New UA Revenue Fare Bucket "N" Class - UPDATE: Earns 100% PQMs/RDMs.
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BTW, if these fares are showing up only on routings to Hawaii, my sympathies for corporate travelers stuck receiving zero PQM are limited.
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$ Spend
Seems clear to me that UA (and frankly other carriers) are moving towards status based on $ spend and away from miles/segments. The introduction of Y/B/M-UP just below CPU for GS is the best sign of this and clearly rewards the higher fare over the more frequent flyer.
That's a rational move and is entirely consistent with the business model.
That's a rational move and is entirely consistent with the business model.
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I suspect its a reaction to increased competition to Hawaii, HA has increased capacity, Allegiant is starting Stockton - Honolulu soon for around the same price as the itin in the OP's post.
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And I don't have a problem with it - B fares are nearly discount F fares anyway; if UA wants to sell F seats to elites at a discount, that's their prerogative. You have the same opportunity to take advantage as anyone else.
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None of which is terrible. I just wish they'd stop sneaking in these little changes day by day. I wish they'd just design a comprehensive program, announce it to us comprehensively, and implement it reliably. Then, we can look at what we're dealing with and optimize our behavior against those known parameters.
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I think that's what I said !
Higher fare paid gets you a better opportunity vs. merely flying a lot. Needless to say, flying a lot and paying hire fares gets you the top of the heap = GS.
Higher fare paid gets you a better opportunity vs. merely flying a lot. Needless to say, flying a lot and paying hire fares gets you the top of the heap = GS.
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I suspect that the issue here is that either the fare basis is incorrect (and not supposed to be 'N') or that the web site is inc
rrectly reporting 0%. There are numerous known cases where the percentage quoted by the web site is incorrect. I'd guess this is just another one of those.

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For those interested in this particular fare basis and info...
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
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Fare Routing Search: Departing SFO on 10/16/12 for KOA Fare basis code NA0QS Flying UA Routing code 690 Rule Category Rule Text RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. NORMAL FARES APPLICATION CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY/COACH/ OFF PEAK COACH CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION THIS RULE GOVERNS ONE-WAY AND ROUND-TRIP FARES. FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS SEATS ARE LIMITED. ELIGIBILITY NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. DAY/TIME NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY. SEASONALITY NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY. FLIGHT APPLICATION NO FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY. ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THE FLIGHT NUMBER AND DATE MUST BE INDICATED ON THE TICKET. MINIMUM STAY NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. MAXIMUM STAY NO MAXIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. STOPOVERS 2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH DIRECTION AT USD 55.81 EACH IN CHI/DEN/LAX/SFO/HOU/EWR/ CLE PER PASSENGER. INFANT IS FREE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. STOPOVER POINT/S/ MUST BE ON THE PERMITTED ROUTING. AND - 2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH DIRECTION AT USD 74.42 EACH IN HNL/OGG/KOA/ LIH/ITO PER PASSENGER. INFANT IS FREE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. STOPOVER POINT/S/ MUST BE ON THE PERMITTED ROUTING. TRANSFERS 4 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT. FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS ARE NOT PERMITTED. COMBINATIONS DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ADJACENT LINE OF FLIGHT FARE COMPONENTS ONLY. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF CPR - BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES-CANADA DFR - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES FBRNAPV - WITHIN NORTH AMERICA VPCR - BETWEEN PUERTO RICO/VIRGIN ISLANDS-CANADA VPDR - BETWEEN PUERTO RICO/VIRGIN ISLANDS-THE USA. COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER CO/UA/AC IN ANY RULE IN ANY TARIFF. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH FARES BETWEEN NORTH AMERICA AND EUROPE. VALIDATE ADJACENT LINE OF FLIGHT FARE COMPONENTS ONLY. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER CO/AC/LH/UA/SN/LX OR FOR CARRIER OS/VO IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH FARES BETWEEN NORTH AMERICA AND MIDDLE EAST. VALIDATE ADJACENT LINE OF FLIGHT FARE COMPONENTS ONLY. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER CO/AC/LH/UA/SN/LX OR FOR CARRIER OS/VO IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH FARES BETWEEN NORTH AMERICA AND AFRICA. VALIDATE ADJACENT LINE OF FLIGHT FARE COMPONENTS ONLY. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER CO/AC/LH/UA/SN/LX OR FOR CARRIER OS/VO IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH FARES BETWEEN NORTH AMERICA AND SOUTH ASIAN SUBCONTINENT. VALIDATE ADJACENT LINE OF FLIGHT FARE COMPONENTS ONLY. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER CO/AC/LH/UA/SN/LX OR FOR CARRIER OS/VO IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH FARES BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3. VALIDATE ADJACENT LINE OF FLIGHT FARE COMPONENTS ONLY. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER CO/UA/NH IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRP - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC. COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER CO/UA/NH IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRPJ - BETWEEN USA/CA/AMER.SAMOA/ MICRONESIA-AREA 3. OPEN JAWS/2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS/MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS A MAXIMUM OF 2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED AT FARE BREAK POINTS. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/ LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. -TO FORM 2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS -TO FORM MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS A MAXIMUM OF 2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED AT FARE BREAK POINTS. OPEN JAWS/2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS/MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS NOTE - THE MOST RESTRICTIVE CONDITION APPLIES WHEN COMBINING HALF ROUND-TRIP FARES. FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS RULE THE MOST RESTRICTIVE CONDITIONS INCLUDE MIN/MAX STAY-RESERVATION AND TICKETING REQUIREMENTS-STOPOVER PROVISIONS- AND PENALTIES OR SERVICE CHARGE. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ONE WAY FARE FOR CARRIER CO/UA/AC IN ANY RULE IN ANY TARIFF. COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ROUND TRIP FARE FOR CARRIER CO/UA/AC IN ANY RULE IN ANY TARIFF. NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINT - BUR-LAX BUR-ONT BUR-SNA BWI-WAS EFD-HOU EFD-IAH EWR-HPN EWR-HVN EWR-ISP EWR-NYC FLL-MIA FLL-PBI HVN-HPN HVN-ISP HVN-NYC IAD-DCA ISP-HPN ISP-NYC LAX-ONT LAX-SNA LGA-JFK MDW-ORD MIA-PBI NYC-HPN OAK-SFO OAK-SJC ONT-SNA SFO-SJC BLACKOUT DATES NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY. SURCHARGES NO SURCHARGE REQUIREMENTS APPLY. ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED. TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON EACH TRIP ON/AFTER 05SEP12. TRAVEL ON THIS FARE COMPONENT MUST COMMENCE BY 1159PM ON 31OCT12. SALES RESTRICTIONS TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY MAIL. PENALTIES CANCELLATIONS TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. --- A. UA CUSTOMER COMMITMENT - CUSTOMERS WHO PURCHASE A TICKET FOR TRAVEL ON UNITED VIA UA CHANNELS MAY CANCEL THEIR RESERVATION/REFUND TICKET WITHOUT PENALTY WITHIN 24HRS OF PURCHASE. --- B. WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET - A WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET MAY BE APPLIED TOWARD THE PURCHASE OF A DOMESTIC OR INTERNATIONAL FARE/ TICKET PRICED AT -CURRENT- FARE LEVELS FOLLOWING ALL FARE RULE PROVISIONS. -- ORIGINAL RESERVATIONS OF WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET MUST BE CANCELLED PRIOR TO ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT OR TICKET HAS NO VALUE. -- WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET MUST EXCHANGED NO LATER THAN ONE YEAR /365 DAYS/ OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE DATE OR TICKET HAS NO VALUE. -- THE NON REFUNDABLE VALUE OF THE UNUSED TICKET MUST BE CARRIED FORWARD IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX OF THE NEW TICKET AND DESIGNATED AS NON REFUNDABLE. -- A 150.00 USD ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE FEE WILL BE ASSESSED FOR TRANSACTION. ANY RESIDUAL VALUE WILL BE RETURNED IN THE FORM OF A UA NON REFUNDABLE VOUCHER / TRAVEL AGENCY MAY ISSUE A NON REFUNDABLE MCO VALID ON UA. -- PASSENGERS TRAVELING ON COMPANION FARES MUST PRESENT ALL TICKETS AT THE SAME TIME. --- C. WHEN A LOWER FARE IS INTRODUCED OR AVAILABLE IN THE MARKET - WHEN A LOWER FARE IS INTRODUCED INTO THE MARKET OR A CURRENT FARE IS REDUCED OR BECOMES AVAILABLE / THE TICKETED PASSENGER MAY QUALIFY FOR THE ABOVE. ALL PROVISIONS OF THE LOWER FARE MUST BE MET BEFORE DEPARTURE. NO CHANGE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION/DATES/FLIGHTS. ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGE IS PERMITTED. -- A SERVICE FEE EQUAL TO THE CHANGE FEE WILL BE ASSESSED. RESIDUAL VALUE /IF ANY/ WILL BE RETURNED IN THE FORM OF A NON REFUNDABLE VOUCHER VALID ON UNITED AIRLINES. AGENCY MAY ISSUE NON REFUNDABLE MCO VALID ON UA. --- D. EMERGENCY PROVISION - TICKET MAY BE USED TOWARD THE PURCHASE OF ANOTHER TICKET IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY OF PASSENGER/ IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER OR TRAVELING COMPANION. DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED CHECK WITH CARRIER. --- E. TICKET VALIDITY AND CANCELLATION - TICKET EXPIRES 366 DAYS FROM TICKET ISSUANCE DATE. AN EXPIRED TICKET HAS NO VALUE AND MAY NOT BE USED OR EXCHANGED. THE NON REFUNDABLE CANCELLATION PENALTY IS EQUAL TO 100 PCT FARE/TAXES/FEES. --- NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. --- A. IF MULTIPLE CHANGES ARE MADE AT THE SAME TIME ONLY ONE SERVICE CHARGE WILL APPLY PER TICKET. IF FARES WITH DIFFERENT SERVICE CHARGES ARE COMBINED ON THE SAME TICKET THE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WILL APPLY TO THE JOURNEY. IF CHANGED FARE COMPONENT HAS NO SERVICE CHARGE AND THAT IS THE ONLY FARE COMPONENT CHANGED THERE WOULD BE NO SERVICE CHARGE. --- B. FARES COMBINED END-ON-END ON THE SAME TICKET // FARES THAT COULD STAND ALONE IF ISSUED ON A SEPARATE TICKET// MAY BE CHANGED SEPARATELY ACCORDING TO ASSOCIATED FARE RULE. IF CHANGED FARE COMPONENT HAS NO SERVICE CHARGE AND THAT IS THE ONLY FARE COMPONENT CHANGED THERE WOULD BE NO SERVICE CHARGE. --- CHANGES BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 150.00 FOR REISSUE/UNTICKTED PTA. WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -- BEFORE DEPARTURE CHANGE OPTIONS - -- BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVOSIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES. CHARGE USD 150.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ANY CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WITHIN JOURNEY.. -- TAG7 - LOWER AIR FARE-WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET -- WHEN A LOWER FARE IS INTRODUCED INTO THE MARKET / OR TICKETED FARE IS REDUCED REPRICE USING --CURRENT FARES-- ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGES PERMITTED. -- PROVIDED ALL THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS AND FARE RULES ARE MET. 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAK POINTS 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. SAME TRAVEL DATES / FLIGHTS 4. UA/CO FARES ARE USED 5. VALIDATE ADVANCE RESERVATIONS REQUIREMENTS 6. ADVANCE RESERVATION IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 7. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA -- WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE --REFUND RESIDUAL VIA VOUCHER / MCO-- --ADD COLLECT CHANGE FEE -- TAG 5 - QUALIFYING CURRENT DAY FARE WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET -- REPRICE USING --CURRENT FARES-- IN EFFECT TODAY -- PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. UA FARES ARE USED 2. FARE BREAK POINT CHANGES ARE PERMITTED 3. VALIDATE ADVANCE RESERVATION REQUIREMENTS 4. ADVANCE RESERVATION/TKG IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT. 5. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER -- WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN FARE DIFFERENCE -REFUND RESIDUAL VIA VOUCHER / MCO - -ADD-COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE / CHANGE FEE -- TAG 1 - DOWNLINE DATE / FLIGHT CHANGE SAME BOOKING CODE / KEEP THE FARE -- REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TICKETED/HISTORICAL FARE-- PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET - -- 1. NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS/1ST FLIGHT COUPON / FARE BREAKS 2. ALL TRAVEL REMAINS DOMESTIC 3. SAME UA FARE USED 4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 5. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES/TICKETING FROM ORIGINAL TICKET DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 6. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER -- REFUND NOT APPLICABLE -- ADD-COLLECT CHANGE FEE -- TAG 2 - DOWNLINE CHANGES WHEN ORIGINAL BOOKING CODE NOT AVAILABLE -- REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TICKET WAS ORIGINALY ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET - 1. NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS/1ST FLIGHT COUPON / FARE BREAKS 2. SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED 3. ALL TRAVEL REMAINS DOMESTIC 4. UA FARES GOVERNED BY SAME RULE ARE USED 5. NEW FARE IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS FARE 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 7. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES/TICKETING FROM ORIGINAL TICKET DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 8. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER -- OR - -- TAG 2 - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TICKET WAS ORIGINALLY ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET - 1. NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS/1ST FLIGHT COUPON / FARE BREAKS 2. ALL TRAVEL REMAINS DOMESTIC 3. UA FARES ARE USED 4. NEW TICKET HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TICKET 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES/TICKET DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 7. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER -- -- REFUND NOT APPLICABLE -- -- ADD COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE / CHANGE FEE -- ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. -- TAG 10 - FARE BREAKS PERMITTED -- A. CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USE FARE IN EFFECT TODAY - CURRENT-DAY TARIFF B. ALL OTHER FARE COMPONENTS USE TICKETED FARE. PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET -- 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS UP TO THE FIRST CHANGED FARE COMPONENET 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. UA FARES ARE USED 4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM NEW TKT ISSUE DATE IF CURRENT FARES / FROM PREVIOUS TKT ISSUE DATE IF HISTORICAL FARES TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 6. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER -- WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN FARE DIFFERENCE -- --REFUND RESIDUAL VIA VOUCHER / MCO --ADD-COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE / CHANGE FEE -- AFTER DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 150.00 FOR REISSUE. WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -- AFTER DEPARTURE CHANGE OPTIONS - -- AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES. CHARGE USD 150.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ANY CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WITHIN JOURNEY - REPRICE USING CURRENLTY TICKETED / HISTORICAL FARES. -- PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- TAG 1 - DOWNLINE DATE / FLIGHT CHANGE SAME BOOKING CODE / KEEP THE FARE -- 1. NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS/FARE BREAKS 2. ALL TRAVEL REMAINS DOMESTIC 3. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 4. UA FARES ARE USED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADVANCE RESERVATION/TICKETING 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 7. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER -- REFUND NOT APPLICABLE -- ADD-COLLECT CHANGE FEE -- TAG 2 - DOWNLINE CHANGES WHEN ORIGINAL BOOKING CODE IS NOT AVAILABLE -- REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TICKET WAS ORIGINALLY ISSUED. -- PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS / FARE BREAKS 2. SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED 3. ALL TRAVEL REMAINS DOMESTIC 4. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 5. UA FARES ARE USED 6. NEW FARE IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS FARE 7. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 8. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 9. TKT REISSUE RESDTRICTED UA OR ANY CARRIER -- OR - -- REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TICKET WAS ORIGINALLY ISSUED. -- PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS / FARE BREAKS 2. ALL TRAVEL REMAINS DOMESTIC 3. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 4. UA FARES ARE USED 5. NEW TICKET HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVI OUS TICKET 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 8. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER -- --REFUND NOT APPLICABLE --ADD-COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE / CHANGE FEE -- TAG 9/TAG 10 - WHEN FARE BREAK POINTS CHANGE -- REPRICE AS FOLLOWS - -- A. FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS USE FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TICKET WAS ISSUED B. CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USE CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT TODAY C. UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USE CURRENTLY TICKETED FARES -- 1. ALL TRAVEL REMAINS DOMESTIC 2. UA FARES ARE USED 3. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM NEW TKT ISSUE DATE IF CURRENT FARES 5. FROM PREVIOUS TICKET ISSUE DATE IF HISTORICAL FARES TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 6. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER -- WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN FARE DIFFERENCE --REFUND RESIDUAL VIA VOUCHER / MCO --ADD-COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE IF ANY/CHANGE FEE -- ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY. TICKET ENDORSEMENTS THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NONREF/0VALUAFTDPT/CHGFEE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX. CHILDREN DISCOUNTS CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER. OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - NO CHARGE. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. JNN/CONTRACT BULK CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY CONTRACT BULK ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER. OR - 1ST JNF/CONTRACT BULK INFANT PSGR UNDER 2 - NO CHARGE. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY CONTRACT BULK ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. OR - JNS/CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY CONTRACT BULK ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS. AGENT DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS. ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS. MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS NO PROVISIONS APPLY. FARE BY RULE NOT APPLICABLE. GROUPS NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY. TOURS NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY. VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY. DEPOSITS NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY. VOLUNTARY CHANGES IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE USD 150.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE USING CURRENT FARES - ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGES PERMITTED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS ON/BEFORE DAY OF ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. SAME TRAVEL DATES 5. CO/UA FARES ARE USED 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 7. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR CO WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA VOUCHER ENDORSEMENT BOX - NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE USD 150.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. CO/UA FARES ARE USED 2. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 3. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA VOUCHER ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE USD 150.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND ONLY REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE IF RESULTS IN VALID SOLUTION PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS/1ST FLIGHT COUPON/FARE BREAKS 2. SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED 3. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 4. CO/UA FARES ARE USED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 7. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE USD 150.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS/1ST FLIGHT COUPON/FARE BREAKS 2. SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED 3. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 4. CO/UA FARES ARE USED 5. NEW FARE IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS FARE 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 8. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS/1ST FLIGHT COUPON/FARE BREAKS 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CO/UA FARES ARE USED 4. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 7. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE USD 150.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE A. CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USE FARES IN EFFECT TODAY B. ALL OTHERS USE CURRENTLY TKTD FARE PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CO/UA FARES ARE USED 3. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM NEW TKT ISSUE DATE IF CURRENT FARES/FROM PREVIOUS TKT ISSUE DATE IF HISTORICAL FARES TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 5. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA VOUCHER ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE USD 150.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND ONLY REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE IF RESULTS IN VALID SOLUTION PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS 2. SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED 3. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 4. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 5. CO/UA FARES ARE USED 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 8. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE USD 150.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS 2. SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED 3. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 4. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 5. CO/UA FARES ARE USED 6. NEW FARE IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS FARE 7. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 8. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 9. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 4. CO/UA FARES ARE USED 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 8. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE USD 150.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE A. FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS USE FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED B. ALL OTHERS USE FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 3. CO/UA FARES ARE USED 4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM NEW TKT ISSUE DATE IF CURRENT FARES/FROM PREVIOUS TKT ISSUE DATE IF HISTORICAL FARES TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 6. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER OR - REPRICE A. CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USE FARES IN EFFECT TODAY B. ALL OTHERS USE CURRENTLY TKTD FARE PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 3. CO/UA FARES ARE USED 4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM NEW TKT ISSUE DATE IF CURRENT FARES/FROM PREVIOUS TKT ISSUE DATE IF HISTORICAL FARES TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 6. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO UA OR ANY CARRIER WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA VOUCHER ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. VOLUNTARY REFUNDS CHECK CATEGORY 16 OR CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. NEGOTIATED FARES NOT APPLICABLE. INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
#40
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,645
Interesting how the CO apologists like to frame this as a case where UA was leaving money on the table and CO is now whipping them into shape with fiscal discipline when, in fact, UA always rewarded high value behavior and the change we're seeing now is an incentive for lower value behavior. Combine with TODs for kettles and merging of "all elites into one" and, in fact, all the changes I've seen from the CO regime are pushing UA down the value chain, not up the chain.
Before all this crap started, I'd sometimes make a choice to buy a B fare on a long international trip simply because I didn't want to fly more BIS miles to qualify for status and wanted to better SWU odds. Now, my biggest incentive is to walk away and take AA up on their Exp match.
#41
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#42
Join Date: Jan 2008
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I fail to understand the upset:
1. If indeed UA is introducing a rock-bottom fare with no benefits, that increases consumer choice.
2. If your employer lives in the last century, that's between you and your head hunter.
3. So long as you pay attention to detail when booking, the ordinary traveler will face no problems. Those who either need to save or don't care about miles, get a break. Others can pay a bit more.
1. If indeed UA is introducing a rock-bottom fare with no benefits, that increases consumer choice.
2. If your employer lives in the last century, that's between you and your head hunter.
3. So long as you pay attention to detail when booking, the ordinary traveler will face no problems. Those who either need to save or don't care about miles, get a break. Others can pay a bit more.
#43
Company Representative, United Airlines
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chicago, Houston, or somewhere in between
Posts: 2,176
I just spotted a couple of published revenue fares that booked into "N." This appears to be lower than "G," the previous lowest fare bucket.
"N" is not mentioned on the mileage chart, and united.com shows it as 0% miles.
If this is true and not a mistake, buyer beware when buying UA tickets:

"N" is not mentioned on the mileage chart, and united.com shows it as 0% miles.
If this is true and not a mistake, buyer beware when buying UA tickets:

Good catch. This is a display issue on united.com concerning "N" class. It should be showing 100% PQMs. This issue should be corrected soon.
Thank you,
Carlos F.
#44
Join Date: Mar 2005
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#45
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: LAX
Posts: 10,599
I suspect that the issue here is that either the fare basis is incorrect (and not supposed to be 'N') or that the web site is inc
rrectly reporting 0%. There are numerous known cases where the percentage quoted by the web site is incorrect. I'd guess this is just another one of those.

Unlike DL, UA has always been very transparent on things like that and always provided advanced notice on any changes so i don't believe they would quietly sneak this in.
BTW a few years back i booked G-fare on ual site which was supposedly reserved for some unusual cases and not oped to public. Took quite a bit of time to force an upgrade on it and get miles credited. UA admitted a glitch back then.
Edit: not surprisingly confirmed as i was typing...