Wow, they're sure selling a lot of upgrades
#1771
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Asia
Programs: RVT 1K
Posts: 883
Have not had much time to really get into this thread but can someone tell me if they are putting miles and co-pay ahead of other instruments?
For example I have an intl trip that I booked into a cheapo fair, upgrade one way was $600 plus 30k, R space has been zero but got an email saying they could clear my upgrade, nearly a week before the flight with C showing less than 6 seats left...
Am I right in guessing they want cash plus the miles off the book instead of someone using a GPU?
For example I have an intl trip that I booked into a cheapo fair, upgrade one way was $600 plus 30k, R space has been zero but got an email saying they could clear my upgrade, nearly a week before the flight with C showing less than 6 seats left...
Am I right in guessing they want cash plus the miles off the book instead of someone using a GPU?
#1772
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: SEA/YYZ
Posts: 1,561
Yes, I misspoke, but upon further thought, UA's published criteria almost has to be wrong. There is simply no way there are that many Y/B-buying 1P and 2P pax post-3/3 to jump ahead of me (all the Y/B buying 1Ks and all the GS were ahead of me pre-3/3, so that should be unchanged). I am seeing myself on mid-level economy fares anywhere from 10 to 30 on the list at the gate these days, when before I'd either clear 4 hours our or be in the top 2-3 at the gate. I'm quite literally seeing myself 25 places lower on the list on a flight with 160 pax; there's simply no way that is the case if UA's criteria is correct.
#1773
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: DEN, or so it says...
Programs: UA1K/RCC, Avis CHM, NWA Plat, SPG Plat
Posts: 2,885
Just did online check in for my flight tomorrow, DEN-ATL.
On a K-fare, offered an upgrade to first for $189, which I declined.
Checked in at exactly 24 hrs before the flight, #3 on the upgrade list.
Flight:
Available Cabins: F4, A4, JN4, Z4, ZN4, P4, PN4, R4, RN4, IN3, I3, Y4, YN4, B4, M4, E4, U4, H3, HN3, Q3, V1, W0, S0, T0, L0, K0, G0, N0, XN0, X0
On a K-fare, offered an upgrade to first for $189, which I declined.
Checked in at exactly 24 hrs before the flight, #3 on the upgrade list.
Flight:
Available Cabins: F4, A4, JN4, Z4, ZN4, P4, PN4, R4, RN4, IN3, I3, Y4, YN4, B4, M4, E4, U4, H3, HN3, Q3, V1, W0, S0, T0, L0, K0, G0, N0, XN0, X0
I took my seat in E+, and noticed, after the door had been closed, that there was an open seat in 2A. At that moment, the flight attendant asked me to ring my call button, walks up to me, and tells me I can take 2A.
#1774
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: DTW/MBS
Programs: UA 1K, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Formerly Starbucks Gold
Posts: 3,525
Paying for upgrade on company bought ticket?
Hey Guys,
Had a quick question about buying upgrades and didn't want to start a new thread.
I have an interview in Houston and the company is paying to fly me down and back for the interview. The interview is thursday so the company pretty much payed full price today, for what I'm 99.9% sure are refundable tickets.
Anyways, I did a dummy booking and saw there are plenty of seats that I can upgrade "for as low as $143".
I'd be interested in booking a segement at that rate. My question is, the company bought the ticket, and I would like to pay for the upgrade via my own money, but I'm not sure how to (if I can)...is that something I have to wait til I check into and talk to a checkin or GA for? But if that's the case I'd probably be out of luck to due others getting upgraded right?
Thanks!
Had a quick question about buying upgrades and didn't want to start a new thread.
I have an interview in Houston and the company is paying to fly me down and back for the interview. The interview is thursday so the company pretty much payed full price today, for what I'm 99.9% sure are refundable tickets.
Anyways, I did a dummy booking and saw there are plenty of seats that I can upgrade "for as low as $143".
I'd be interested in booking a segement at that rate. My question is, the company bought the ticket, and I would like to pay for the upgrade via my own money, but I'm not sure how to (if I can)...is that something I have to wait til I check into and talk to a checkin or GA for? But if that's the case I'd probably be out of luck to due others getting upgraded right?
Thanks!
Last edited by BThumme; Jun 4, 2012 at 11:24 pm
#1775
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: ATL
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Posts: 10,745
Hey Guys,
Had a quick question about buying upgrades.
I have an interview in Houston and the company is paying to fly me down and back for the interview. The interview is thursday so the company pretty much payed full price today, for what I'm 99.9% sure are refundable tickets.
Anyways, I did a dummy booking and saw there are plenty of seats that I can upgrade "for as low as $143".
I'd be interested in booking a segement at that rate. My question is, the company bought the ticket, and I would like to pay for the upgrade via my own money, but I'm not sure how to (if I can)...is that something I have to wait til I check into and talk to a checkin or GA for?
Thanks!
Had a quick question about buying upgrades.
I have an interview in Houston and the company is paying to fly me down and back for the interview. The interview is thursday so the company pretty much payed full price today, for what I'm 99.9% sure are refundable tickets.
Anyways, I did a dummy booking and saw there are plenty of seats that I can upgrade "for as low as $143".
I'd be interested in booking a segement at that rate. My question is, the company bought the ticket, and I would like to pay for the upgrade via my own money, but I'm not sure how to (if I can)...is that something I have to wait til I check into and talk to a checkin or GA for?
Thanks!
However, one thing to watch out for is that the company may need a copy of your boarding pass when you arrive, and it probably ought to match their records. I fly people into our office for interviews all the time, and because of how we're funded, we must obtain paper boarding passes as proof-of-travel, and the must match the purchase (or, I'm stuck with a pile of paperwork...). This is an immense PITA, especially trying to get their return BPs or when, God forbid, someone chooses to fly WN, but alas, it has to be done.
Simplest solution is to OLCI before upgrading and keep that copy of the BP in case the company asks for it, and in fact I do this often for my own travel (same doc guidelines). Seems silly, but small step to take to make sure you're getting them what they need, esp. since you're interviewing with them!
#1776
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: SEA/YVR/BLI
Programs: UA "Lifetime" Gold, AS MVPG100K, OW Emerald, HH Lifetime Diamond, IC Plat, Marriott Gold, Hertz Gold
Posts: 9,488
A flight attendant's perspective
We've flown a lot in the past couple of weeks. We got chatting with a friendly FA at one point about some of the changes. She said they were seeing a lot more pax in F who had obviously never flown in F before, asking questions like how much the alcoholic drinks cost.
When we explained the new emphasis on selling UGs over loyalty UGs she said that explained what they were seeing. She said she missed the "regulars" because they were generally better to deal with.
When we explained the new emphasis on selling UGs over loyalty UGs she said that explained what they were seeing. She said she missed the "regulars" because they were generally better to deal with.
#1777
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: BOS, PVG
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Posts: 10,000
We've flown a lot in the past couple of weeks. We got chatting with a friendly FA at one point about some of the changes. She said they were seeing a lot more pax in F who had obviously never flown in F before, asking questions like how much the alcoholic drinks cost.
When we explained the new emphasis on selling UGs over loyalty UGs she said that explained what they were seeing. She said she missed the "regulars" because they were generally better to deal with.
When we explained the new emphasis on selling UGs over loyalty UGs she said that explained what they were seeing. She said she missed the "regulars" because they were generally better to deal with.
Since the merger, I have seen sooooooo many rockie F pax.
Generally these are kids/parents/ who fly once a year.
Guess lots of 1K/Plat/Gold are stuck in coach.
Great work by SMI/J to generate TOD upgrade income while stabbing his loyal customers.
#1778
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: ORD-LAS
Programs: UA MM 1K, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titanium Elite
Posts: 4,419
Yes, I misspoke, but upon further thought, UA's published criteria almost has to be wrong. There is simply no way there are that many Y/B-buying 1P and 2P pax post-3/3 to jump ahead of me (all the Y/B buying 1Ks and all the GS were ahead of me pre-3/3, so that should be unchanged). I am seeing myself on mid-level economy fares anywhere from 10 to 30 on the list at the gate these days, when before I'd either clear 4 hours our or be in the top 2-3 at the gate. I'm quite literally seeing myself 25 places lower on the list on a flight with 160 pax; there's simply no way that is the case if UA's criteria is correct.
I love the confirmed upgrade and UA did not do this before. When I found the rule, i was routing thru IAH.
With the new system I'm 16 for 16. This is buying Y and B fares. I love it
Should they be selling upgrades, no not that cheap, but UA is making money and they wont realize until you stop flying them.
In some cases, that 149.00 one way upgrade is more than a 1K's cheap ticket for 250.00 round trip. UA has told the 1k's to pay or leave but 1Ks continue to fly.
This is the same as E+. They made silvers pay for it, all I heard as a silver(befor my MM). 1K's loved the move now it's biting all 1k's back.
The fact is may Premier and Gold spend more than 1Ks and UA is rewarding people buying Y and b. i take and upgrade away frk
Someone every time I fly.
Again, you want first, pay for first. I spent 16K last year as a Silver but many 1k's said silvers dont deserve E+, fly more. But i spend the same and even more than 1K's and UA is rewarding me with first.
I spen the other half on AA and WN. I fly whatever works better on mg schedule. I used to email UA every receipt from the competition. Did they care? When you add it up, AA and WN get another 16 K from me.
Either way, it sucks, silvers get no E+ and 1K's get no first.
Bring back the 500 miler upgrade way.
At the end all 1K's will have to pay for this benefit that was free in the past
#1779
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not going to read the whole thread, but I got offered at check-in a $4,369.00 upgrade.
Can anyone beat that?
Can anyone beat that?
Last edited by colpuck; Jun 5, 2012 at 4:58 pm
#1780
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: SEA/YVR/BLI
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#1781
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Yes, I misspoke, but upon further thought, UA's published criteria almost has to be wrong. There is simply no way there are that many Y/B-buying 1P and 2P pax post-3/3 to jump ahead of me (all the Y/B buying 1Ks and all the GS were ahead of me pre-3/3, so that should be unchanged). I am seeing myself on mid-level economy fares anywhere from 10 to 30 on the list at the gate these days, when before I'd either clear 4 hours our or be in the top 2-3 at the gate. I'm quite literally seeing myself 25 places lower on the list on a flight with 160 pax; there's simply no way that is the case if UA's criteria is correct.
#1782
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: PHL
Programs: AA EXP MM, HHonors Lifetime Diamond, Marriott Lifetime Ti, UA Silver
Posts: 5,035
If all of the YBM-instant upgrades and the ToD upgrades show up on the upgrade list as cleared that might explain some of the behavior.
#1783
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: DEN
Programs: Recovering after 7 years of UA 1K, Still UA Silver (Which means nothing), Marriott Lifetime Plat Pre
Posts: 1,950
I bought a ToD UFC last week, yep $89 to UG BOS-DEN, and I was not on the upgrade list as cleared. A few weeks ago when I bought a $219 UFC, I was on the upgrade list as cleared. I don't know if its always the case, but it seems odd to me that a fare-difference put me on the list, while a ToD did not.
#1784
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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I'm seeing 30 people ahead of me waiting for the u/g, though, exclusive of those on the cleared list IIRC. I have trouble believing that 1/3 of the elites on the plane are 1P/2P/Plat who bought Y/B fares (since after all before I was behind 4-5 1Ks/GS on Y/B fares on the same flight). I think there's something else wrong.
#1785
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Texas
Programs: UA Platinum, SPG Platinum
Posts: 1
I'm noticing the same thing.
Yesterday i flew LAx-HNL and have had a 98% UDU clearance over 20+ flights in the last 6 months. I sat in the back. My seat mates were two 1K's, a CO Plat and three golds. We were stunned by how we kept dropping on the list even when we were waiting at the gate. Especially since 48 hours prior there were 18 seats open up front.
I'm hoping that this is a glitch as the poster above stated. Otherwise we here will be quickly evaluating the drive to stay brand loyal to the new UA.
Yesterday i flew LAx-HNL and have had a 98% UDU clearance over 20+ flights in the last 6 months. I sat in the back. My seat mates were two 1K's, a CO Plat and three golds. We were stunned by how we kept dropping on the list even when we were waiting at the gate. Especially since 48 hours prior there were 18 seats open up front.
I'm hoping that this is a glitch as the poster above stated. Otherwise we here will be quickly evaluating the drive to stay brand loyal to the new UA.
Has anyone in Houston changed their preferred airline for long domestic trips?