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points_maniac Dec 3, 2014 7:10 pm


Originally Posted by mmack (Post 23936481)
Where is DIA? Denver?

People mistakenly call it DIA when it should be DEN. Drives me nuts.

PV_Premier Dec 3, 2014 7:29 pm


Originally Posted by PushingTin (Post 23935548)
I flew FRA-DEN on a Friday and there were 18 seats available and 6 went empty in C. I've avoided the LH flight because I thought I would be better off on UA with a GPU. I'm not so sure. DEN-FRA beats DEN-ORD-FRA/MUC/BRU.

there are certain LH flights where the GPU strategy is a dicey one, but i would think that more often than not, FRA-DEN would work out well. out of IAD i would not bank on it, particularly since advance R availability is slightly less rare than a hen's tooth on the UA flights to FRA and MUC.

i was going to try a GPU on BLR-FRA-LAX on all LH metal, but i wasn't enough of a gambler given that MUC-IAH had R9 when i booked it. ended up also clearing easily on LH flight BOM-MUC with a largely empty new J cabin, happy day.

MrOCTeckels Dec 3, 2014 7:38 pm


Originally Posted by points_maniac (Post 23938790)
People mistakenly call it DIA when it should be DEN. Drives me nuts.

Sadly you'll continue to be driven nuts... the Denver Department of Aviation continues to refer to Denver International Airport as DIA. Guess it's DIA groundside, DEN airside. :)

(I thought I remembered the airport being KDIA during the period when baggage structural integrity was being tested, back before Stapleton closed and passed off the KDEN code, but I can't find evidence of that in the Google machine.)

Getting back on topic... now that there are reports of Jan 2015 GPUs being extended, in the past has anyone managed to get extended GPUs printed for LH?

boognish24 Dec 4, 2014 2:41 am


Originally Posted by points_maniac (Post 23938790)
People mistakenly call it DIA when it should be DEN. Drives me nuts.

most common folk 'round these parts call it DIA, I guess I just picked it up from them when I moved here. Deepest apologies for driving you nuts

ironmanjt Dec 5, 2014 5:17 am

Update to Lufthansa (LH) GPU Certificate Request Process
 
Warning: the electronic system is now in effect "for select flights and United knows which flights these are." I just showed up at the gate with a paper certificate and was denied because "the new electronic system does not allow upgrades with these paper certificates." Escalated to a supervisor, who denied it as well. Ugh. Screaming babies here I come.

oliver2002 Dec 5, 2014 5:40 am

Interesting. Can you disclose the date and flight number? It must be a flight that was moved to the new Altea based DCS, which LH call the CITP.

SFOTerry Dec 5, 2014 6:15 am

What is "the electronic system"?

IADFlyer123 Dec 5, 2014 7:29 am


Originally Posted by SFOTerry (Post 23946296)
What is "the electronic system"?

There was an announcement that LH would now allow UA GPU's to be applied online as compared to paper ones earlier. Details are sketchy and it was to be implemented back in August/ September. But looks like it is live now on some flights. I believe Wiki has some info on it.

MrOCTeckels Dec 5, 2014 9:22 am

I don't see anything in the wiki, but the relevant thread is http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...lufthansa.html

weero Dec 5, 2014 9:46 am


Originally Posted by MrOCTeckels (Post 23947158)
I don't see anything in the wiki, but the relevant thread is http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...lufthansa.html

Or here also circulated by the same OP.

But UA's documentation has not yet changed. I am pretty sure that this is a non-starter.

spearsba Dec 5, 2014 1:27 pm

I just called the MP service desk and requested a paper cert for a LH flight in early Jan 15. Agent was very helpful and said the electonic GPU with LH was not happening anytime soon.

ironmanjt Dec 5, 2014 2:39 pm


Originally Posted by spearsba (Post 23948435)
I just called the MP service desk and requested a paper cert for a LH flight in early Jan 15. Agent was very helpful and said the electonic GPU with LH was not happening anytime soon.

Too bad.

Agent at FRA today told me 40% of flights have been migrated to the new system, and for those flights paper SWUs will not be accepted. Period.

This appears to mean we can't upgrade 40% of Lufthansa flights for now...

I was on FRA-BEY today...10 rows of business nearly empty, and I was packed in coach with the screaming babies...of which there were at least 20. Ugh.


Originally Posted by spearsba (Post 23948435)
I just called the MP service desk and requested a paper cert for a LH flight in early Jan 15. Agent was very helpful and said the electonic GPU with LH was not happening anytime soon.

Be warned, regardless if UA gives you a paper cert or not, it's not going to be useable on "some" LH flights.

They told me it was 40% of flights, but there was a guy with a badge saying "IT Support" assisting the gate agents, so I'm hopeful I just got super unlucky on this flight.

foppishbum Dec 5, 2014 6:19 pm

I have a V-fare booked for July 2015, PRG-FRA-LAX (LH1395/450) on 016 ticket stock. I called the MileagePlus Service Desk and they told me everything is transitioning to electronic system and said it would be better that I wait until June to check online. My questions are:

1. let's assume my flight is the 40% that already migrated to the new system, I booked it before it was migrated so does my itinerary automatically migrate to the new system enabling me to use electronic certificate? How can I check on that?

2. If it automatically migrates to the new system, do I still go on United.com > Manage Reservations > View, then Upgrade Reservation? Or is there a special website I have to go to? Currently, it is still saying "online upgrade not available".

3. LH is adding Premium Economy to long-haul flights and from what I know, is said to complete by mid-summer 2015. If I apply my GPU then, is it going to be Economy -> Premium Economy? Or is it still going to be Economy -> Business? I suspect GPU only allows one-up, eh?

I'm sure that nobody can answer my questions right now with complete certainty but hopefully UA and LH will clarify applying GPU on LH flights very soon. :)

MrOCTeckels Dec 5, 2014 8:38 pm

foppishbum, there are two "electronic systems" being discussed.

It sounds like ironmanjt is talking about the new software at the gates currently being deployed by LH. It sounds like they're rolling that out fully in FRA/MUC first, which doesn't bode well for using a paper GPU departing from Germany.

MP was telling you about a new electronic redemption process for GPUs (see the links a few posts up), which may come on line this spring.

If the new departure management system really does require electronic GPUs, I think I'm going to start being pessimistic about my chances of a C->F GPU in March.

andyh64000 Dec 5, 2014 8:51 pm

I guess I will avoid flying LH for a while.


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