Global First Lounge (IFL / GFL) Access Questions and Experiences
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#1096
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#1098
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And it has better champagne than they serve on board plus Haagen Dazs. What else could you before a 14 hour flight??

#1099
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Yes, I've been in the UA F lounge a number of times when flying UA F (or C as GS). It's one room off to the right after you've presented yourself to the desk.
(Nothing at HKG, however, compares to the CX Wing F lounge, when I fly them.)
(Nothing at HKG, however, compares to the CX Wing F lounge, when I fly them.)

#1100
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1) I was flying out of Hong Kong on a *A carrier
2) The fare basis of my ticket was F
So how do I not qualify for GFL admission?
Another example: say I have an F ticket on LH going LHR-FRA-JFK. I'm sitting in J LHR-FRA. Do I not qualify for the LHR GFL? (Leaving aside the fact that I will have rubber ducky access at the LH FCT in FRA and probably won't care about LHR)
Last edited by AlreadyThere; Dec 4, 14 at 2:55 pm

#1101
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#1102
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As a current GS member flying on UA seated in at least C you would have access to the UA GFL at LHR. Since you are not on UA on any leg in your itin can see them deny entry to UA GFL at LHR. As a courtesy they should admit you.
OK, you're right. My connecting flight HKG-BKK wasn't the 747 or 380, and had no F. But:
1) I was flying out of Hong Kong on a *A carrier
2) The fare basis of my ticket was F
So how do I not qualify for GFL admission?
Another example: say I have an F ticket on LH going LHR-FRA-JFK. I'm sitting in J LHR-FRA. Do I not qualify for the LHR GFL? (Leaving aside the fact that I will have rubber ducky access at the LH FCT in FRA and probably won't care about LHR)
1) I was flying out of Hong Kong on a *A carrier
2) The fare basis of my ticket was F
So how do I not qualify for GFL admission?
Another example: say I have an F ticket on LH going LHR-FRA-JFK. I'm sitting in J LHR-FRA. Do I not qualify for the LHR GFL? (Leaving aside the fact that I will have rubber ducky access at the LH FCT in FRA and probably won't care about LHR)

#1103
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Since you not did have an F boarding pass departing HKG, the denial of F lounge access was correct. The fact you were on an F fare or award is not relevant.
Here is the specific *A rule:
Customer must be departing from the local airport in International First Class
Star Alliance Lounge Access
Last edited by Kacee; Dec 4, 14 at 5:34 pm

#1104
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OK, you're right. My connecting flight HKG-BKK wasn't the 747 or 380, and had no F. But:
1) I was flying out of Hong Kong on a *A carrier
2) The fare basis of my ticket was F
So how do I not qualify for GFL admission?
Another example: say I have an F ticket on LH going LHR-FRA-JFK. I'm sitting in J LHR-FRA. Do I not qualify for the LHR GFL? (Leaving aside the fact that I will have rubber ducky access at the LH FCT in FRA and probably won't care about LHR)
1) I was flying out of Hong Kong on a *A carrier
2) The fare basis of my ticket was F
So how do I not qualify for GFL admission?
Another example: say I have an F ticket on LH going LHR-FRA-JFK. I'm sitting in J LHR-FRA. Do I not qualify for the LHR GFL? (Leaving aside the fact that I will have rubber ducky access at the LH FCT in FRA and probably won't care about LHR)
a) You are not flying in UA F (or, in your case, UA C) later on that same day or arrived in same.
and b) You are not departing HKG in an F cabin.
For your second example, see my question, earlier in the thread.
You'll *either* get GFL access in LHR if you're flyinig FRA-JFK in UA F. OR you'll get your rubber ducky if you're flying FRA-JFK in LH/LX.
Since UA doesn't fly FRA-JFK anymore (ever?), you won't have access to LHR GFL. So sad.

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So if I had changed my HKG departure -- same ticket, same fare -- to leave on the later A380 connection, the rule lets me in?

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I can't believe you're still arguing this. The rules are quite clear.

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Yes that's correct you would then have access. To give you a further idea how absurd some of these rules are - when I fly from NRT to ICN on a 737 the class of service is called BusinessFirst - and I get access to the GFL at NRT. When I fly from NRT to GUM on the same 737 it is called Business, and I AM NOT allowed in the GFL at NRT. Same fare basis, same plane - different printing on BP - denied...

#1108
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Customers have access to International First Class and/or any Star Alliance member carriers' own lounges.
Customer must present a boarding pass for travel in International First Class on a Star Alliance flight
Customer must be departing from the local airport in International First Class
Customer must present a boarding pass for travel in International First Class on a Star Alliance flight
Customer must be departing from the local airport in International First Class

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Are you saying (according to the rules) that I have been mistakenly admitted on numerous occasions to the GF lounges in SFO, LAX, and IAD when I returned on a GF flight and was awaiting my connecting flight? Or have the rules changed since 11/2013, when I last visited one of these lounges?
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Dec 5, 14 at 1:20 am Reason: typo
