Denied E+ after seats changed - 7 hour flight
Mar 6, 2012, 11:44 am
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Denied E+ after seats changed - 7 hour flight
Premier Gold here. Booked EWR - DUB RT on .bomb for myself and my significant other. First time traveling internationally, ever.
Flight to DUB was fine. Flight back today (3/6/12) was a nightmare. When I booked back in January, it showed a 757 CO flight (no e+ option) so I had booked 21a/b (exit row). Yesterday, I got an email notification that my seats had been changed. When I checked into airport I was told exit row seats were gone, too bad and they gave me 38a/b and a boarding pass with zone 3 on it.
Chatted with GA, got the same story. As I board the plane.. i see there are E+ seats!! I immediately ask the FA who greets me at the door if there are e+ seats available, she responds with "oh, yes. plenty. they do cost additional, though".
I told her I was PG, explained that they had already kicked me out of my exit row seats and that I believe I should get e+ for free.. based on elite benefits alone. She says NO!! I insist, she says that it's not the case for international flights. She then gets on the loudspeaker.. as I'm standing next to her and offers e+ seats for an additional fee to the airplane. As a nice touch, at the end of the announcement, she says something along the lines of, you cannot move into e+ without paying and that the people currently sitting there ACTUALLY paid to sit there.
Thought maybe she was right (first INT flight, so who knows). I sulk over to my 38a/b. Flight takes off, of course all seats in front of me lay back after double chime.. can't use the laptop now. 7 hour flight!
I called UA when I landed at EWR - they confirmed that I should get E+ on the flight, can't say why my seats were changed and get this.. say they aren't showing the aircraft even had E+ on it?!?!
They advised that I contact customer relations.. which I'm doing. Has this happened to anyone else lately?
Flight to DUB was fine. Flight back today (3/6/12) was a nightmare. When I booked back in January, it showed a 757 CO flight (no e+ option) so I had booked 21a/b (exit row). Yesterday, I got an email notification that my seats had been changed. When I checked into airport I was told exit row seats were gone, too bad and they gave me 38a/b and a boarding pass with zone 3 on it.
Chatted with GA, got the same story. As I board the plane.. i see there are E+ seats!! I immediately ask the FA who greets me at the door if there are e+ seats available, she responds with "oh, yes. plenty. they do cost additional, though".
I told her I was PG, explained that they had already kicked me out of my exit row seats and that I believe I should get e+ for free.. based on elite benefits alone. She says NO!! I insist, she says that it's not the case for international flights. She then gets on the loudspeaker.. as I'm standing next to her and offers e+ seats for an additional fee to the airplane. As a nice touch, at the end of the announcement, she says something along the lines of, you cannot move into e+ without paying and that the people currently sitting there ACTUALLY paid to sit there.
Thought maybe she was right (first INT flight, so who knows). I sulk over to my 38a/b. Flight takes off, of course all seats in front of me lay back after double chime.. can't use the laptop now. 7 hour flight!
I called UA when I landed at EWR - they confirmed that I should get E+ on the flight, can't say why my seats were changed and get this.. say they aren't showing the aircraft even had E+ on it?!?!
They advised that I contact customer relations.. which I'm doing. Has this happened to anyone else lately?
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Mar 6, 2012, 11:48 am
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Hasn't happened to me like this, but I'm told all 75s have E+ now.
I think the F/A was right insofar as they don't have the authority to move you up for free. (Most of them don't know much about MP, status etc.) But checkin or gate agent should have done so - you were definitely entitled.
You'll probably get some comp.
I think the F/A was right insofar as they don't have the authority to move you up for free. (Most of them don't know much about MP, status etc.) But checkin or gate agent should have done so - you were definitely entitled.
You'll probably get some comp.
Mar 6, 2012, 11:51 am
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Premier Gold here. Booked EWR - DUB RT on .bomb for myself and my significant other. First time traveling internationally, ever.
Flight to DUB was fine. Flight back today (3/6/12) was a nightmare. When I booked back in January, it showed a 757 CO flight (no e+ option) so I had booked 21a/b (exit row). Yesterday, I got an email notification that my seats had been changed. When I checked into airport I was told exit row seats were gone, too bad and they gave me 38a/b and a boarding pass with zone 3 on it.
Chatted with GA, got the same story. As I board the plane.. i see there are E+ seats!! I immediately ask the FA who greets me at the door if there are e+ seats available, she responds with "oh, yes. plenty. they do cost additional, though".
I told her I was PG, explained that they had already kicked me out of my exit row seats and that I believe I should get e+ for free.. based on elite benefits alone. She says NO!! I insist, she says that it's not the case for international flights. She then gets on the loudspeaker.. as I'm standing next to her and offers e+ seats for an additional fee to the airplane. As a nice touch, at the end of the announcement, she says something along the lines of, you cannot move into e+ without paying and that the people currently sitting there ACTUALLY paid to sit there.
Thought maybe she was right (first INT flight, so who knows). I sulk over to my 38a/b. Flight takes off, of course all seats in front of me lay back after double chime.. can't use the laptop now. 7 hour flight!
I called UA when I landed at EWR - they confirmed that I should get E+ on the flight, can't say why my seats were changed and get this.. say they aren't showing the aircraft even had E+ on it?!?!
They advised that I contact customer relations.. which I'm doing. Has this happened to anyone else lately?
Flight to DUB was fine. Flight back today (3/6/12) was a nightmare. When I booked back in January, it showed a 757 CO flight (no e+ option) so I had booked 21a/b (exit row). Yesterday, I got an email notification that my seats had been changed. When I checked into airport I was told exit row seats were gone, too bad and they gave me 38a/b and a boarding pass with zone 3 on it.
Chatted with GA, got the same story. As I board the plane.. i see there are E+ seats!! I immediately ask the FA who greets me at the door if there are e+ seats available, she responds with "oh, yes. plenty. they do cost additional, though".
I told her I was PG, explained that they had already kicked me out of my exit row seats and that I believe I should get e+ for free.. based on elite benefits alone. She says NO!! I insist, she says that it's not the case for international flights. She then gets on the loudspeaker.. as I'm standing next to her and offers e+ seats for an additional fee to the airplane. As a nice touch, at the end of the announcement, she says something along the lines of, you cannot move into e+ without paying and that the people currently sitting there ACTUALLY paid to sit there.
Thought maybe she was right (first INT flight, so who knows). I sulk over to my 38a/b. Flight takes off, of course all seats in front of me lay back after double chime.. can't use the laptop now. 7 hour flight!
I called UA when I landed at EWR - they confirmed that I should get E+ on the flight, can't say why my seats were changed and get this.. say they aren't showing the aircraft even had E+ on it?!?!
They advised that I contact customer relations.. which I'm doing. Has this happened to anyone else lately?
Mar 6, 2012, 11:52 am
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As far as the earlier seat change, this has affected others. Here is UA Insider's statement on this, found here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/18114732-post1.html
Seats
Sporadic Seat Assignment Issues. We continue to see sporadic cases where some pre-assigned seats were lost. We’re working on a process to automatically assign seats back in these cases, but, there may be times when the originally assigned seat is no longer available. We recommend using united.com to confirm or change your seat assignments for any upcoming trips.
Seats
Sporadic Seat Assignment Issues. We continue to see sporadic cases where some pre-assigned seats were lost. We’re working on a process to automatically assign seats back in these cases, but, there may be times when the originally assigned seat is no longer available. We recommend using united.com to confirm or change your seat assignments for any upcoming trips.
Mar 6, 2012, 11:54 am
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Does not help us Silvers that lost out E+.. Yeah I know we are not entitled to it but we were led to believe that seat assignments will stick.. I am now scared to go in and change seats as only my return flight is affected... my outgoing (LAX-MEL no less) still has E+...
Mar 6, 2012, 12:08 pm
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As far as the earlier seat change, this has affected others. Here is UA Insider's statement on this, found here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/18114732-post1.html
Seats
Sporadic Seat Assignment Issues. We continue to see sporadic cases where some pre-assigned seats were lost. We’re working on a process to automatically assign seats back in these cases, but, there may be times when the originally assigned seat is no longer available. We recommend using united.com to confirm or change your seat assignments for any upcoming trips.
Seats
Sporadic Seat Assignment Issues. We continue to see sporadic cases where some pre-assigned seats were lost. We’re working on a process to automatically assign seats back in these cases, but, there may be times when the originally assigned seat is no longer available. We recommend using united.com to confirm or change your seat assignments for any upcoming trips.
It's just part of the merger. For me and many others, some mishaps are just going to happen. Unfortunately, this was a 7 hour flight mishap during a vacation with my lady.
I should have paid and sent in the receipt. However, the FA's announcement didn't make me want to deal with her anymore. Too much sarcasm. Ego was bigger than my seat today..... :P
Mar 14, 2012, 5:40 pm
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Had sent a letter into CS, addressing my situation - and that it was an unpleasant experience for myself and my SO on my first International trip with United.. here's the response I got back. Just an apology....
"Dear Mr. HEISAUDIHERE:
We regret that you didn't get the seat you expected on your recent flight, and sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. You are correct Economy Plus is complimentary for Premier Gold; unfortunately, there was no way for the Flight Attendant or Gate Agent to verify this on the new computer system. At this time, we cannot offer anything except an apology. The computers are being synchronized and senior management is aware of the problem.
We are able to fulfill our guests' seat requests the majority of the time, and we hope to be able to do so for you in the future. We appreciate this opportunity to respond and look forward to serving you.
Regards,
XXXX XXXX
United Airlines Customer Care"
"Dear Mr. HEISAUDIHERE:
We regret that you didn't get the seat you expected on your recent flight, and sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. You are correct Economy Plus is complimentary for Premier Gold; unfortunately, there was no way for the Flight Attendant or Gate Agent to verify this on the new computer system. At this time, we cannot offer anything except an apology. The computers are being synchronized and senior management is aware of the problem.
We are able to fulfill our guests' seat requests the majority of the time, and we hope to be able to do so for you in the future. We appreciate this opportunity to respond and look forward to serving you.
Regards,
XXXX XXXX
United Airlines Customer Care"
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Mar 14, 2012, 6:00 pm
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FA is the wrong person to talk to about getting seats in E+. The GA has the authority to change your seat assignments to E+ without a fee, but not the FA.
The FA's have enough to do to prep the flight without knowing the whole who is entitled to E+. If you wanted E+, and knew there were seats available, should have gone back up the jetway to ask the GA for E+. They would have likely happily moved you. I know hindsight is 20/20, and hopefully you don't need this advice for next time.
The FA's have enough to do to prep the flight without knowing the whole who is entitled to E+. If you wanted E+, and knew there were seats available, should have gone back up the jetway to ask the GA for E+. They would have likely happily moved you. I know hindsight is 20/20, and hopefully you don't need this advice for next time.
Mar 14, 2012, 6:14 pm
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Had sent a letter into CS, addressing my situation - and that it was an unpleasant experience for myself and my SO on my first International trip with United.. here's the response I got back. Just an apology....
"Dear Mr. HEISAUDIHERE:
We regret that you didn't get the seat you expected on your recent flight, and sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. You are correct Economy Plus is complimentary for Premier Gold; unfortunately, there was no way for the Flight Attendant or Gate Agent to verify this on the new computer system. At this time, we cannot offer anything except an apology. The computers are being synchronized and senior management is aware of the problem.
We are able to fulfill our guests' seat requests the majority of the time, and we hope to be able to do so for you in the future. We appreciate this opportunity to respond and look forward to serving you.
Regards,
XXXX XXXX
United Airlines Customer Care"
"Dear Mr. HEISAUDIHERE:
We regret that you didn't get the seat you expected on your recent flight, and sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. You are correct Economy Plus is complimentary for Premier Gold; unfortunately, there was no way for the Flight Attendant or Gate Agent to verify this on the new computer system. At this time, we cannot offer anything except an apology. The computers are being synchronized and senior management is aware of the problem.
We are able to fulfill our guests' seat requests the majority of the time, and we hope to be able to do so for you in the future. We appreciate this opportunity to respond and look forward to serving you.
Regards,
XXXX XXXX
United Airlines Customer Care"
Mar 14, 2012, 7:33 pm
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FA is the wrong person to talk to about getting seats in E+. The GA has the authority to change your seat assignments to E+ without a fee, but not the FA.
The FA's have enough to do to prep the flight without knowing the whole who is entitled to E+. If you wanted E+, and knew there were seats available, should have gone back up the jetway to ask the GA for E+. They would have likely happily moved you. I know hindsight is 20/20, and hopefully you don't need this advice for next time.
The FA's have enough to do to prep the flight without knowing the whole who is entitled to E+. If you wanted E+, and knew there were seats available, should have gone back up the jetway to ask the GA for E+. They would have likely happily moved you. I know hindsight is 20/20, and hopefully you don't need this advice for next time.
Good advice
Mar 14, 2012, 8:13 pm
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"We regret that you didn't get the seat you expected on your recent flight, and sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. You are correct Economy Plus is complimentary for Premier Gold; unfortunately, there was no way for the Flight Attendant or Gate Agent to verify this on the new computer system. At this time, we cannot offer anything except an apology. The computers are being synchronized and senior management is aware of the problem."
Translation: Due to poor implementation of our change of reservation systems, our gate agent was not able to verify your status online. Due to incompetence of our gate agent, she did not understand our actual policies. Due to your incompetence by choosing a carrier that has demonstrated it does not intend to keep its commitments to its frequent flyers, it is your own fault and you are not due anything more than an apology. Yes, pretty disgusting.
Translation: Due to poor implementation of our change of reservation systems, our gate agent was not able to verify your status online. Due to incompetence of our gate agent, she did not understand our actual policies. Due to your incompetence by choosing a carrier that has demonstrated it does not intend to keep its commitments to its frequent flyers, it is your own fault and you are not due anything more than an apology. Yes, pretty disgusting.
Mar 14, 2012, 8:28 pm
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FA is the wrong person to talk to about getting seats in E+. The GA has the authority to change your seat assignments to E+ without a fee, but not the FA.
The FA's have enough to do to prep the flight without knowing the whole who is entitled to E+. If you wanted E+, and knew there were seats available, should have gone back up the jetway to ask the GA for E+. They would have likely happily moved you. I know hindsight is 20/20, and hopefully you don't need this advice for next time.
The FA's have enough to do to prep the flight without knowing the whole who is entitled to E+. If you wanted E+, and knew there were seats available, should have gone back up the jetway to ask the GA for E+. They would have likely happily moved you. I know hindsight is 20/20, and hopefully you don't need this advice for next time.