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Originally Posted by channa
(Post 19311768)
I don't think the phone agents can even authoritatively tell you that you're on the list. They can tell you you meet the criteria for upgrades (e.g., you're an Elite, you're on a revenue ticket, your Elite status shows, it looks good). But they can't tell you with certainty that EUA will see you at the next sweep.
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Originally Posted by CNJMichael
(Post 19313125)
IME, the agent can tell you that you're on the list in some situations. I've been waitlisted for mileage upgrades from Y class and when I called two days ago, she confirmed how many people were on the list, but there was no indication of priority. She told me she could only see the waitlist alphabetically by last name. Sounded like she had to manually count the names though to tell me how many on the waitlist for each flight.
That's a bit different. Mileage upgrades (and GPU/RPU upgrades) have an actual waitlist. It's CPU/EUA upgrades where the waitlist is generated dynamically. |
Publishing a waitlist, then when you move down a spot specifically telling you why would be a boon.
You are now 9th. You were 8th but HAL/R, a 1K, joined the list at 4th as they have an E fare and you have a K fare. Really not that tough to track/report. And it would end calls to customer service to explain why. |
Originally Posted by bmvaughn
(Post 19313998)
Publishing a waitlist, then when you move down a spot specifically telling you why would be a boon.
You are now 9th. You were 8th but HAL/R, a 1K, joined the list at 4th as they have an E fare and you have a K fare. Really not that tough to track/report. And it would end calls to customer service to explain why. |
Originally Posted by johnden
(Post 19311973)
I for one would like to see the waitlist for transparency sake. The quickest way to quell a conspiracy theory is to be honest and open.
For example, today I saw something happen with the waitlist for UA 976 IAD-DXB on Sept 15 that makes me uncomfortable. As of Sept 12 - 777 new configuration(40 BF, 8 GF) - A3 F3 C3 D1 Z1 As of Sept 13 9am - 777 old configuration(49 BF, 12 GF) - flight status reported 4 GF and 39 BF seats sold As of Sept 13 4pm - 777 old configuration - flight status reported 5 GF sold, 4 GF blocked and BF as full. How did UA manage to fill/sell/upgrade 10 BF seats in a few hours? The BF waitlist for this flight is rarely longer than 5-6 people, sometimes 10. I'm a bit baffled as to how an 11 seats became 0 and I nor my companion got upgraded? We also got moved from an aisle and window to middle seats on the equipment change. My reservation still lists the waitlist with the new seats. What could have happened? I'd feel much better if I could see the waitlist. |
Originally Posted by star_world
(Post 19314070)
Too much information, IMO. You've been moved down the list because someone with a higher status level and/or fare class is now on the list. That's always the reason, so why the need to call out who the individual is? Just post this on the list itself. The upgrade list should never refer to anyone's status, IMO.
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Originally Posted by aacharya
(Post 19314306)
Too much information is also dangerous, agreed.
You don't need to know everyone's initials. You just need to know you're #6 of 14 for 3 open seats. |
Originally Posted by channa
(Post 19314348)
In that regard, I've never understood why they publish the full standby on the website anyway.
You don't need to know everyone's initials. You just need to know you're #6 of 14 for 3 open seats. |
Originally Posted by emcampbe
(Post 19312153)
Ten replies so far, and no one has suggested the obvious: They don't want you knowing where you are on the list before you check in. If you "need" to be in a premium class, and knew you were at/near the top of the waitlist, would you pay for the seat instead? If you have no idea, you are more inclined to pay for it. It helps to sell F seats.
If people "need" to be in F/C, and they see that there's already 10 people on a waitlist, I would think they'd be MORE inclined to buy one of the available revenue seats, because they'd see that there was little or no chance that they're going to be u/g. Of course, caveat emptor... the likely result of this would be that the list would end up crammed with GS/1K pax who feel they have a good chance of being upgraded, meanwhile the lower-status flyers would buy the seats out from under them. As much as the engineer in me wants this data, I think that higher-tier flyers actually have a better chance of being upgraded if this information is NOT public. Right now, it's a guessing game where everybody lives in hope, equally... So be careful what you ask for. |
Originally Posted by pdx1M
(Post 19314414)
But then they'd need a way for you to query a name so that you could see your traveling companion and all us IT folks know how challenging implementing a query can be. ;)
DL has the view upgrade list in the PNR. |
Originally Posted by Centurion
(Post 19311811)
You forgot the fact that employees depending on their union contract can knock someone out with positive space and even some Non Revs can bump people + Air Marshalls. More than enough reasons to not publish a list until gate
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