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02BNFR Oct 2, 12 5:28 pm

Consolidated "UA 757-300 Seating, IFE, etc." Thread
 
I just booked a flight from SFO to IAD on a 757-300, and when I went to select seats, the seat map indicated that there was no economy plus section on the plan at all. There were plenty of seats available in what is usually the economy plus section, but they were all shown as regular economy seats.

Is this just a glitch or are there really UA flights with no economy plus seats?

zoegksf Oct 2, 12 5:33 pm

Not all of them have been converted yet. If there is a Row 14 then no E+. I am on this flight too I think, the redeye?

WineCountryUA Oct 2, 12 5:35 pm


Originally Posted by bdelancy (Post 19425748)
... Is this just a glitch or are there really UA flights with no economy plus seats?

Many of the sCO (subsidary CO) aircraft have not yet been updated to E+. For the 753 -- 13 have, 8 have not.

aacharya Oct 2, 12 5:41 pm


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 19425779)
Many of the sCO (subsidary CO) aircraft have not yet been updated to E+. For the 753 -- 13 have, 8 have not.

I thought that is because they are taking out some of the 753s from service.

OP - depending on your flight time, you might be advised to book something closer to the front of the plane, so that when the planes switch, you'll be back in E+.

02BNFR Oct 2, 12 5:50 pm

Thanks everyone. I did select row 14, but perhaps I will switch to a row closer to the front just in case.

ZOEGKSF: My flight leaves in the morning, so we may not be on the same flight.

redtailshark Oct 2, 12 6:16 pm


Originally Posted by bdelancy (Post 19425853)
Thanks everyone. I did select row 14, but perhaps I will switch to a row closer to the front just in case.

ZOEGKSF: My flight leaves in the morning, so we may not be on the same flight.

The unconverted CO-spec anteater is an horrendous machine. Exceeded among US majors' equipment only by the NW-spec machines..... and worldwide perhaps by Condor's unspeakable 280-seat implementation that they seem to be able to fly to ANC.

Near the front is still better because disembarkation on this machine takes much longer than they schedule for and strains connection times if you're in 42D.

zoegksf Oct 2, 12 6:32 pm


Originally Posted by bdelancy (Post 19425853)
Thanks everyone. I did select row 14, but perhaps I will switch to a row closer to the front just in case.

ZOEGKSF: My flight leaves in the morning, so we may not be on the same flight.

I would suggest any Row with the exception of 14. If it gets swapped out for an E+ bird, you won't have any seat assignment. I see that there are 2 753's a day now. Ahhh, how I miss the WB 3-class planes.

JOSECONLSCREW28 Oct 2, 12 7:18 pm


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 19425779)
Many of the sCO (subsidary CO) aircraft have not yet been updated to E+. For the 753 -- 13 have, 8 have not.

The 8 that currently do not have E+ are the ones that will also be getting DTV at the same time as the E+ installation.

buckeyefanflyer Oct 2, 12 8:40 pm

Just to note many of the 757-300's from CO are now flying PMUA routes.

Dsybok Oct 2, 12 9:40 pm


Originally Posted by buckeyefanflyer (Post 19426704)
Just to note many of the 757-300's from CO are now flying PMUA routes.

Yes they are, I have had PMCO 753s from DEN and ORD in and out of LAX in the last few weeks, they are not all converted to E+ as others have said, and they take friggin forever to load.

Interestingly they all seem to fly in and out of T6 at LAX, the PMCO terminal, but somehow manage to fly into UA terminals in DEN and ORD.

Why can't they use T7 at LAX?

Chugach Oct 2, 12 10:10 pm


Originally Posted by redtailshark (Post 19425969)
The unconverted CO-spec anteater is an horrendous machine. Exceeded among US majors' equipment only by the NW-spec machines..... and worldwide perhaps by Condor's unspeakable 280-seat implementation that they seem to be able to fly to ANC.

Near the front is still better because disembarkation on this machine takes much longer than they schedule for and strains connection times if you're in 42D.

Condor flies the 763 to ANC, not 753.

But, I've taken the sCO 753's on the ANC-SEA-IAH route in the past and it is/was brutal to be on that plane for nine hours unless you sat in F.

ben237829624 Oct 2, 12 10:22 pm


Originally Posted by Dsybok (Post 19427016)
Yes they are, I have had PMCO 753s from DEN and ORD in and out of LAX in the last few weeks, they are not all converted to E+ as others have said, and they take friggin forever to load.

Interestingly they all seem to fly in and out of T6 at LAX, the PMCO terminal, but somehow manage to fly into UA terminals in DEN and ORD.

Why can't they use T7 at LAX?

UA still use terminal 7 at LAX. All non-elites should check-in at T7, and all elites at T6. T6 and T7 are connected by shuttle bus.

tomasem Oct 2, 12 10:32 pm


Originally Posted by ben237829624 (Post 19427218)
UA still use terminal 7 at LAX. All non-elites should check-in at T7, and all elites at T6. T6 and T7 are connected by shuttle bus.

Actually they're connected by a walkway.

tuolumne Oct 2, 12 10:34 pm

They don't call this sweaty tube the slave ship for nothing. Good luck being seated anywhere past the wings - This is the one to actively avoid if possible.

fzwinter Oct 2, 12 11:59 pm

I've flown on a couple of the old 753s recently. Was able to book an exit row on one flight, so it wasn't too bad in Y. I got upgraded on the other flight (LAX-IAD redeye) and was pleased that it seemed to be more comfortable than the old UA 757s due to the absence of the "box" underneath the seats in front of me.

Have a couple of 753 flights coming up (SFO-OGG and return) - I'm sure not looking forward to those in Y but for $300 RT ai I shouldn't complain.

zrs70 Nov 1, 12 11:46 pm

I'm booked on a 757-300 LAX-IAH this weekend. Seat map shows no row 14. From reading this thread, that means there is E+?

Now we are in row 20 (non reclining exit) - way back in the plane. Row 10 is also open. Worth changing seats?

zrs70 Nov 2, 12 6:20 pm

LOL! Looks like the aircraft has now been swapped. Row 14 exists, and the plane shows e+ only at exit row.

haddon90 Nov 2, 12 6:27 pm

i didn't realize this plane was so bad...i'm flying it IAD-DEN in a month

st530 Nov 3, 12 1:07 pm


Originally Posted by haddon90 (Post 19613779)
i didn't realize this plane was so bad...i'm flying it IAD-DEN in a month

It's not. Many FT-ers are just verrry dramatic about some things. ;)

trekwars2000 Nov 3, 12 1:15 pm


Originally Posted by st530 (Post 19617330)
It's not. Many FT-ers are just verrry dramatic about some things. ;)

I agree it isn't too bad. If you can get a seat up towards the front of the Y cabin. It has free overhead video and the best Y seats of CO airplanes.

LIH Prem Nov 3, 12 3:48 pm


Originally Posted by trekwars2000 (Post 19617356)
I agree it isn't too bad. If you can get a seat up towards the front of the Y cabin. It has free overhead video and the best Y seats of CO airplanes.

That might be true when the E+ conversions are done if you aren't flying it to the Hawaiian islands.

If you are flying to the islands, you will get one with E+, since all of the ETOPS rated 753s now have E+.

If not, it's hit or miss since only 2 of the non-ETOPs rated 753s have E+. (and those are the only 2 with DTV.)

-David

Indelaware Nov 3, 12 6:00 pm


Originally Posted by st530 (Post 19617330)
It's not. Many FT-ers are just verrry dramatic about some things. ;)

+1.

The plane is fine. It will get you safely from point A to B. And they aren't deployed on long routes - they can't fly them. If it was intercontinental then the aircraft type and seating might matter. But for domestic? You get on, you fly, and not many hours later you get off.

I've been on bad planes. There aren't any in service for US or EU airlines. Those who complain about 753s should try some Tupolevs deployed in the third world.

elCheapoDeluxe Nov 3, 12 6:20 pm

What's the difference between the non E+ 753 and any other type of non E+ plane, other than how long it takes to load / unload. Does the length of the plane make it less comfortable somehow? :rolleyes:

walkerci Nov 3, 12 7:32 pm

The ex-CO 757-300s are very nice for non-Red Eye flights. Up front.

SFO 1K Nov 3, 12 8:39 pm

I was on one of the two with DTV (and E+) today.

We were in F, and it was decent, although I still dislike the lack of lower back support on the CO seats. The air vents didn't seem to deliver as much air as the sUA 752s. Legroom in F rows seemed better than sUA 752 and any sCO 737 I've been on.

The E+ cabin from entry back to the over wing exit looked decent and comfortable.

gradsflyer Nov 3, 12 11:29 pm

I'm on one of these PMCO 753s from LAX to HNL Thanksgiving weekend. Originally the route was sheduled with a non-retrofitted aircraft and I just selected a seat near the front. It was later switched to a plane retrofitted with E+ and I lucked out being a silver because my non-E+ seat was switched to an E+ aisle which I got to keep. Good thing too becasue there aren't any E+ aisle or wondows left which means I would have been shafted at t-24. Just hope they don't switch aircraft again.

jbsay Jan 16, 13 3:14 pm

Has anybody flown in E+ on the reconfigured version of the PMCO 753? How does it compare to the PMUA 752? Do the 753 E+ seats really have in-seat power, as .bomb seat map suggests?

sakaike Jan 16, 13 6:28 pm


Originally Posted by jbsay (Post 20061140)
Has anybody flown in E+ on the reconfigured version of the PMCO 753? How does it compare to the PMUA 752? Do the 753 E+ seats really have in-seat power, as .bomb seat map suggests?

I was also wondering about the in-seat power on the 753s. I am flying LAX-OGG-LAX in a couple of weeks, so I know I have E+ (since it is an ETOPS bird), but not sure about the power.

Anyone taken this bird and route lately that might know?

LIH Prem Jan 17, 13 4:00 pm


Originally Posted by sakaike (Post 20062469)
I was also wondering about the in-seat power on the 753s. I am flying LAX-OGG-LAX in a couple of weeks, so I know I have E+ (since it is an ETOPS bird), but not sure about the power.

Anyone taken this bird and route lately that might know?

The ex-ATA 753s are the ETOPS rated ones, they all have E+, no power, no DTV, they have overhead screens. These are the ones we get on the Hawaii routes.

The ex-CO 753s apparently have power as shown in the seat maps, but those aren't ETOPS rated, some have E+, the rest are being converted to E+, they have DTV.

The seat maps on united.com only reflect the ex-CO 753s because of the indication of in-seat power. But if you ignore the in-seat power indication, the version 1 seatmap does correctly reflect the seating layout of the ex-ATA/ETOPS rated 753s.

If you want more detail ... http://bit.ly/ua753-seatmap, also there's more in the fleet thread.

-David

sakaike Jan 18, 13 8:53 am


Originally Posted by LIH Prem (Post 20070032)
The ex-ATA 753s are the ETOPS rated ones, they all have E+, no power, no DTV, they have overhead screens. These are the ones we get on the Hawaii routes.

The ex-CO 753s apparently have power as shown in the seat maps, but those aren't ETOPS rated, some have E+, the rest are being converted to E+, they have DTV.

The seat maps on united.com only reflect the ex-CO 753s because of the indication of in-seat power. But if you ignore the in-seat power indication, the version 1 seatmap does correctly reflect the seating layout of the ex-ATA/ETOPS rated 753s.

If you want more detail ... http://bit.ly/ua753-seatmap, also there's more in the fleet thread.

-David

Awesome info. Thanks!

danwer930 Feb 10, 13 11:30 pm

WARNING: UA 757-300 Seats 33D-F - NO DIRECTV after retrofit
 
I just completed a trip on UA #1043 LAX-EWR on 2/10/13. This was a last-minute change for me due to the snowstorm on the east coast. At the time of booking, I was relieved to discover that E+ exit row seats 33D-F were available, and that this appeared to be one of the few 757-300s that had actually been refitted with DirecTV. So I booked 33F.

Imagine my surprise when boarding to discover that JUST 33D-F (no other seats on the plane) have NO DIRECTV. No TV's mounted into the bulkhead (there are crew jumpseats covering 2/3 of it), and no fold-down TV's under the seat either. Just no entertainment at all. In an Economy Plus row no less! Just to rub it in, there IS a TV corresponding to 33F in the bulkhead, but it is only there to screen the safety demo - there are no in-seat controls and it does not function for the rest of the flight. Sure was fun being completely surrounded by other people enjoying their DirecTV on a 5-hour flight and not being able to watch it myself! Shame on United for not figuring out a workaround for these seats.

Between this bizarre omission, the protruding exit door, and the lack of floor stowage during takeoff/landing, I would highly recommend avoiding 33D-F on these aircraft at all costs.

LASUA1K Feb 11, 13 12:13 am


Originally Posted by danwer930 (Post 20223701)
I just completed a trip on UA #1043 LAX-EWR on 2/10/13. This was a last-minute change for me due to the snowstorm on the east coast. At the time of booking, I was relieved to discover that E+ exit row seats 33D-F were available, and that this appeared to be one of the few 757-300s that had actually been refitted with DirecTV. So I booked 33F.

Imagine my surprise when boarding to discover that JUST 33D-F (no other seats on the plane) have NO DIRECTV. No TV's mounted into the bulkhead (there are crew jumpseats covering 2/3 of it), and no fold-down TV's under the seat either. Just no entertainment at all. In an Economy Plus row no less! Just to rub it in, there IS a TV corresponding to 33F in the bulkhead, but it is only there to screen the safety demo - there are no in-seat controls and it does not function for the rest of the flight. Sure was fun being completely surrounded by other people enjoying their DirecTV on a 5-hour flight and not being able to watch it myself! Shame on United for not figuring out a workaround for these seats.

Between this bizarre omission, the protruding exit door, and the lack of floor stowage during takeoff/landing, I would highly recommend avoiding 33D-F on these aircraft at all costs.

That seems odd. Does A-C have it?

danwer930 Feb 11, 13 10:52 am


Originally Posted by LASUA1K (Post 20223816)
That seems odd. Does A-C have it?

Yes, A-C has screens mounted on the bulkhead. The jumpseats appear to be what get in the way in D-F.

LASUA1K Feb 11, 13 11:36 am


Originally Posted by danwer930 (Post 20226093)
Yes, A-C has screens mounted on the bulkhead. The jumpseats appear to be what get in the way in D-F.

Thanks for the tip, I just moved over to that side. Thanks again.

FortFun Feb 11, 13 11:46 am

For reference, seems like it was ship #3855, N57855.

danwer930 Feb 11, 13 3:57 pm


Originally Posted by LASUA1K (Post 20226366)
Thanks for the tip, I just moved over to that side. Thanks again.

My pleasure - I'm hoping now that the word's out UA will do something about it.

JOSECONLSCREW28 Feb 11, 13 4:06 pm


Originally Posted by danwer930 (Post 20227978)
My pleasure - I'm hoping now that the word's out UA will do something about it.

They would have to install fold out monitors from the seats as all 753s have the double jumpseat in front of 33DEF.

SFO 1K Feb 11, 13 4:08 pm


Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28 (Post 20228040)
They would have to install fold out monitors from the seats as all 753s have the double jumpseat in front of 33DEF.

Well, they better get on that right away then... seeing as the 787 and all form of sUA widebody seats in Exit and Bulkhead rows have fold out monitors.

JOSECONLSCREW28 Feb 11, 13 4:11 pm


Originally Posted by SFO 1K (Post 20228050)
Well, they better get on that right away then... seeing as the 787 and all form of sUA widebody seats in Exit and Bulkhead rows have fold out monitors.

I don't believe there's even an option to install DTV fold out monitors. Of all the ones I've seen at bulkhead seats have been attached to the wall in front of the pax.

SkyTeam777 Feb 16, 13 2:25 pm

In F, is it better to have bulkhead for more legroom (cutout)? or are there no "good" rows on this aircraft. Asking about LAX-OGG and OGG-LAX redeye in particular.


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