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channa Jul 10, 2012 5:37 pm

May 2012 DOT Data Released
 
http://airconsumer.ost.dot.gov/repor...12JulyATCR.pdf

And United's downward spiral continues...
  • Most delayed airline -- this time, not just below all the majors, but below all the majors, minors, and even regional/express carriers. :eek:
  • Highest cancellation rate of the mainline carriers.
  • Highest rate of 2+ hour tarmac delays.
  • Highest rate of mishandled bags of the mainline carriers.
  • Highest DOT complaint rate.

cobrax333 Jul 10, 2012 5:46 pm

Lets see what happens next week when they report earnings. Unfortunately if they keep beating earnings estimates, I don't think they care how unhappy we [their passengers in general] are.

On the otherhand if they can't make their targets AND we're unhappy...

HitAndRun Jul 10, 2012 5:54 pm


Originally Posted by channa (Post 18906188)
http://airconsumer.ost.dot.gov/repor...12JulyATCR.pdf

And United's downward spiral continues...
  • Most delayed airline -- this time, not just below all the majors, but below all the majors, minors, and even regional/express carriers. :eek:
  • Highest cancellation rate of the mainline carriers.
  • Highest rate of 2+ hour tarmac delays.
  • Highest rate of mishandled bags of the mainline carriers.
  • Highest DOT complaint rate.

As a business traveller I've always said that I want a consistent and predictable travel experience and finally United delivers.......oh, hang on a minute.

demkr Jul 10, 2012 6:06 pm

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Heckuva job Jeffy!

FriendlySkies Jul 10, 2012 6:21 pm

Is anybody surprised?

sxf24 Jul 10, 2012 6:25 pm


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 18906410)
Is anybody surprised?

Absolutely not. Anyone with half a brain would know the results were going to suck big time. There are no real excuses, but its worth noting that Delta was in a similar position at this point after the NW merger. We'll see if UA can turn its operational performance around in a similar manner.

aCavalierInCoach Jul 10, 2012 6:26 pm

UA and expressjet taking top honors in IDBs too! way to go m'boy.

ibuyyoufly Jul 10, 2012 6:33 pm

As their motto goes, "We're not happy until you're not happy".

planemechanic Jul 10, 2012 6:58 pm


Originally Posted by ibuyyoufly (Post 18906450)
As their motto goes, "We're not happy until you're not happy".

That's the FAA motto, not an airline one.

ORD_UA1K Jul 10, 2012 7:06 pm


Originally Posted by planemechanic (Post 18906570)
That's the FAA motto, not an airline one.

Surely you mean AFA, not FAA

chinatraderjmr Jul 10, 2012 7:11 pm


Originally Posted by cobrax333 (Post 18906231)
Lets see what happens next week when they report earnings. Unfortunately if they keep beating earnings estimates, I don't think they care how unhappy we [their passengers in general] are.

On the otherhand if they can't make their targets AND we're unhappy...

GOD HELP US ALL...if they still manage to beat the earnings estimates. More proof in Jeff's mind that he's on the right track

sinoflyer Jul 10, 2012 7:15 pm

Meanwhile, UA's June 2012 traffic (RPM) increased 0.1% YTY on -0.3% change in capacity (ASM), resulting in +0.4% change in load factor. I see that as flat traffic, and while it doesn't actually refute the notion that UA has lost business post-3/3, it suggests that all the hoopla that took place here on FT about elites fleeing might just be that and little else.

But we'll get a better picture of that in the 2Q12 financials, when we see UA's PRASM. I think it will be flat, too, and for many people (it seems) on this board, it won't be news that they are hoping for.

3Cforme Jul 10, 2012 7:24 pm


Originally Posted by sxf24 (Post 18906428)
Absolutely not. Anyone with half a brain would know the results were going to suck big time. There are no real excuses, but its worth noting that Delta was in a similar position at this point after the NW merger.

Actually, apart from complaint numbers, the data don't at all support that Delta was worst. The reservation switch-over to move all res to the Delta system occurred 2/1/2010. Feb, Mar, Apr data are found in the DOT reports of April, May and June. Delta's rankings, and UA's position in April 2010, comparable to UA merger efforts changeover + 3 months:

item Feb Mar Apr UA Apr 2010

on time 10/18 8/18 13/18 4/18

cancellations 12/18 9/18 9/18 10/18

bags mishandled 9/18 11/18 10/18 11/18

EWR764 Jul 10, 2012 7:40 pm


Originally Posted by sinoflyer (Post 18906642)
I think it will be flat, too, and for many people (it seems) on this board, it won't be news that they are hoping for.

It seems that this is precisely the kind of news certain people on this board are hoping for...

UA-NYC Jul 10, 2012 7:43 pm


Originally Posted by EWR764 (Post 18906739)
It seems that this is precisely the kind of news certain people on this board are hoping for...

Short term failure to spur a long term exec team change? You betcha.


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