UAs Official Response to HKG Ticketing/IT Error: Redeem @ Correct Amount or Redeposit
#61
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I know I'm in the minority here (and if I'd been around a computer I'd of jumped on this myself) but those of you who actually got in on this . . . did you actually think UA would honor the ticket ? 4 miles ? For a ticket that costs (ORD-HKG just throwing in some random dates in OCT) $10244.80
Over-entitled ? You-betcha.
Over-entitled ? You-betcha.
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#63
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#64
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I'd bet yes. And we need to think about the long term ramifications of taking this all the way down the road. My bet if the outcome including legal fees is in the hundreds of thousands or few million dollars, all airlines are going to rethink what they provide for FF benefits.

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You wait for them to contact you to demand to be reimbursed. I'm not sure what would happen. Its one of the risks for making a too good to be true reservation. This is why many people recommend not to book non-refundable so soon.
This is uncharted territory with the new DOT rules so don't give up yet.

#66
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It's a good thing I kept my demand letter and DOT complaint from the ex-RGN deal handy ... that should save me some time. Anyone that thinks this is over now is sorely mistaken.
It should be fun watching United's DOT complaint rate rise in July too ... who thought that they could beat their recent achievements in that area?
It should be fun watching United's DOT complaint rate rise in July too ... who thought that they could beat their recent achievements in that area?


#67
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I hear you. I have never flown just to fly. My 4 miles and $40 for a first class ticket to HKG would still have been far less comfortable to me than my free recliner and bed in my house. I would've made a trip out of my flight to HKG and probably picked up a cheap flight or 2 from HKG to other Asian cities, but flying just to fly doesn't make much sense to me.


#68
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Hi Everyone, over the weekend, we discovered a united.com programming error that allowed customers to obtain Mileage Plus travel awards to and from Hong Kong for as little as four miles roundtrip per person, substantially below published levels, which we disclose to customers. We have since corrected the error and will be in contact with customers who have tickets issued at the incorrect award amounts. Customers will be given the choice to redeem at the correct mileage amount or re-deposit their award with all fees waived. We regret any inconvenience this has caused you, and appreciate your understanding.
Shannon Kelly
Director, Customer Insights
United Airlines
Shannon Kelly
Director, Customer Insights
United Airlines
And to those claiming that the DoT should get involved - not in this case. Even if that CFR applied to these tickets (which it doesn't), it only prevented them from raising the price, not canceling.

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Regardless of the result, this has been a fun game to play. Now let's start round 2 with 2 lives left


#70
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I know I'm in the minority here (and if I'd been around a computer I'd of jumped on this myself) but those of you who actually got in on this . . . did you actually think UA would honor the ticket ? 4 miles ? For a ticket that costs (ORD-LHR just throwing in some random dates in OCT) $10244.80
Over-entitled ? You-betcha.
Over-entitled ? You-betcha.
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#71
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And if the roles had been reversed? How would UA respond to this for example:
Over the weekend, we discovered an error where we overpaid for a nonrefundable booking we made last week. We give UA a choice, either to cancel this booking and refund the fare or to change to the fare we really wanted. We regret any inconvenience this has caused you, and appreciate your understanding.
Over the weekend, we discovered an error where we overpaid for a nonrefundable booking we made last week. We give UA a choice, either to cancel this booking and refund the fare or to change to the fare we really wanted. We regret any inconvenience this has caused you, and appreciate your understanding.
Hi UA, over the weekend, I discovered a mental error that caused me to book flights with UA for the last 10 years, usually overpaying and often choosing inconvenient schedules to get 1K benefits that have turned out to be substantially below published levels, which I am disclosing to you. I have since corrected the error and will be in contact with you to adjust how much I've paid for those tickets. You will be given the choice to charge me what I should have paid or to provide me with the benefits you promised to provide before you were taken over by crazy guys from Texas. I regret any inconvenience this has caused you, and appreciate your understanding.

#72
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Who changed the title of this thread... a little premature...I just checked my MileagePlus account and the res is still there. Maybe someone hacked that UA reps flyertalk account. I'm certainly not taking a posting on flyertalk as the official position of United just yet.

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Hi Everyone, over the weekend, we discovered a united.com programming error that allowed customers to obtain Mileage Plus travel awards to and from Hong Kong for as little as four miles roundtrip per person, substantially below published levels, which we disclose to customers. We have since corrected the error and will be in contact with customers who have tickets issued at the incorrect award amounts. Customers will be given the choice to redeem at the correct mileage amount or re-deposit their award with all fees waived. We regret any inconvenience this has caused you, and appreciate your understanding.
Shannon Kelly
Director, Customer Insights
United Airlines
Shannon Kelly
Director, Customer Insights
United Airlines
I have flown United exactly once, one way LAX-DEN, in the last 3 months. The reason for this is the extreme downgrades in service quality since the PSS conversion combined with the shift, almost exclusively, to Continental's way of doing things.
I have shifted my business to American Airlines, who not only matched my status, but offer higher service levels and a better frequent flyer program. They have welcomed me with open arms.
United, the one with the stylized U on the airplane, was my favorite airline from the time I was a small child. I've held elite status on United since 2005 and have been a 1K since 2009. That United honored every, single contract I ever entered into with it. That United bent over backwards to take care of me when things went wrong and I rewarded United with thousands upon thousands of dollars in business every year.
This United has apparently decided it will not honor the contract I entered into with it. Beyond the fact that I view such a stance as absolutely illegal, I view it as completely immoral and unethical. Whether or not this was a "mistake fare" makes no difference. I bought a ticket that United issued. That should be honored. I don't think either United or Continental would have done such a thing before the merger.
When American did their status match, my plan was to requalify on both airlines and see what I wanted to do from the start of next year. I don't see a point in that anymore. This United, which (short of some really excellent sUA front line staff who you have tortured with this merger) is not really United, has given me every reason to leave - and I control every single penny of where my travel dollar goes.

#75
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Well, I am not going to get all hot and bothered about UA cancelling my 4-mile int'l award ticket. I mean, obviously, it was a mistake.
That said, I do think this incident DEMANDS action by the DOT to level the playing field on non-refundable airline fees. If an airline can take more than 24 hours to cancel my reservation (and, remember, nobody has been individually notified yet, so the clock is still running), I should be able to take more than 24 hours to cancel. Should both sides have 3 days to cancel? Or 5? I don't know what the precise time frame should be, and I'm not sure that one number is necessarily better than another. I'd even let the airline industry decide what cancellation window they need. But it should be equal to both sides. This would be fair. And it would make a lot of customers happier with their air transportation purchases.
That said, I do think this incident DEMANDS action by the DOT to level the playing field on non-refundable airline fees. If an airline can take more than 24 hours to cancel my reservation (and, remember, nobody has been individually notified yet, so the clock is still running), I should be able to take more than 24 hours to cancel. Should both sides have 3 days to cancel? Or 5? I don't know what the precise time frame should be, and I'm not sure that one number is necessarily better than another. I'd even let the airline industry decide what cancellation window they need. But it should be equal to both sides. This would be fair. And it would make a lot of customers happier with their air transportation purchases.
