UAL unconfirmed Rumor 737-800s to Hawaii
Mar 26, 2012, 5:34 pm
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You lose PQM and RDM I believe.
And to the question at hand - as long as the 738 has an approx. 13% advantage on the 752 in terms of fuel burn per seat, you'll see a lot more of them being flown. Interesting analysis in this document: http://www.aircraft-commerce.com/sam...g_2_sample.pdf
And to the question at hand - as long as the 738 has an approx. 13% advantage on the 752 in terms of fuel burn per seat, you'll see a lot more of them being flown. Interesting analysis in this document: http://www.aircraft-commerce.com/sam...g_2_sample.pdf
Mar 26, 2012, 5:36 pm
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If the 737-700 could reach Western Europe with any sort of reasonable payload UA would be operating a new type to SNN by now
Mar 26, 2012, 5:42 pm
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GolfingBoy - most A320 are 126Y not 132Y. 132Y is ex-TED IIRC
I suspect the 126Y is the configuration for longer routes given more galley, though I could be wrong.
Seats are wider than 737 also.
But for a 5hr flight I try to avoid those as well. Not always possible
To Hawaii we still have a limited widebody selection and I will try for that every time
I suspect the 126Y is the configuration for longer routes given more galley, though I could be wrong.
Seats are wider than 737 also.
But for a 5hr flight I try to avoid those as well. Not always possible
To Hawaii we still have a limited widebody selection and I will try for that every time
Mar 26, 2012, 5:45 pm
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I'm sure you know that the 737-700 (or at least in its 737 BBJ guise) used to operate daily TATL, flown by PrivatAir (PrivatAir still operates a number of these flights over long haul from Europe to Africa and Asia, but no longer TATL).
And, of course, let's not forget BA's A318 operating JFK-LCY (yes, it makes a fuel stop at SNN westbound, not because it doesn't have the range, but because of payload limitation at LCY).
Mar 26, 2012, 6:11 pm
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I like the 738's 16 seats up front, but I'd kind of like them back on my routes now being operated with A319s and A320s.
Mar 26, 2012, 7:46 pm
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Yes, and Airbus are creeping up more out of IAH. They are cool to spot as a plane spotter, I am affiliated with the Houston Spotters, but I am not in to flying them a lot, but that is just my personal preference. However, they are a nice aircraft. I guess I prefer 777, 767, 757-200. Mostly because nicer seats most of the time and better IFE.
Mar 26, 2012, 7:58 pm
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That being said, I seriously doubt folks are flying YVR-LAX//SAN-HNL on AS.
Anyways, used 752s are easy to come by- G4 bought some to eventually use on Hawaii service.
AS isn't flying them.
I imagine they could find used 762s too. Nope.
Or new A33s/772s/what have you. Nope.
Just 738s. Making money. Lots of it.
And AS actually wasn't an all-737 fleet until fairly recently, after they retired their Mad Dogs.
You may not like the small, fuel efficient planes to Hawaii, but airlines paying $3-4 a gallon for Jet-A sure do, now that fuel is their biggest operational cost.
Doesn't that cover preclearance, too?
Mar 26, 2012, 8:06 pm
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Yes it does, but the reason they need to stop is that, if the A318 carried enough fuel to make JFK, it would exceed the maximum payload at LCY.
So at least they can have the pax pre-clear while they're topping off, so that it's not a total waste of time for a service that is primarily billed as a convenience over flying via LHR.
So at least they can have the pax pre-clear while they're topping off, so that it's not a total waste of time for a service that is primarily billed as a convenience over flying via LHR.
Mar 26, 2012, 8:32 pm
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A question about the schedule: is there something like the equivalent of the old ua pdf schedule around? there is a new version of that, but it doesn't show the future schedule changes (ie, eff dates, etc), it just seems to show current schedule. I ended up using the app to do this, but I didn't see any way to get the entire view at once, as you could with the old ua pdf version.
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I agree that it's suboptimal to use the app and have to hunt for effective dates using binary chop date-by-date one-at-a-time.
Mar 26, 2012, 10:51 pm
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By the new version do you mean this, which only shows the current plus upcoming 3 weeks?
The old pre 3/3 UA pdf schedule showed all the flights for the current effective duration of the schedule. (notes under each flight "eff <date>" or "eff <date - date>" or "eff through <date>".)
The old UA version was more like AA's pdf file is now, at least W.R.T. eff dates in the schedule, though I have no idea how far out AA's goes. (AA's is much easier to read vs the old UA pdf.)
It got very complicated as many flights changed frequently by a few minutes.
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