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Asuka Aug 24, 2012 10:41 pm


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 19189331)
Australia is always visa-free for U.S. citizens.

The issue is the Aussie adopts the U.S.'s style of ESTA. So that $20 is to cover that system cost.

Ummm No...

ESTA (USA) is not a Visa

ETA (Australia) is a Visa

ENTRY / EXIT REQUIREMENTS FOR U.S. CITIZENS: You must have a valid U.S. passport and a visa to enter Australia. Most U.S. passport holders traveling to Australia for tourism or business purposes for less than 90 days can obtain an Electronic Travel Authority (ETA). The ETA is an electronic label-free visa and can be obtained at the ETA website for a small service fee. (Link)

BadgerBoi Aug 24, 2012 10:48 pm


Originally Posted by Asuka (Post 19189446)
Ummm No...

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Thanks; I would have been surprised if we just let foreigners in at will with never a visa requirement. Being an AU citizen I've never had the need to enquire.

Asuka Aug 24, 2012 11:08 pm


Originally Posted by BadgerBoi (Post 19189470)
Thanks; I would have been surprised if we just let foreigners in at will with never a visa requirement. Being an AU citizen I've never had the need to enquire.

Never know Nauru could become a FT destination for Americans ;)

The difference with ESTA and ETA with the fee's is that ESTA has a Processing fee + Tourism fee, where as the ETA charges for the Visa outright.

Part of the ESTA fee is only charged if you are denied, forget which half.

If my memory is still with me, I remember "Visa OK" being one of the other stamps used at LAX/SFO back in the days on flights to Australia.

ESTA, you still need a valid visa of some sort to enter, be it VWP on arrival, or applied for before hand.

ETA is a Visa to travel and enter.

But you can still be denied for any reason either way.

Australia screens everyone coming into Australia, unless you get the Side Door at Customs, so the chances of illegal items entering Australia is very low and the show Boarder Security is a good example of this.

No Beef Jerky you guys! ;)

Always Flyin Aug 25, 2012 12:24 am


Originally Posted by Jorgen (Post 19188400)
Speaking as an Australian citizen this is a change I like. :p

After all, United never pays my US visa fees...

There's a great strategy. Encourage United's race to the bottom.

236Dakota Nov 10, 2012 11:35 pm

I can confirm again that UA (CO) is no longer comping the Australia ETA Visa fee for 1Ks. :td::td::td:

djmp Nov 10, 2012 11:54 pm


Originally Posted by 236Dakota (Post 19662346)
I can confirm again that UA (CO) is no longer comping the Australia ETA Visa fee for 1Ks. :td::td::td:

How long are they valid for once issued?

*A Flyer Nov 11, 2012 12:02 am


Originally Posted by djmp (Post 19662376)
How long are they valid for once issued?

The ETA is a 12 month multiple entry visa. You are allowed 3 months per entry.

AZjohns Nov 11, 2012 12:09 am


Originally Posted by 236Dakota (Post 19662346)
I can confirm again that UA (CO) is no longer comping the Australia ETA Visa fee for 1Ks. :td::td::td:

But, I got an interesting e-mail yesterday from Global Entry (aka: U.S. Trusted Travelers). This is the 1K benefit that the newUA paid for.

Anyways, it appears we (that is US Global Entry peps) are are being given free access to equivalent program the Australians have, SmartGate:
http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page5831.asp

I have no idea if this does/doesn't have anything to do with this $20 fee mentioned in this thread, but it is kind of a cool benefit for free to enter Australia.

chinatraderjmr Nov 11, 2012 2:32 am

If UA tkts a trip to Australia on another carrier (TG/SQ/NZ) award or not an award, does not matter. Who do you call for the Visa? The ticketing carrier (UA) or operating carrier (TG, ETC).

poverty.jet.set Nov 11, 2012 4:55 am

Note you need a newer ePassport (with the chip in it) for that (SmartGate). Which the US didn't issue until late 2007, despite forcing other countries to add chips to their passports 2 years before that.

Needless to see my passport is almost a year pre-chip

mduell Nov 11, 2012 5:03 am


Originally Posted by AZjohns (Post 19662404)
But, I got an interesting e-mail yesterday from Global Entry (aka: U.S. Trusted Travelers). This is the 1K benefit that the newUA paid for.

Anyways, it appears we (that is US Global Entry peps) are are being given free access to equivalent program the Australians have, SmartGate:
http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page5831.asp

I have no idea if this does/doesn't have anything to do with this $20 fee mentioned in this thread, but it is kind of a cool benefit for free to enter Australia.

It's unrelated to the $20 ETA, and it doesn't work as of last Friday in MEL.

chinatraderjmr Nov 11, 2012 5:32 am


Originally Posted by poverty.jet.set (Post 19662944)
Note you need a newer ePassport (with the chip in it) for that (SmartGate). Which the US didn't issue until late 2007, despite forcing other countries to add chips to their passports 2 years before that.

Needless to see my passport is almost a year pre-chip

I'm 4 years pre chip (8 months left before expiration) & wherever I use it they look like they don't want to accept it. It's worth getting a new passport w a chip even if you have 3-4 more years on your current pp

zigzagg900 Nov 11, 2012 7:01 am

Actually I think they did double. Just renewed for $39. Still reasonable especially if one makes multiple trips a year.

malgudi Nov 11, 2012 8:23 am

See Guy Betsy's very generous offer re: the ETA Visa.


Originally Posted by 236Dakota (Post 19662346)
I can confirm again that UA (CO) is no longer comping the Australia ETA Visa fee for 1Ks. :td::td::td:


thomwithanh Nov 11, 2012 1:52 pm


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 19189331)
Australia is always visa-free for U.S. citizens.

Not true, Australia uses a universal visa system meaning there's no "visa free" access for any non-citizen (see here for an explanation). Even citizens of New Zealand, who can live and work in Australia indefinitely with no special permission are actually granted a visa at the border (and they are the only nationality entitled to apply for a visa on arrival).
  • Electronic Travel Authority is legally considered a visa (subclass 956, 976 or 977 depending on whether issued for tourism or business) but has a streamlined application process and is issued electronically.
  • eVisitor (subclass 651) is a no-fee electronic visa for EU passport holders (reciprocity agreement).
  • Special Category Visa (subclass 444) is issued to eligible New Zealand citizens at the border.

On the other hand, the United States' Electronic System for Travel Authorization is not a visa, but a pre-departure security clearance that is required as a condition of the VWP.


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