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Old Sep 21, 2012, 10:00 am
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UA v. CO metal

When making seat assignments, is there a way of determining which metal you are flying (UA v. CO?). I can tell on occasion based on how E+ is arranged, but I'm doing some trans-Pacific and trans-Atlantic flights and can't always tell on things like the 757s.
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 10:09 am
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Isn't it the case that all (or nearly all) of the intercontinental 757 flights are former CO planes?

I also believe that the UA freight website will help you with more detail about the equipment.
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 10:11 am
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There are some rules of thumb.

All Airbus and 747s are PMUA.

All 737s are PMCO.

752s domestic and PS are PMUA. 757-300's used for international are PMCO. PMUA didn't fly the 757 internationally.

767-200 and -400 are PMCO. 767-300 (763) are PMUA.

If you have a doubt, especially on international, take a look at the premium cabins. If they're 2 class, they're PMCO. If they're 3 class, they're PMUA.

Hope that helps.
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 10:13 am
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Originally Posted by Superguy
There are some rules of thumb.



752s domestic and PS are PMUA. 757-300's used for international are PMCO. PMUA didn't fly the 757 internationally.
The 757-300s don't have the range for international, so they are domestic. So 757-200 domestic is PMUA, 757-300 domestic is PMCO and 757-200 international are PMCO.
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by Superguy
There are some rules of thumb.

All Airbus and 747s are PMUA.

All 737s are PMCO.

752s domestic and PS are PMUA. 757-300's used for international are PMCO. PMUA didn't fly the 757 internationally.

767-200 and -400 are PMCO. 767-300 (763) are PMUA.

If you have a doubt, especially on international, take a look at the premium cabins. If they're 2 class, they're PMCO. If they're 3 class, they're PMUA.

Hope that helps.
Originally Posted by PSU Mudder
The 757-300s don't have the range for international, so they are domestic. So 757-200 domestic is PMUA, 757-300 domestic is PMCO and 757-200 international are PMCO.
Helpful reference. Thank you for putting it together. ^
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by PSU Mudder
The 757-300s don't have the range for international, so they are domestic. So 757-200 domestic is PMUA, 757-300 domestic is PMCO and 757-200 international are PMCO.
We shouldn't be so narrow in our understanding of what is "international."

The range of a 757-300 with winglets is 3595nm so it certainly can do international service. Although, most TATL routes would be pushing it, it could easily do EWR-KEF, any number of routes between the US and Canada, Mexico, Central America, and the Carribean. Some points in South America are also servicable from the US mainland.
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 1:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Indelaware
We shouldn't be so narrow in our understanding of what is "international."

The range of a 757-300 with winglets is 3595nm so it certainly can do international service. Although, most TATL routes would be pushing it, it could easily do EWR-KEF, any number of routes between the US and Canada, Mexico, Central America, and the Carribean. Some points in South America are also servicable from the US mainland.
I've seen quite a few ERJ145s leaving for international destinations out of IAH and DEN.
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by PSU Mudder
The 757-300s don't have the range for international, so they are domestic. So 757-200 domestic is PMUA, 757-300 domestic is PMCO and 757-200 international are PMCO.
Plenty of PMCO 757-200s (with BF config) operating domestic segments as well, in between TATL runs and during off-peak season.
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 1:33 pm
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so is seatguru still the best place for info on this or has it fallen behind with the merger. They do have the merged thread for United and it looks updated, but wasn't sure if others have found wide discrepancies.
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 1:58 pm
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Originally Posted by star_world
Plenty of PMCO 757-200s (with BF config) operating domestic segments as well, in between TATL runs and during off-peak season.
And you still can tell -- the CO 752 will have 16F and the UA 752 will have 24F.
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 2:02 pm
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Originally Posted by marzomarz
so is seatguru still the best place for info on this or has it fallen behind with the merger. They do have the merged thread for United and it looks updated, but wasn't sure if others have found wide discrepancies.
Your best option would be to go to united.com and go to the aircraft section then choose the 757-200/300. Under the 757-200 tab there should be 4 tabs 12/26/72, 16/153, 24/158, 24/164. The 16/153 version is sCO while the other 3 are sUA.
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 2:16 pm
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If I'm not mistaken, you can also tell by flight number. 200-999 are sUA, 001-199 / 1000+ are sCO (not sure at which point it cuts off and becomes special segments , partners, express, etc).
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 2:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Indelaware
We shouldn't be so narrow in our understanding of what is "international."

The range of a 757-300 with winglets is 3595nm so it certainly can do international service. Although, most TATL routes would be pushing it, it could easily do EWR-KEF, any number of routes between the US and Canada, Mexico, Central America, and the Carribean. Some points in South America are also servicable from the US mainland.
Fair enough, although for purposes of the OP, none of the 757-300s are currently in transatlantic service, though they may do international flights in the Americas.
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 3:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Superguy
There are some rules of thumb.

All Airbus and 747s are PMUA.

All 737s are PMCO.

752s domestic and PS are PMUA. 757-300's used for international are PMCO. PMUA didn't fly the 757 internationally.

767-200 and -400 are PMCO. 767-300 (763) are PMUA.

If you have a doubt, especially on international, take a look at the premium cabins. If they're 2 class, they're PMCO. If they're 3 class, they're PMUA.

Hope that helps.
NOTE: One exception: The 763s are PMUA but were converted post-merger, an in 2 class format. Thus they are PMUA, but they are 2 class and have the PMCO BusinessFirst seating instead of the PMUA business seats.
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 3:34 pm
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I usually use the flight number to help me -- I think PMUA's mainline flights are numbered between 201 and 999.
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