redwoman

I spent about an hour today searching FT trying to figure out if R=1 and RN=1 did that mean there were 2 upgrades available from Econ, or just one? Now i know that there is just one, thank you.

Unless I want Mr. Redwoman (no status at all, he lost it last year) mad at me, I'd better try another itin or put myself on a M-up.

Ohh wait, I forgot that Mr. Redwoman as a "kettle" will get his TOD F cabin buyup for $59 while my GPU and/or CPU gets blown off.

Air Houston

Please PM details to UA Insider so she can investigate. This is a great one to check because you know the precise details for both the Premier passenger and the general member passenger, which is rarely the case.

AA2MM

I really don't know what happened. If your statement is correct, that R1 & RN1 is only one "floating" R...some little miracle has happened because both of us got the upgrade ( both shown as R ).
And many thanks to our fellow FTers...to help us survive these trying times. I think the hold time on the phone is getting much better, I got thru after 3 mins.

dolcean

If p=4 and PN=4 does that mean 4 seats are available in F/C and 4 can be upgraded to FC with TOD upgrade

sbm12

It means that 4 can be upgraded into if you have a B or M (1K/GS only) fare. There may be more for sale overall in the forward cabin.

Think of R as a subset of RN. R should always be less than or equal to R, but that doesn't mean if one is pulled form R that RN will necessarily decrease as well. If they are both at 1 that is the likely scenario, but not necessarily what will happen. Just like a flight that is F3 Z2 could go to F2 Z1 or F3 Z1 when a Z seat is booked.

mmack

So does that mean that if R=1 and RN=1 one may actually be able to clear two upgrades, one from each? That there is more R space "hidden" to fill upgrades from?

sbm12

Yes, it MAY be possible. Like I said, unlikely, but it might be possible that using the one R seat does not empty the one RN seat.

I wouldn't bet on it, but that's the way the buckets are set up as I understand it.

TWAB747nomore

very helpful.....danka^

doctorjosh

I am totally confused by this new system. What inventory should I be looking out for if I just want to buy-up from a discount economy fare (L) into business (Z) on a 3-class international (transpac specifically) flight?

sbm12

If you are looking for a revenue buy-up then you just look at the prices for the two fares and do the math between them. If the other, usually discounted, cash upgrades at OLCI come from a specific fare bucket then it is not one I know.

eflyte

Not quite on-topic, but I will try here before starting a new thread.

I love the ability to be able to search for specific fare codes. However, when booking a round-trip or multi-city itinerary there doesn't seem to be a way to specify different codes for the different segments. For example, let's just say hypothetically that I'm looking to book TATL eastbound in B or Q to minimize my co-pay for UG to R, but am not so concerned about the westbound leg and would like a deeper discount fare there.

Does anyone have any tricks for building a ticket that meets these criteria using the new united.com? I occasionally see these mixed-code itineraries show up in the system where the cheaper codes are sold out on one segment, but am not sure how to 'force' a certain set of codes. Or maybe I just need to call reservations?

Thanks in advance.

astroflyer

I've asked this question as well in another thread. I think the consensus is that there's no way to do it. I wanted to book a round trip where I could upgrade one way, but not the other. I think the only way to do it is to call, although who knows if a former UA agent can construct this--it might take several calls.

sbm12

INP.

You cannot force it unless it happens that those are the fares available. For something that complicated (not that it is incredibly so, but it is a bit more than normal) you have to call it in.

mmack

In the old system if NC=2, then I knew there were 2 seats available for upgrade with SWUs from coach(W) to C.

If in theory R less than or equal to RN is there a way to figure out if there are actually more upgrades available when R=1 RN=1?
Sorry to be so confused.

sbm12

The safest way to approach it is to assume that anything that debits the R bucket will also debit the RN bucket. So RN1/R1 any one upgrade will zero both. You could get lucky and not have that be the case, but I wouldn't bet on it.