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An Island Hopper [Micronesia] Definitive Guide on Where to Sit [UA B737] {this thread}

FAQs derived from findark's post (post #500)
What is the Island Hopper?

The Island Hopper is a United route between Honolulu and Guam, stopping at the islands of Majuro, Kwajaelin, Kosrae, Pohnpei, and Chuuk in between. The Island Hopper operates in both directions, and skips Pohnpei on certain days. You are allowed to get off the plane and "transit" at each stop except for Kwajaelin, which is a US Army base.

This route is similar to Alaska Airlines' "milk run" routes in rural Alaska. All of these routes serve as lifelines for the residents living in areas served by the routes, as the sole connection providing supplies and transportation to/from the rest of the world.

What is the Island Hopper schedule (as of 1/14/19)?
UA154 (the full Hopper) departs HNL Mon/Fri and flies HNL-MAJ-KWA-KSA-PNI-TKK-GUM.
The shorter UA154 flies from HNL on Wed and does HNL-MAJ-KWA-PNI-TKK-GUM (skips KSA).
UA132 departs Sun and flies HNL-MAJ-KSA-PNI-TKK-GUM (skips KWA).

UA193 (GUM-ROR-MNL)departs GUM on the evenings of Tue/Fri and flies GUM-ROR-MNL.

The Hopper arrives around 1800+1, so in order to do the entire flight without a stopover you would need to depart HNL on UA154 on Monday morning.


Should I experience the Hopper?

If you like hopping through short segments, with beautiful island views, as well as a constant parade of amazing cloudscape between islands, the Island Hopper may be for you!

Which direction (west or east) is better?

The prevailing wisdom here seems to be in favor of taking UA154 (HNL-GUM). findark did 155 from GUM to HNL, and I think there were some overlooked benefits. The eastbound Hopper has the advantage of doing all the fun stuff in the morning and afternoon when you're fresh and eager to enjoy. 14 hours onboard a 737 is a long time*, and doing it eastbound you can give in to the exhaustion and conk out for the final MAJ-HNL segment. Even the HNL arrival was actually not too bad - it's only 10:50pm Guam time, so if you head on to a hotel you're pretty much in line for a night's sleep.

The most notable downside of taking the Hopper eastbound is that you visit MAJ in darkness. We ran about 25m late the whole way, and it was full dark by the time we touched down in MAJ. Whichever way you go, don't do it on a Wednesday! Kosrae was my favorite island, and it would be a shame to miss it.

*And, I learned, while the flight mechanic hops off in MAJ and the pilots get to work in shifts, the cabin crew are on duty for the whole 14 hours. They were understandably a bit burnt out by the middle of MAJ-HNL, but were simply outstanding nonetheless - greeting kids and handing out wings as they boarded in MAJ.


What's with the plane configuration?

The Hopper is currently flown by a GUM subfleet 737-800 (currently Version 4 on the United website - Row 1 is set back several inches which yields fewer E+ seats). The seatmap is loaded as the "Asia local" 737 map, which looks roughly like a 737-700. Like with other "generic" maps, it will update to the full seatmap about 4 days before departure, when the additional rows will appear.

1AB are blocked for the augmented flight crew, who change places with the pilots in the cockpit at MAJ. 2AB are also blocked because the crew rest seats at 1AB will recline until almost touching row 2, and it is usually used for crew storage.

Where should I sit?

The key here is understanding approach and wind patterns, along with each airport's runway configuration. The following stops and runways are on the north side of their respective islands:

TKK (4/22), PNI (9/27), KSA (5/23)

The following stops have runways on the south side of their atolls:

KWA (6/24), MAJ (7/25)

The prevailing winds at this latitude blow from the east, so a typical landing goes from west to east (into the wind). Therefore, in order to have best views on final approach and initial takeoff, you want to be on the starboard (right, F) side for TKK, PNI, and KSA, and on the port (left, A) side for KWA and MAJ. If you are flying westbound, or you land backwards at any stop on the eastbound flight, then the flight may need to position into the approach, usually by overflying the island at higher altitude out to sea. In this case, both sides of the aircraft will get views, although the closer views belong to the "correct" side. In my case, we landed "backwards" on 22 at TKK, and used the regular 9, 5, 6, and 7 at the other stops.

You should absolutely have a window seat - why else are you here?! The best seats are therefore any window in the Business cabin (note that 1A and 2A are blocked), 7AF and 8AF in Economy Plus (10AF has a misaligned window but is okay, the missing window will kill you in 11 and then the wing really starts intruding), and anything nice and far behind the wing in Economy. In this vein, I declined an upgrade on GUM-TKK since only 2E was left, and we flew in 4A/7F, 2F/4A, 2F/3F, 3A/4A, 3A/4A, 2F/7F.


What can I do at the stops?

The best thing to do is get off the plane! You can take tarmac photos and get amazing close-ups of the plane. You will then be shepherded into the gate area, where there are restrooms (some lacking soap and/or towels) and often locals selling souvenirs and snacks. On our trip, the most substantial souvenirs were available at MAJ. If the flight is running late they will make an announcement requesting transfer pax to stay on the plane; however, as obviously savvy travelers who were along for the whole ride and could get on/off quickly with no bags to stow, we got absolutely no pushback from the purser whenever we went outside anyway.

If you do disembark, you are required to take all carry-on baggage with you. They conduct a security sweep onboard the aircraft and will remove unclaimed bags. As is mentioned many times in this thread, KWA is the exception - as it's a US Army base you cannot get off unless ticketed to there. On our flight, we were requested not to take photographs but were allowed to look out the window. I didn't see anything terribly interesting.

You can also use WiFi in the terminal/transit area when you disembark and at some stops you can get your passport stamped. MAJ, PNI, and KSA have confirmed free WiFi. Passport stamps have been confirmed at PNI, KSA, TKK without "exiting" just ask security about getting a stamp at these 3 airports and they should be able to accommodate you.

Should I check my bags?

Yes. As annoying as it was to wait ~10 minutes for our bags in HNL, it was a lot less annoying than having to haul them around each stop, and find bin space again once on board.


What is the food situation?

Going east is a slightly different meal schedule than west. GUM-TKK and KSA-KWA are coded Snack, and MAJ-HNL is Dinner. The first and last meals are reasonably substantial in J (think like a Breakfast and Dinner code) and somewhat small in Y (somewhat less than a meal in int'l Y - was six pieces of fruit and a muffin in the morning, followed by a turkey sandwich for dinner). The middle snack was just a pass of the snack basket up front; neither of us sat in Y that segment but I would guess they just offered almonds. Additionally, every segment they were offering J pax some packaged almonds.

My general verdict is if going the distance in Y, pack some snacks or buy them at the stops along the way. If you're in J then there's enough food for 14 hours of sitting.


And how about IFE?

Look outside! That's actually about all the IFE there is. The GUM fleet has no WiFi and only DirecTV. Note that DirecTV does not work outside of CONUS, so really it just has the 8-10 looping movies of DirecTV (slightly different movie set for an Asian audience). The movie loop resets at each stop, so unless you want to watch the first 1h30 of a movie six times, there's not much use to the IFE. It is at least free in Y. I brought a book and read it for the middle 20 minutes of each segment and until I fell sleep on MAJ-HNL.


Can I get an upgrade on the Hopper?

Empirically, yes! We were offered upgrades of 11/12 eligible segments; I declined a GUM-TKK upgrade to keep my window, and my companion's MAJ-HNL upgrade was eaten by UA IT (agent in MAJ apologized profusely but understandably wasn't going to remove the already-handed-out upgrades to the next 2 pax on the list).

In order to have any shot, however, you need to be able to split the direct flight into six segments. This generally cannot be done on a mileage ticket or a paid through fare, and would need to be done via multi-city ticketing if visiting an island. In my case, I spent a very long time getting an extremely wonderful pmCO agent who was able to hack my ticket together with 9 connections on the way home. As this is also the only way to choose different views for the different approach directions, I recommend asking for this rather than for upgrades. It causes quite the headache for UA systems, but in the end I felt like it was a huge benefit to fly pretty much all of it in J. Absolutely something I credit to the value of being 1K: I was able to ring the 1K desk many times to get agents to deal with the various hiccups that came along with a PNR that had eight tickets and at one point 36 segments attached to it.

The first five Hopper segments (going east) are CPU eligible; MAJ/HNL requires a GPU. We had GPUs on our reservation and did a mixture of advance clearing and clearing at the gates in the islands (where amazingly enough they had the new J BPs waiting!).


Where to stay and what to do in GUM and HNL?

I think this depends on lot on which way you're going. Flying east, we arrived in GUM around 11pm (maximizing time in Tokyo, but not crazy enough for the 2am arrival), and spent the night at the Days Inn Tamuning. It was at the very bottom of my quality standards, but quite affordable and with 9h45 of total ground time all in the dark I did not want to pay double for a beachfront property I would never enjoy.

In HNL, I took up the excellent recommendation in this thread of the Best Western Plaza Honolulu. It was the cheapest of the few airport hotels in HNL. Having cleared customs by 3:45 (we arrived late), it was off to bed quickly. The arrival is only ~11pm Guam time, so I highly recommend going straight to a bed on arrival in HNL. Afterwards, we took advantage of the 24h connect rule to spend the whole day in HNL before continuing on home to SFO. We were pretty exhausted after another redeye home, but the beach time in Hawaii was well worth it, especially after being taunted by all the beautiful mid-Pacific islands.

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Old Feb 2, 2018, 1:05 pm
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Really? That's surprising. I'd expect it to reprice it based on the full itinerary once it figures out that it's a direct flight. I take it back then, as most of the discount fares disallow transfers at any of the intermediate islands.
So I think OP said Google Flights, about which I'm unsure. The United site will not post-fix a multi-city break into a single direct flight.
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Originally Posted by MNSWEEps
Sorry I am not good at Google flights query. Can someone please post a sample flight query for forcing the UA154 in my itinerary. I would love to have Guam (or MNL) as final destination and my origin is LAX. We are 3 of us and the island hopper is on our bucket list to be done sometime in later half of the year :-) I searched but couldn't find one working link ...
On GF you'll just have to play around with RT/multicity.

You can specify flights on ITA using UA for any UA flight, UA+ for one or more, and UA154 for a specific one.

Many of the cheap fares are actually USA-HKG so you wouldn't be able to stop in GUM (except maybe for a fee). Curiously, my $441 fare seems to prohibit GUM stops altogether.

2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH DIRECTION AT USD 100.00 EACH NONE IN GUAM PERMITTED IN AREA 3
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Many of the cheap fares are actually USA-HKG so you wouldn't be able to stop in GUM (except maybe for a fee). Curiously, my $441 fare seems to prohibit GUM stops altogether.
This is a common part of the fare rule templates they use for TPAC fares. Despite the recent drawdown in service at GUM, UA is aware that it's got a monopoly there, and they're really not interested in offering discounted fares to GUM at all. (OT, but I mean "monopoly" literally, at least for domestic travel to/from GUM; cabotage laws prohibit foreign carriers from offering service between GUM and any other domestic point, and DL recently pulled out of the market).
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Originally Posted by findark
Patience, and acquiescence if it doesn't work. It took me three calls, all of which I received willing agents who spent over an hour trying to get it done. Only the third was a legacy pmCO agent who knew what she actually had to do (namely, delete the through segment and manually add confirmed segments for each Hopper piece, and reissue the tickets). Note that it almost certainly requires manually ticketing something which is in flagrant violation of the fare rules, so that you are definitely receiving a favor. Some of the ground staff along the way have seen enough of us with split segments that they grumbled about "gaming the system" for upgrades (makes them do more work).

I think "I was really hoping for different seat assignments on the different segments" is probably the best approach.
Despite two phone calls and the Twitter request, I couldn’t find an agent who would do it. One person I know said they know the process, but weren’t at work to attempt it. Not a huge deal, as I still ended up with six BPs (changed seats for various segs to get good views). The extra EQMs would’ve been nice, but overall still an enjoyable trip! Managed to get stamps at all of the stops, obv. except for KWA. Hope to go back for a true visit someday.
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I have not posted here for a while (and have not flown United for a while). I am going to be on the island hopper flight (UA154) all the way from HNL to GUM this Friday. Just curious - is anyone here also going to be on the same flight?
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I have not posted here for a while (and have not flown United for a while). I am going to be on the island hopper flight (UA154) all the way from HNL to GUM this Friday. Just curious - is anyone here also going to be on the same flight?
Nope. I’m on the Monday one

Which makes me think - anyone know if, at the intermediate stops, credit cards are accepted for stuff - or should I have cash? I don’t know what’s for sale there, but I feel like I should buy something.
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Cash, until GUM.

Do not think "W.H. Smith". Think "Garage Sale".
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Cash, until GUM.

Do not think "W.H. Smith". Think "Garage Sale".
Hahaha. Fair enough. Are prices ridiculous or somewhat reasonable? Wondering how much cash to carry (have no USDs, need to go exchange).
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I wasn't into island trinkets so didn't go comparison shopping, but food was a couple of bucks. There are absolutely no postcards, that I can tell you.

MAJ has a snack shop where you go up to a window. The other islands it's more common to see two card tables and a cooler. One card table will have snacks like banana chips and the other island trinkets. This isn't Singapore or Dubai.
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Reasonable prices.
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I wasn't into island trinkets so didn't go comparison shopping, but food was a couple of bucks. There are absolutely no postcards, that I can tell you.

MAJ has a snack shop where you go up to a window. The other islands it's more common to see two card tables and a cooler. One card table will have snacks like banana chips and the other island trinkets. This isn't Singapore or Dubai.
ARGH! That was my next question.
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Most of the island trinkets are $2 to $5 also - I got some coasters for something it that range in MAJ, and PNI had seashells for $2.
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Most of the island trinkets are $2 to $5 also - I got some coasters for something it that range in MAJ, and PNI had seashells for $2.
Oh, awesome! Ok, that gives me a decent idea.

Now to get the segment split... called an agent, she worked on it for a good half an hour, and failed. Then she told me she'd have to reprice the flight if she split everything. I guess I will have to try again after departure, maybe more luck then ... afraid the seat will disappear. I'm on the F side, going HNL-GUM now, that's the right location for 60% of the flights based on the wiki, right? So even if I don't get individual assignments, I should be OK? (at the moment, both sides are open)
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Now to get the segment split...
I was unable to do that, and my reservation got quite screwed up when they worked it. See upthread.

When you check in at a kiosk, you can select seats segment by segment.

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Now to get the segment split... called an agent, she worked on it for a good half an hour, and failed. Then she told me she'd have to reprice the flight if she split everything. I guess I will have to try again after departure, maybe more luck then ... afraid the seat will disappear. I'm on the F side, going HNL-GUM now, that's the right location for 60% of the flights based on the wiki, right? So even if I don't get individual assignments, I should be OK? (at the moment, both sides are open)
Basically yes. Going from HNL to GUM, with normal winds you will overfly all the islands anyway so both sides of the plane should get some view at each stop.

Splitting segments requires a titanic effort - probably only worthwhile if you're angling for upgrades.
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