Status of United's 787 Fleet
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Perfect example of government regulators stepping in as appropriate.
While some companies managed to self-regulate and work to address the problem without government intervention (JL, NH), other companies chose to continue operating the plane until required by authorities to cease (UA).
While some companies managed to self-regulate and work to address the problem without government intervention (JL, NH), other companies chose to continue operating the plane until required by authorities to cease (UA).

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Perfect example of government regulators stepping in as appropriate.
While some companies managed to self-regulate and work to address the problem without government intervention (JL, NH), other companies chose to continue operating the plane until required by authorities to cease (UA).
While some companies managed to self-regulate and work to address the problem without government intervention (JL, NH), other companies chose to continue operating the plane until required by authorities to cease (UA).

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LO flew their inaugural 787 to ORD today, the plane is currently at ORD, supposed to head out to WAW for the inaugural flight this evening, I wonder if they ll be allowed to get off the ground??

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Solves the issue someone posted yesterday about trying to change their ex-NRT flight to different equipment.
Glad to see they're taking some action though, and hopefully they can fix all the kinks in this bird...it's got great potential!
Glad to see they're taking some action though, and hopefully they can fix all the kinks in this bird...it's got great potential!

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World's leading Airplane!
The 787 has been one snafu after another, at least nobody's been hurt (yet) from Boeing's nightmareliner
The 787 has been one snafu after another, at least nobody's been hurt (yet) from Boeing's nightmareliner

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Just talked to an agent in SLC who said that they got a bulletin "two minutes ago" that the 787s have been inspected and are flying as scheduled. He didn't know anything about any groundings.

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Perfect example of government regulators stepping in as appropriate.
While some companies managed to self-regulate and work to address the problem without government intervention (JL, NH), other companies chose to continue operating the plane until required by authorities to cease (UA).
While some companies managed to self-regulate and work to address the problem without government intervention (JL, NH), other companies chose to continue operating the plane until required by authorities to cease (UA).
FAA certified the airworthiness of the 787, and is now in CYA mode...
http://www.seattlepi.com/business/sl...tion-30547.php

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The FAA AD has no authority over the operation of a LOT aircraft; however, good sense suggests that they would ground the plane too ... plus most regulatory bodies worldwide follow in the footsteps of the FAA on issues like this.

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UA should've just grounded the 787 earlier; now it just looks bad that the FAA had to step in. I know hindsight is 20/20, but from what was happening with other 787 operators, it would have been prudent thing to do.

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Perfect example of government regulators stepping in as appropriate.
While some companies managed to self-regulate and work to address the problem without government intervention (JL, NH), other companies chose to continue operating the plane until required by authorities to cease (UA).
While some companies managed to self-regulate and work to address the problem without government intervention (JL, NH), other companies chose to continue operating the plane until required by authorities to cease (UA).

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Perfect example of government regulators stepping in as appropriate.
While some companies managed to self-regulate and work to address the problem without government intervention (JL, NH), other companies chose to continue operating the plane until required by authorities to cease (UA).
While some companies managed to self-regulate and work to address the problem without government intervention (JL, NH), other companies chose to continue operating the plane until required by authorities to cease (UA).
Just sayin'.

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Take a look at what happened with the A380's introduction and major technical problems (and grounding) therein.
Take a look at all the other times the FAA has issued groundings for technical faults in existing airplane model.
This is a significant issue. But no need to declare the plane a failure.

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They know now...agent checking on the rebooking procedure (options, etc.).

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Take a look at what happened with the A380's introduction and major technical problems (and grounding) therein.
Take a look at all the other times the FAA has issued groundings for technical faults in existing airplane model.
This is a significant issue. But no need to declare the plane a failure.
(I could be incorrect.. )
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United can only determine compliance with FAA standards, and until the FAA's decision to issue an emergency AD an hour ago, United's 787s were. Keep in mind that NH and JL 787s have each been involved in a serious battery-related event within the last week or so. There's far more egg on their faces, and perhaps to get ahead of a passenger uproar, they decided to preemptively ground their fleet until further notice. United, on the other hand, continued to safely operate their FAA-certificated 787s until the AD required them to stand down.
