Mileage Between Some City Pairs is Different After System Integration-Resolved by UA.
Mar 6, 2012, 12:17 am
#106
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SFO
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All joking aside, this maneuver is really bugging me. I sure hope it is stupidity instead of pettiness.
Mar 6, 2012, 12:33 am
#107
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: SEA/YYZ
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Shannon has been asked a number of times to address this in the systems integration master thread. It hasn't been added to the list of official "cock ups" that the airline is trying to fix. I wouldn't hold my breath until every other more serious operational issue is addressed (and that, it would appear, is going to take quite some time).
Mar 6, 2012, 1:14 am
#108
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SFO and OAK
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Sad about the mileage shrinkage. Even sadder we can't make Seinfeld references (or refer to common industry terms for leakage, theft, reduction in value, "differences", etc). Really?
Mar 6, 2012, 2:16 am
#109
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Seattle, WA (ex Tokyo, JP)
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Not only did I get hit with cities closer together, I also got hit with the cities being closer for flights flown before 3/3, and only 50% bonuses on US flights during the week prior to 3/3 when it should still be 100%... Joy.
Mar 6, 2012, 8:14 am
#110
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: MEM
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Did the merger make airports closer together?
I just had 4 segments from last week post. I flew the same routes the previous week. They are all US flights.
On 2/21 MEM-CLT was 512 miles credited to UA's old site.
On 2/27 MEM-CLT was 510 miles.
On 2/21 CLT-MSP was 930.
On 2/27 CLT-MSP was 929.
The only difference I can see is that the merger finalized in between these posting to my account. The roundtrip is now 6 miles less!
On 2/21 MEM-CLT was 512 miles credited to UA's old site.
On 2/27 MEM-CLT was 510 miles.
On 2/21 CLT-MSP was 930.
On 2/27 CLT-MSP was 929.
The only difference I can see is that the merger finalized in between these posting to my account. The roundtrip is now 6 miles less!
Mar 6, 2012, 8:29 am
#111
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Carolina
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I've noticed that too. My main travel leg is IAH->EWR. Before 3/3 it was 1415 miles, now its 1395.
Here is another change too.
IAH->YYZ - 1280 pre 3/3
IAH->YYZ - 1278 post 3/3
Looks like all the airports inched a littler closer, is this a sign of the world shrinkning?
Here is another change too.
IAH->YYZ - 1280 pre 3/3
IAH->YYZ - 1278 post 3/3
Looks like all the airports inched a littler closer, is this a sign of the world shrinkning?
Mar 6, 2012, 8:37 am
#112
Join Date: Apr 2010
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 697
Based on one data point they just averaged what PMUA used and PMCO used.
PMUA FRA-JNB=5380
PMCO FRA-JNB=5400
Now it is 5390
I am sure it is not as simple as this though.
PMUA FRA-JNB=5380
PMCO FRA-JNB=5400
Now it is 5390
I am sure it is not as simple as this though.
Mar 6, 2012, 8:43 am
#113
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already being discussed here. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...tegration.html
Mar 6, 2012, 9:54 am
#114
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Well I suppose this could be the result of global warming 
The good news is that we can expect to see UA lower their fares and fuel surcharges since they have figured out how to shorten the distances between city pairs. Well maybe not.
And is it just a coincidence they changed one of their PassPlus products from a mileage based fare system to a zone based system in conjunction with the shorter distances?
The good news is that we can expect to see UA lower their fares and fuel surcharges since they have figured out how to shorten the distances between city pairs. Well maybe not.
And is it just a coincidence they changed one of their PassPlus products from a mileage based fare system to a zone based system in conjunction with the shorter distances?
Mar 6, 2012, 9:56 am
#115
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Washington DC
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Speaking of consistency, IAD SEA yesterday afternoon. My boarding pass showed 2297 miles, and the monitors at the gate showed 2306.
Mar 6, 2012, 10:04 am
#116
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Seems like the more popular routes got hit with more shrinkage... I'm sure they'll blame this on a bug though. Probably the reason for putting in a few increases was so they could deflect blame.
Mar 6, 2012, 11:00 am
#117
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I guess they feel that they are so big, the gravetational pull of their hubs has increased! Everthing is getting sucked in!
Mar 6, 2012, 11:05 am
#118
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http://consumerist.com/2012/03/unite...-together.html
And warrenG24, miles *have* posted as of last night and have been turned on. The problem many are experiencing is that city pairs are now closer together ON the posting (as of mine, ORD-SFO posted as 1,839 EQM, instead of 1,846).
We also lost PQMs from all PMUA flights previous to the posting-PQMS that were previously in tact post integration
And warrenG24, miles *have* posted as of last night and have been turned on. The problem many are experiencing is that city pairs are now closer together ON the posting (as of mine, ORD-SFO posted as 1,839 EQM, instead of 1,846).
We also lost PQMs from all PMUA flights previous to the posting-PQMS that were previously in tact post integration
Mar 6, 2012, 11:09 am
#119
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Mar 6, 2012, 11:10 am
#120
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Flew 3/2 before integration and DEN-SJC is now posting 944 instead of 948. This will mean a loss of 432eqms for me a year. I know not a big deal but still not a change I like as I have to already fly over 105 flights a year to hit 1k status