[NOW EXPIRED]: SQ releasing almost all F award (O)
#1411
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,536
CX last minute availability is no use to those of us who have tight work schedules and travel with family. I can't fly my family around the world on the hope that I can find a return trip within a few days of my required time. Also SQ opens up a host of other destinations CX serve.
#1412
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Perhaps it's just me but just because a widget is made "limited edition" it doesn't make it any more appealing if i simply do not need a widget.
It is beyond me why people book an award for the sake of "experience" even if they don't need to go where that flight takes them... Maybe only if you have millions and millions of accumulated miles...
SQ or not it's just a flight and for the value of those miles i can buy a lot of Krug and caviar on the ground (last time CX F caviar was watery, mushy and overly salty but i digress )
IMO problems with UA are mostly operational - if anything UA miles are more valuable as it is harder to earn them with lower earning bonuses and fewer irrops freebies. I have not seen any indication of dilution so far (perhaps arguably some status perks but that's not miles). AA on the other hand is in bankruptcy, gave away lots of miles and status perks and goodies and I personally worry about those miles much more. This is of course on top of *A being head and shoulders about OW and very hefty copays needed for BA and other AA redemption options.
YMMV of course.
It is beyond me why people book an award for the sake of "experience" even if they don't need to go where that flight takes them... Maybe only if you have millions and millions of accumulated miles...
SQ or not it's just a flight and for the value of those miles i can buy a lot of Krug and caviar on the ground (last time CX F caviar was watery, mushy and overly salty but i digress )
IMO problems with UA are mostly operational - if anything UA miles are more valuable as it is harder to earn them with lower earning bonuses and fewer irrops freebies. I have not seen any indication of dilution so far (perhaps arguably some status perks but that's not miles). AA on the other hand is in bankruptcy, gave away lots of miles and status perks and goodies and I personally worry about those miles much more. This is of course on top of *A being head and shoulders about OW and very hefty copays needed for BA and other AA redemption options.
YMMV of course.
As for SQ award F as a widget, I'll agree to simply disagree on that one as well. I wouldn't book it simply for the sake of experience, though I can see some folks doing so if they have miles and time on their hands, with the journey itself being fun and a brief trip to a given destination also being part of the appeal.
I do suspect, though, that many folks jumped on the deal for trips they were going to take anyway. For instance, I grabbed it for my wife and myself for a vacation we'd otherwise take anyway; but for reasons I mentioned, I'd rather burn the miles on SQ rather than CX. I also booked flights for a couple of business trips that I may have to take and for which my total compensation would include my covering my air fare.
#1413
Join Date: Nov 2009
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I am on SQ 15 SFO-ICN in F thanks to this, and 6 of 8 seat are taken. That is late DEC, which is travel season. I got in on this hours after it hit FT, and had my seats ASAP so I know those seats were sold or held before the levy broke.
#1414
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Posts: 1,437
I do think my UA miles are much more of a diminishing asset than my AA ones, given the downward spiral that UA is in and the <probability> that the current management team will find ways of diluting its FF program any ways it can in years to come. So for reasons completely unrelated to SQ, better to take advantage of good ways to spend the UA miles now.!!!!!
I'll agree to disagree on this point. (agreed he's just being a sour puss because admited missed out this one. Since he had no investment in this I dont see why the adamant criticism??)
I do suspect, though, that many folks jumped on the deal for trips they were going to take anyway. For instance, I grabbed it for my wife and myself for a vacation we'd otherwise take anyway; but for reasons I mentioned, I'd rather burn the miles on SQ...
I do suspect, though, that many folks jumped on the deal for trips they were going to take anyway. For instance, I grabbed it for my wife and myself for a vacation we'd otherwise take anyway; but for reasons I mentioned, I'd rather burn the miles on SQ...
Agreed and emphasized/elaborated on.
#1415
Join Date: May 2011
Programs: UA - 1K, SPG - Plat., HHonors - Silver
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I've got a dilemma that I'm hoping someone with more experience can help me with.
When the flood gates opened I was able to book SFO-SIN-DPS for March 2013. While I'm beyond excited for the suite experience from SFO-SIN, there's not much to look forward to SIN-DPS on SQ's 777-200 in biz as these are not the new medium-haul business seats. While I realize this is only an approx. 2 hour flight, I notice that Qatar has biz availability on their 777-300ER for this route.
So, my question: If I were to call UA, would/should they be able to cancel my SIN-DPS/DPS-SIN legs, replace with the Qatar flights, all without affecting my SFO-SIN/SIN-SFO legs? I fear that during this change the agent could lose my long-haul legs and I lose out on the A380 R experience as there would likely be no way to get these flights back.
Do I just suck it up and stick with the SQ flights to DPS, or do I take my chances and risk losing all of my SQ flights?
Anyone with experience for this type of scenario?
When the flood gates opened I was able to book SFO-SIN-DPS for March 2013. While I'm beyond excited for the suite experience from SFO-SIN, there's not much to look forward to SIN-DPS on SQ's 777-200 in biz as these are not the new medium-haul business seats. While I realize this is only an approx. 2 hour flight, I notice that Qatar has biz availability on their 777-300ER for this route.
So, my question: If I were to call UA, would/should they be able to cancel my SIN-DPS/DPS-SIN legs, replace with the Qatar flights, all without affecting my SFO-SIN/SIN-SFO legs? I fear that during this change the agent could lose my long-haul legs and I lose out on the A380 R experience as there would likely be no way to get these flights back.
Do I just suck it up and stick with the SQ flights to DPS, or do I take my chances and risk losing all of my SQ flights?
Anyone with experience for this type of scenario?
#1416
Join Date: Jul 2010
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A competent agent should be able to do that, yes.
#1418
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CX last minute availability is no use to those of us who have tight work schedules and travel with family. I can't fly my family around the world on the hope that I can find a return trip within a few days of my required time. Also SQ opens up a host of other destinations CX serve.
For us we just love the ample availability when it is close to departure.
#1419
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Yeah, that's what I'd be worried about too.
If you don't get a response with specific instructions on how to make as sure as possible that the agent doesn't screw up your reservations, you might start a new thread asking for specific advice about this.
Although...come to think of it...can you combine a non-Star Alliance flight such as Qatar with a reservation such as this? I'm not sure about that.
If you don't get a response with specific instructions on how to make as sure as possible that the agent doesn't screw up your reservations, you might start a new thread asking for specific advice about this.
Although...come to think of it...can you combine a non-Star Alliance flight such as Qatar with a reservation such as this? I'm not sure about that.
#1421
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#1422
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Good to know (for the little remaining time that Qatar can be booked with miles). Thanks.
#1423
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A yuppie in his 20s, succesful, model style haircut. Middleaged woman/mid 40s with a few LV handbags, a father (presumeably) and his 2 (obesive) kids.
This all made for double servings of caviar for me and GF+ most of the Krug. Did a lobster sampling as well with the loaded asian version vs the BTCed in its shell. The latter was far better. Mixed well with the 1er cru Chablis.
I would say an average F experience. My recent F flights with JL,EY, NH, OZ and CX were all better (even TK F), and I would say the SQ was not better than LH, LX and TG F.
Still worth it as the segment costed me about 10K miles calculated on a pro rata basis for my creative routing@:-)
Care to elaborate? No
Then onto HKG to see if UA honors our 4 mile deal Great connection though, as we walked like 50 meters from our arrival gate to board for the quick connection. If the Krug didnt fool my mind I believe it was the same 77W.
#1424
Join Date: Jan 2009
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What's the best practice for schedule changes when partner award availability isn't there any more? We now see two problems.
(1) We booked something like
10/9 LHR-XXX (not SQ)
10/9 XXX-SIN (SQ)
10/10 SIN-NRT (SQ)
After a schedule change, the XXX-SIN is no longer offered and we've been automatically rebooked in First (O) on the 10/8 XXX-SIN -- which is an impossible connection because the first coupon on our itinerary leaves a day later.
Can we call SQ and ask them to reaccommodate us on connections that work better? Or do we have to just suck it up and call UA to get them to change the first segment (which is not on SQ)?
(2) Separately, we booked something like
10/16 LHR-XXX
10/17 XXX-SIN
After a schedule change, the XXX-SIN now leaves at 0900 instead of 1700 … and according to united.com we are now in class X (Economy)?! … and the flight's availability is zeroed out in GDSes (unavailable for sale on matrix.itasoftware.com unless you un-tick "search for available flights", but for sale on singaporeair.com)?!
If we call UA, will they fix this? Or should we start with SQ?
(1) We booked something like
10/9 LHR-XXX (not SQ)
10/9 XXX-SIN (SQ)
10/10 SIN-NRT (SQ)
After a schedule change, the XXX-SIN is no longer offered and we've been automatically rebooked in First (O) on the 10/8 XXX-SIN -- which is an impossible connection because the first coupon on our itinerary leaves a day later.
Can we call SQ and ask them to reaccommodate us on connections that work better? Or do we have to just suck it up and call UA to get them to change the first segment (which is not on SQ)?
(2) Separately, we booked something like
10/16 LHR-XXX
10/17 XXX-SIN
After a schedule change, the XXX-SIN now leaves at 0900 instead of 1700 … and according to united.com we are now in class X (Economy)?! … and the flight's availability is zeroed out in GDSes (unavailable for sale on matrix.itasoftware.com unless you un-tick "search for available flights", but for sale on singaporeair.com)?!
If we call UA, will they fix this? Or should we start with SQ?
#1425
Join Date: Dec 2002
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I've got a dilemma that I'm hoping someone with more experience can help me with.
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So, my question: If I were to call UA, would/should they be able to cancel my SIN-DPS/DPS-SIN legs, replace with the Qatar flights, all without affecting my SFO-SIN/SIN-SFO legs? I fear that during this change the agent could lose my long-haul legs and I lose out on the A380 R experience as there would likely be no way to get these flights back.
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So, my question: If I were to call UA, would/should they be able to cancel my SIN-DPS/DPS-SIN legs, replace with the Qatar flights, all without affecting my SFO-SIN/SIN-SFO legs? I fear that during this change the agent could lose my long-haul legs and I lose out on the A380 R experience as there would likely be no way to get these flights back.