12:45 pm

ECONOMY PLUS loses reserved seating capacity!
 
I was checking out seating availability for Monday July 8, flight UA1270. For the SEA-ANC leg, leaving SEA at 12:47 pm, rows 8-15 show for sale as Economy seating! These are normally reserved E+ seating. This is especially troubling since this is a Monday flight on a tourist-heavy route in July, which is high season for visiting Alaska!

Only 2 seats show for E+! Has anyone noticed reduced E+ reserved capacity on other flights?


What is happening here? Where is all the E+ seating? How will Premier Silvers get E+ seating at checkin time?

Is this the beginning of another way UA is possibly continuing to reduce benefits for Premier members?

mgcsinc Jul 7, 2013 12:53 pm


Originally Posted by mkr (Post 21055769)
I was checking out seating availability for Monday July 8, flight UA1270. For the SEA-ANC leg, leaving SEA at 12:47 pm, rows 8-15 show for sale as Economy seating! These are normally reserved E+ seating. This is especially troubling since this is a Monday flight on a tourist-heavy route in July, which is high season for visiting Alaska!

Only 2 seats show for E+! Has anyone noticed reduced E+ reserved capacity on other flights?


What is happening here? Where is all the E+ seating? How will Premier Silvers get E+ seating at checkin time?

Is this the beginning of another way UA is possibly continuing to reduce benefits for Premier members?

Take a deep breath. That flight will be operated on a/c #3451, a 737-900 with no E+ seating.

Happily, though, the seats toward the front of the plane are reserved for premiers, including Silvers. But they're not E+.

mduell Jul 7, 2013 12:55 pm

Hard to sell E+ on a plane that doesn't have it...

mkr Jul 7, 2013 12:58 pm


Originally Posted by mgcsinc (Post 21055794)
.... That flight will be operated on a/c #3451, a 737-900 with no E+ seating.....

Thanks mgcsinc for your response. Would you mind informing me where did you get the information for the a/c #3451 to know that it does not have E+ seating? Thanks

aacharya Jul 7, 2013 1:40 pm


Originally Posted by mkr (Post 21055815)
Thanks mgcsinc for your response. Would you mind informing me where did you get the information for the a/c #3451 to know that it does not have E+ seating? Thanks

Umm, United Fleet Status?

https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/

But why not go with your original post/conspiracy theory, in bold and in all red to boot? FT (at least this forum) has really gone downhill, with folks posting without a lick of research - and everything being linked to a status downgrade for Premiers.

mherdeg Jul 7, 2013 1:41 pm


Originally Posted by mkr (Post 21055815)
Thanks mgcsinc for your response. Would you mind informing me where did you get the information for the a/c #3451 to know that it does not have E+ seating? Thanks

The folks who maintain the fleet page at http://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/ do a great job — navigate to United Mainline Fleet ==>> Boeing 737-900 ===> and filter down to AIRCRAFT = 3451.

You can get the ship number for your flight from the united.com "flight status" page or from the mobile.united.com status page — both will say what aircraft number is assigned to operate your flight.


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