UA segments entirely outside the US
Nov 11, 2012, 9:47 am
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UA segments entirely outside the US
Now that UA requires 4 segments on its own metal for any premier status, someone who can't touch US soil for whatever reason has a difficult task to reach or maintain status. Yet, fortunately, there are still some flights operated by UA metal entirely outside the US, and for which UA has carriage rights. I found these:
Middle East:
BAH-KWI
DOH-DXB
Far East:
HKG-SGN
HKG-SIN
NRT-BKK
NRT-HKG
NRT-ICN
NRT-SIN
MNL-ROR
ROR-YAP
Any others? Anything in Europe or the Americas?
Middle East:
BAH-KWI
DOH-DXB
Far East:
HKG-SGN
HKG-SIN
NRT-BKK
NRT-HKG
NRT-ICN
NRT-SIN
MNL-ROR
ROR-YAP
Any others? Anything in Europe or the Americas?
Nov 11, 2012, 9:54 am
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Now that UA requires 4 segments on its own metal for any premier status, someone who can't touch US soil for whatever reason has a difficult task to reach or maintain status. Yet, fortunately, there are still some flights operated by UA metal entirely outside the US, and for which UA has carriage rights. I found these:
Middle East:
BAH-KWI
DOH-DXB
Far East:
HKG-SGN
HKG-SIN
NRT-BKK
NRT-HKG
NRT-ICN
NRT-SIN
MNL-ROR
ROR-YAP
Any others? Anything in Europe or the Americas?
Middle East:
BAH-KWI
DOH-DXB
Far East:
HKG-SGN
HKG-SIN
NRT-BKK
NRT-HKG
NRT-ICN
NRT-SIN
MNL-ROR
ROR-YAP
Any others? Anything in Europe or the Americas?
Why not simply find a friend with a US street address and get the UA club card? Unless of course the flyer doesn't even have a US Social Security number.
Nov 11, 2012, 9:54 am
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SYD-MEL, however due to cabotage rules this can only be booked as a part of an international itinerary, so doesn't really help as far as avoiding the US.
Nov 11, 2012, 9:56 am
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Now that UA requires 4 segments on its own metal for any premier status, someone who can't touch US soil for whatever reason has a difficult task to reach or maintain status. Yet, fortunately, there are still some flights operated by UA metal entirely outside the US, and for which UA has carriage rights. I found these:
Middle East:
BAH-KWI
DOH-DXB
Far East:
HKG-SGN
HKG-SIN
NRT-BKK
NRT-HKG
NRT-ICN
NRT-SIN
MNL-ROR
ROR-YAP
Any others? Anything in Europe or the Americas?
Middle East:
BAH-KWI
DOH-DXB
Far East:
HKG-SGN
HKG-SIN
NRT-BKK
NRT-HKG
NRT-ICN
NRT-SIN
MNL-ROR
ROR-YAP
Any others? Anything in Europe or the Americas?
Don't Copa flights within Latin America count?
Nov 11, 2012, 9:58 am
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Nov 11, 2012, 10:01 am
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Nov 11, 2012, 10:20 am
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But yes, by my estimation there are about 6.6 billion people who don't even have a US Social Security number.
Nov 11, 2012, 10:35 am
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How about someone living outside the US and for immigration reason (pending petition, for example) and can't visit the US until the paperwork processes? I know someone who was exactly in this situation for a couple of years. He did not have status to maintain, but what if he did? Losing status and then rebuilding it is a lot more painful than just keeping it for one or two bridge years.
Nov 11, 2012, 10:56 am
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How about someone living outside the US and for immigration reason (pending petition, for example) and can't visit the US until the paperwork processes? I know someone who was exactly in this situation for a couple of years. He did not have status to maintain, but what if he did? Losing status and then rebuilding it is a lot more painful than just keeping it for one or two bridge years.
For example, from the UK, you're fine to visit LHR-EWR, but may get rejected at CBP if you're pending. Depends on the reason for your visit. From let's say, Nepal, well, you'd have needed a visa, so you're fine.
Either way, you'll still get the miles.
Nov 11, 2012, 11:44 am
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For purposes of this discussion, I would just assume that there are some # of people who know that they will be refused entry to the US. All kinds of reasons for that, some pretty benign and others not so benign.
In the final analysis, if you can't get your 4 segments, you don't get status. No different than the guy who undergoes surgery and can't fly for a year. He loses it too.
In the final analysis, if you can't get your 4 segments, you don't get status. No different than the guy who undergoes surgery and can't fly for a year. He loses it too.
Nov 11, 2012, 12:53 pm
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TITCR. One can become in admissible to the US for a variety of reasons. A lot of them on the minor side of trouble. It extends to other countries as well, people are inadmissible to Canada if they have convicted of DWI.
Nov 11, 2012, 1:06 pm
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For purposes of this discussion, I would just assume that there are some # of people who know that they will be refused entry to the US. All kinds of reasons for that, some pretty benign and others not so benign.
In the final analysis, if you can't get your 4 segments, you don't get status. No different than the guy who undergoes surgery and can't fly for a year. He loses it too.
In the final analysis, if you can't get your 4 segments, you don't get status. No different than the guy who undergoes surgery and can't fly for a year. He loses it too.
Last edited by iluv2fly; Nov 11, 2012 at 3:19 pm Reason: merge
Nov 11, 2012, 1:13 pm
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I can't help but to wonder aloud why someone who can't touch US soil would want to work so hard to get status on UA. Yes, some have hypothesized in this thread, but, still would be nice to know the logic here.