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jacroweORD Aug 23, 2012 3:24 pm

what happened to the big/nice UA planes for transcon routes?
 
i do a lot of travel from ORD-SFO and am booking flts for next week...also just got back from a trip this week and it appears that afternoon 767 is gone, the evening 767 is the ghetto variety and most the 757s have been replaced with A319s...whats up?? ugh

aCavalierInCoach Aug 23, 2012 3:27 pm


Originally Posted by jacroweORD (Post 19181020)
i do a lot of travel from ORD-SFO and am booking flts for next week...also just got back from a trip this week and it appears that afternoon 767 is gone, the evening 767 is the ghetto variety and most the 757s have been replaced with A319s...whats up?? ugh

deployed to international routes where yield is better and cycles are lower? frequency is still the name of the game domestically.

jacroweORD Aug 23, 2012 3:32 pm

odd tho, as they have been packed full all year...oh well...guess i will get more used to coach!

mandc2000 Aug 23, 2012 3:36 pm

My upgrade to F on Sept 1st gone to crappy 767 2 class F ..another reason I hate United at the moment and flight time changed....

jacroweORD Aug 23, 2012 3:43 pm


Originally Posted by mandc2000 (Post 19181086)
My upgrade to F on Sept 1st gone to crappy 767 2 class F ..another reason I hate United at the moment and flight time changed....

well...this week they offered 2 meal choices in the ghetto bird, although the person in front of me was sitting on my lap...better than coach tho!

RNE Aug 23, 2012 4:10 pm

The 767 is a boon to couples because of the 2-3-2 seating. TSMRSRNE and I welcome UA's freeing up these venerable flying machines to serve overseas destinations.

LASUA1K Aug 23, 2012 4:17 pm

Yup im suprised too. They went from a 767 to a 737-800. I think we will see the 787 on the route

star_world Aug 23, 2012 4:19 pm


Originally Posted by mandc2000 (Post 19181086)
My upgrade to F on Sept 1st gone to crappy 767 2 class F ..another reason I hate United at the moment and flight time changed....

This is hilarious. UA *finally* starts to get domestic fleet utilization figured out (i.e. they found a proper use for those longhaul aircraft that will make them more money than ORD-SFO runs) and people "hate" them for it.

I'd rather see them make some more money and operate a more profitable business overall (which can only benefit us), instead of seeing them waste aircraft like this on short domestic runs.


Originally Posted by LASUA1K (Post 19181317)
Yup im suprised too. They went from a 767 to a 737-800. I think we will see the 787 on the route

Maybe on training runs in the first few months of operation, or (extremely unlikely) on positioning flights. Not a chance that 787s will become widely used domestically.

jacroweORD Aug 23, 2012 4:22 pm


Originally Posted by star_world (Post 19181322)
This is hilarious. UA *finally* starts to get domestic fleet utilization figured out (i.e. they found a proper use for those longhaul aircraft that will make them more money than ORD-SFO runs) and people "hate" them for it.

I'd rather see them make some more money and operate a more profitable business overall (which can only benefit us), instead of seeing them waste aircraft like this on short domestic runs.



Maybe on training runs in the first few months of operation, or (extremely unlikely) on positioning flights. Not a chance that 787s will become widely used domestically.


who is hating? just not likin...A19s suck...better than the crap seats in the 730

star_world Aug 23, 2012 4:36 pm


Originally Posted by LASUA1K (Post 19181317)
Yup im suprised too. They went from a 767 to a 737-800. I think we will see the 787 on the route


Originally Posted by jacroweORD (Post 19181345)
who is hating? just not likin...A19s suck...better than the crap seats in the 730

Well the post I quoted specifically used the word "hating" - hence the response ;)

What's a 730 - do you mean a 737? There are quite a few different seat types in use on that fleet, the newer ones in particular are pretty decent and the aircraft are almost all much newer than the A319s, with significantly less "worn" interiors and modern IFE in most cases.

valor155 Aug 23, 2012 4:43 pm


Originally Posted by star_world (Post 19181400)
Well the post I quoted specifically used the word "hating" - hence the response ;)

What's a 730 - do you mean a 737? There are quite a few different seat types in use on that fleet, the newer ones in particular are pretty decent and the aircraft are almost all much newer than the A319s, with significantly less "worn" interiors and modern IFE in most cases.

Agreed. The PMCO 737s have more comfortable seats than the A319s I've been on.

However, if you really want to still on a sack of stones . . . the US Airways A321 is the winner. That's a painful experience in economy. Must have skipped the comfort package.

Madone59 Aug 23, 2012 4:53 pm

Just picked a random Monday. It looks like other days mid week are A319's and not A320's.

12: A320
2: 737
1: 757
1: 767


You are right.....that is not a lot of "big" planes

LASUA1K Aug 23, 2012 4:57 pm


Originally Posted by valor155 (Post 19181439)
Agreed. The PMCO 737s have more comfortable seats than the A319s I've been on.

However, if you really want to still on a sack of stones . . . the US Airways A321 is the winner. That's a painful experience in economy. Must have skipped the comfort package.

737 seats compare to those US seats. 319 and 320 much more comfort and wider seats.


Originally Posted by star_world (Post 19181322)
This is hilarious. UA *finally* starts to get domestic fleet utilization figured out (i.e. they found a proper use for those longhaul aircraft that will make them more money than ORD-SFO runs) and people "hate" them for it.

I'd rather see them make some more money and operate a more profitable business overall (which can only benefit us), instead of seeing them waste aircraft like this on short domestic runs.



Maybe on training runs in the first few months of operation, or (extremely unlikely) on positioning flights. Not a chance that 787s will become widely used domestically.

I expect the 787 to operate a ord-sfo before it goes international. Then the 767 should return.

As far as efficient, I see 3 red eye flights between sfo-ord. That is not efficient. Better off sticking a domestic 777 on that flight.

arf04 Aug 23, 2012 5:13 pm

Had a DEN-DFW flight downgraded from an A320 to an E145 (not until November), so clearly there are all sorts of fleet utilization changes happening in the system. That one seems like a pretty big capacity drop to me but it's not a route I usually fly.

channa Aug 23, 2012 5:31 pm

It's not just this route. My IAD-LAX went from a 3-cabin 777 to an A320. :eek:


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